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Title: A number of thingies
Post by: Mad Bomber on December 22, 2005, 11:10:02 pm
Some things I think should be noted/added in the Wiki:

1) The Prom-S is NOT the same cannon as seen in FS1 -- it has 600m more range and is much improved over its Great War progenitor. Something should be in the article to indicate this, and the FS1 GTW-5 Prom oughta have its own article, separate from its FS2 incarnation. Otherwise people will get confused.

2) Though the technology for xasers apparently _did_ exist during the Great War, they were evidently not in production by the time of Operation Templar (mid-2340s), since they are rather conspicuously absent from that campaign. (AFAIK, they were mentioned as "expensive frivolities" at the time.) Just thought that ought to be mentioned -- they weren't churned out the second the GTVA appeared (and definitely not before that).

3) Some discussion on the Terran Blocs might be in order -- speculation at least, inferred from their locations and names (plus what we know from canon). E.G. the Regulus Syndicate. The fact that a large number of people in the Regulan sector were poor and jealous of the Vasudans' recovery (they joined Bosch at the drop of a hat!) infers that perhaps the Syndicate was laden with corruption and/or mismanagement.

4) Any idea why Sirius (and Regulus, for that matter) might be a nominally Terran system *cough*NTF*cough*, even though the Zods are so much closer? I blame the pseudocanon Delta Ser-Sirius node (seen in Clash of the Titans). Assign blame already! :p

5) Perhaps a section for Non-Canon Notes in ship classes. (e.g. "According to Ace's 'Cardinal Spear' campaigns, the GTB Medusa was preceded by the GTB Gorgon class.)
Title: Re: A number of thingies
Post by: Black Wolf on December 22, 2005, 11:28:40 pm
It's a wiki. :p The whole point of such a thing is that you can make changes like this for yourself.
Title: Re: A number of thingies
Post by: Wanderer on December 23, 2005, 03:40:07 am
MB:

1) I asked for proper FS1 (& ST) weapon tables (btw big thanks to Spicious for ST ships.tbl) some time ago in another thread, but none seemed interested in mailing those to me... As i currently do not have FS1 installed (and i do not have ST at all) and my hard disks are about to explode (reinstalling is temporarily impossible) i can not read the FS1 data without some little help.

4) I'm not sure that such non-canon info should be included to canon ship entries as data from different mods is usually different and it might be hard to reach any kind of agreement. Ofcourse if separate non-canon section would be added to end of the ship article in wiki that would clearly indicate which mod is used as the source of the particular info, then it might work.

Perhaps there could be sort of info in this kind of lines at the end of the entry
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<font color=#855545>
==Non-Canon Information==

*The GTB Medusa was preceded by the GTB Gorgon class.
**Source: '''Ace's ''Cardinal Spear''''' -campaing
</font>
Title: Re: A number of thingies
Post by: Spicious on December 23, 2005, 04:34:41 am
1) I asked for proper FS1 (& ST) weapon tables (btw big thanks to Spicious for ST ships.tbl) some time ago in another thread, but none seemed interested in mailing those to me... As i currently do not have FS1 installed (and i do not have ST at all) and my hard disks are about to explode (reinstalling is temporarily impossible) i can not read the FS1 data without some little help.
The ST Weapons table is attached. When did you ask for it?

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Title: Re: A number of thingies
Post by: Wanderer on December 23, 2005, 04:39:59 am
Again, big thanks! It is in this thread (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,36842.25.html)... I was wondering the possible difference between FSPort and FS1 weapons tables.
Title: Re: A number of thingies
Post by: StratComm on December 23, 2005, 11:56:21 am
For future reference, there is no trailing 'g' in "campaign".  It's another common spelling error.
Title: Re: A number of thingies
Post by: Eishtmo on December 27, 2005, 07:41:44 pm
3)  The problem with telling more about them is, well, we don't know anything else about them.  Nothing.  We have some names and can infer locations, but that's about it.  Anything else we put in will be non-canon.

4)  I think Sirius either was originally colonized by Terrans, or given to one of the Terran blocs (Regulus) after the war since Sol went bye-bye.  Why the NTF took it might be strictly for Bosch's purposes (ETAK), regardless of who lived there, if anyone.
Title: Re: A number of thingies
Post by: WMCoolmon on December 27, 2005, 07:47:42 pm
If there is non-canon info in the wiki, it should be clearly denoted with an obvious color. It could make the wiki more informative to modders and people who remember something from a campaign, but are not sure which, but the potential for messing with canon stuff is also there.

Possibly another color could be used to denote information based on conclusions from information in the original campaign. (Say, relative difference between systems based on subspace travel time or somesuch).
Title: Re: A number of thingies
Post by: Black Wolf on December 27, 2005, 09:33:38 pm
In theory, there shouldn't be any non canon stuff in there that isn't separated off by a [non-canon] tag. But, inevitably, it's gotten in there.:(
Title: Re: A number of thingies
Post by: WMCoolmon on December 27, 2005, 09:37:07 pm
Breaking out the rainbow is a good compromise. :D
Title: Re: A number of thingies
Post by: Eishtmo on December 28, 2005, 07:08:15 pm
The rainbow is irritating.  Just seperate them into sections.  First part is pure canon and the second is educated guesses based on physics, known socialogy, history, etc.  Just makes it easier than color coding every other sentence.