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Title: Warzone Re-release
Post by: IceFire on December 14, 2008, 05:36:01 pm
Warzone has been re-released by the FreeSpace Campaign Restoration Project.  A huge thanks to the FreeSpace Campaign Restoration Project for their work on this.  I haven't played through it yet but I'm excited to see what they have done to bring one of my old campaigns back to life with the assistance of the latest in FreeSpace 2 SCP code breakthroughs.

For more information please check out their Warzone release thread (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,58356.0.html).

Although not a direct sequel, Blackwater Operations is related to the Warzone story drawing on a small number of past events as well as notable ships and characters.
Title: Re: Warzone Re-release
Post by: Mobius on December 22, 2008, 11:05:54 am
Maybe this forum should be renamed "Cold Element". All threads relevant to the CE Universe(like the release of Derelict) should then be moved here. This is just a suggestion... I hardly found out what Cold Element really was(despite knowingvery well each and all of the CE campaigns) so I guess how hard it'd be for newcomers and other HLP members to discover the CE Universe and realize that a given number of campaigns, either WIP or released, are part of the same continuity.

:)
Title: Re: Warzone Re-release
Post by: lostllama on December 22, 2008, 11:47:54 am
I'd better get through Warzone soonish before BWO is finished.

I hardly found out what Cold Element really was(despite knowingvery well each and all of the CE campaigns) so I guess how hard it'd be for newcomers and other HLP members to discover the CE Universe and realize that a given number of campaigns, either WIP or released, are part of the same continuity.

:)


Does BWO make any references to events in any other mods/campaigns? I know that Derelict is part of the CE continuity.
Title: Re: Warzone Re-release
Post by: Mobius on December 22, 2008, 11:56:42 am
http://ce.hard-light.net/
Title: Re: Warzone Re-release
Post by: BlackDove on December 22, 2008, 03:13:03 pm
I'd better get through Warzone soonish before BWO is finished.

I hardly found out what Cold Element really was(despite knowingvery well each and all of the CE campaigns) so I guess how hard it'd be for newcomers and other HLP members to discover the CE Universe and realize that a given number of campaigns, either WIP or released, are part of the same continuity.

:)


Does BWO make any references to events in any other mods/campaigns? I know that Derelict is part of the CE continuity.

We've been over this in other threads, but it takes from Warzone, Derelict and Twilight some hints. There is no "real" connection like A > B > C. Like FS, ST, FS2. None of that. But if you've played the other ones, you should get the references.

Also, Cold Element wise, this forum is really a BWO forum, but technically maybe we should look into either creating a Cold Element forum so all Derelict/Warzone/Twilight/Aftermath stuff goes there, or maybe just include it as a subtitle somewhere here.
Title: Re: Warzone Re-release
Post by: lostllama on December 22, 2008, 03:16:17 pm
Ok thanks BlackDove.
Title: Re: Warzone Re-release
Post by: Narvi on December 25, 2008, 12:00:42 pm
Hmmm, anyone know where to get an SCP version of Aftermath? I don't really want to eff around with a retail mod...
Title: Re: Warzone Re-release
Post by: Admiral Nelson on December 25, 2008, 01:03:23 pm
Macfie released a version of Aftermath someplace.  My post New Year project will be a restored/updated Aftermath.  It is still WIP; not ready for release yet.
Title: Re: Warzone Re-release
Post by: SF-Junky on December 27, 2008, 11:22:14 am
It is still WIP; not ready for release yet.
Tell if you need a playtester.
Title: Re: Warzone Re-release
Post by: Narvi on January 04, 2009, 10:11:05 am
Was the Tatenen in this one named after the destroyed corvette in the main FS2 campaign, btw?
Title: Re: Warzone Re-release
Post by: Mobius on January 05, 2009, 11:56:51 am
Probably. :)
Title: Re: Warzone Re-release
Post by: IceFire on January 05, 2009, 05:23:15 pm
Was the Tatenen in this one named after the destroyed corvette in the main FS2 campaign, btw?
Quite by accident actually.  I was going through Egyptian mythological names and that seemed like a good name for a ship.  It wasn't until I was replaying FS2 (after I had named the ship) that I noticed the name being used.  Fortunately for me the GVCv Tatenen was destroyed by the Sathanas.

So...sure...named after it :)
Title: Re: Warzone Re-release
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on January 08, 2009, 01:54:42 am
Well, there was an Orion called the Myrmidon and a fighter class called the Myrmidon, so I don't see anything wrong there. ;)
Title: Re: Warzone Re-release
Post by: Mobius on January 08, 2009, 01:42:21 pm
Speaking of the name Myrmidon, the time gap was considerable, though...the apparent problem is that the GVD Tatenen was already commissioned and active prior to the commission/destruction of the GVCv Tatenen.

