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Title: Am i stupid ? (spoiler)
Post by: Kher on April 01, 2020, 12:01:10 am
Hello, first of all, very good job on your campaign, i have great pleasure to play it.


Spoiler alert now ;)


Now the problem, this mission in space suit, objective : "get to a ship" , very well, rushing to the titan, as espected, he leave in  front of me, and i finally dock on this freighter, and the, debriefing, i click on accept and it say the mission is failure and i can't accept with the triple choice, quit, return to main menu or restart mission ....

do i miss something ? is there a fighter somewhere where i can go in ? i'm a bit lost to be honest.
Title: Re: Am i stupid ? (spoiler)
Post by: Madeye on April 01, 2020, 06:23:46 am
I had the same problem yesterday. After several tries (including cheats) I resigned, got myself killed five times and advanced to the next mission.
Title: Re: Am i stupid ? (spoiler)
Post by: CapellaGoBoom on April 01, 2020, 07:23:55 am
Same here. Prolly a bug. Post a debug in the release thread
Title: Re: Am i stupid ? (spoiler)
Post by: Mito [PL] on April 01, 2020, 09:32:12 am
Are you guys using 1.0.0 version of Aftermath or the recent update?
Title: Re: Am i stupid ? (spoiler)
Post by: Madeye on April 01, 2020, 10:05:58 am
Now the recent one :)
Title: Re: Am i stupid ? (spoiler)
Post by: Mito [PL] on April 01, 2020, 10:17:53 am
I presume this problem is because of some change made after 1.0.0 was released. I think rolling back to 1.0.0 would fix the issue but I recall something about Herkie changing the campaign file name... Which would mean that FSO will treat 1.0.0 and 1.1.0 as separate campaigns and you'd need to start the older version from scratch (but your progress in the new version will be saved, so it's fine).

Question: could you install 1.0.0 and verify that you need to start the campaign over?
Title: Re: Am i stupid ? (spoiler)
Post by: Nightmare on April 01, 2020, 10:40:38 am
The problem seems to be in the campaign file, the entry for the mission is different to the normal ones:

Code: [Select]
$Mission: Act 3-d.fs2
+Flags: 0
+Main Hall: 0
+Formula: ( cond
   ( ( true ) ( next-mission "Act 3-d.fs2" ) )
)

+Mission Loop:
+Formula: ( cond
   (
      ( is-previous-event-true