But it doesn't matter. :)
Title: Re: Warzone Re-release
Post by: IceFire on January 08, 2009, 06:46:06 pm
Speaking of the name Myrmidon, the time gap was considerable, though...the apparent problem is that the GVD Tatenen was already commissioned and active prior to the commission/destruction of the GVCv Tatenen.

But it doesn't matter. :)

Why would the Tatenen be commissioned before the destruction of the GVCv Tatenen?
Title: Re: Warzone Re-release
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on January 09, 2009, 10:51:52 am
Tatenen's a nice name for a (horizontally-challenged) destroyer. Leave it. :nod:
Title: Re: Warzone Re-release
Post by: Mobius on January 11, 2009, 09:43:38 am
Why would the Tatenen be commissioned before the destruction of the GVCv Tatenen?

It might have been commissioned when there already was a ship named Tatenen(a Sobek), the construction of destroyers takes a while.
Title: Re: Warzone Re-release
Post by: IceFire on January 11, 2009, 10:17:28 am
Why would the Tatenen be commissioned before the destruction of the GVCv Tatenen?

It might have been commissioned when there already was a ship named Tatenen(a Sobek), the construction of destroyers takes a while.
Sure...but they may build the ship and then name it later.  Maybe it was commissioned a month after the old Tatenen's destruction...
Title: Re: Warzone Re-release
Post by: Mobius on January 11, 2009, 10:57:39 am
Err, I don't think they name a ship only after its completion... :nervous: ;)
Title: Re: Warzone Re-release
Post by: Admiral Nelson on January 11, 2009, 11:10:55 am

USS YORKTOWN (CV-10) is a good example.  She was laid down with the name BON HOMME RICHARD, but it was changed to YORKTOWN after the earlier carrier (CV-5) was sunk.  There are many other examples.
Title: Re: Warzone Re-release
Post by: IceFire on January 11, 2009, 12:05:43 pm
Lots of ships have their parts laid down and construction well under way under a number and then are named later.  Or the name is changed as Admiral Nelson pointed out.
Title: Re: Warzone Re-release
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on January 11, 2009, 12:10:12 pm
The Gigantic, for instance, was renamed to Britannic after the sinking of the Titanic.
Title: Re: Warzone Re-release
Post by: Mobius on January 11, 2009, 12:35:14 pm
Does the same principle apply to the FreeSpace Universe?
Title: Re: Warzone Re-release
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on January 11, 2009, 12:48:58 pm
Does the same principle apply to the FreeSpace Universe?

It could, if you perceive it as such. ;)
Title: Re: Warzone Re-release
Post by: Mobius on January 11, 2009, 12:59:48 pm
I don't exclude that many ships have been renamed(I guess the NTC Camisard and the NTCv Jacquerie once had better names) but I find hard to believe that a ship is given a name only after its completion.

De Gustibus... :D
Title: Re: Warzone Re-release
Post by: CaptJosh on January 11, 2009, 03:43:10 pm
A ship is never truly named until christened. The hull may be laid down with a name attached to the construction contract, but until christened, that name is NOT official.
Title: Re: Warzone Re-release
Post by: Droid803 on January 11, 2009, 04:46:35 pm
And even after that, it can still be renamed.
Title: Re: Warzone Re-release
Post by: CaptJosh on January 11, 2009, 07:30:11 pm
Sailors consider that to be bad luck, though.
Title: Re: Warzone Re-release
Post by: eliex on January 12, 2009, 07:13:11 pm
Pirates seem to have no problem with that.  :p
Title: Re: Warzone Re-release
Post by: Mobius on January 13, 2009, 03:33:04 pm
Pirates aren't good guys. :p
Title: Re: Warzone Re-release
Post by: BlackDove on January 13, 2009, 04:35:10 pm
Pirates are always the good guys.
Title: Re: Warzone Re-release
Post by: CaptJosh on January 14, 2009, 10:53:13 am
(http://www.demotivateus.com/posters/pirates-demotivational-poster.jpg)
Title: Re: Warzone Re-release
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on January 14, 2009, 11:08:43 am
It goes without saying that pirates are the good guys. JAD and the 17th century Caribbean are a testament to this. Also:

(http://v4bhlg.blu.livefilestore.com/y1psEZLfO-BM8nUYjD1F7A3sa7SklPbxBYYyYJbU1sTpjjjD0ByfIvmq07Su8Ff5TiwHVZyCPBWNOw/Volition_Bravos_001.png)
Title: Re: Warzone Re-release
Post by: Mobius on January 14, 2009, 01:22:47 pm
Don't confuse pirates with corsairs.
Title: Re: Warzone Re-release
Post by: Getter Robo G on January 18, 2009, 05:00:52 pm
Sorta like the USS San Paulo got renamed to Definat when the namesake got toasted? (DS9)

Seemed a bit selfish, but I guess for morale purposes it served a greater good...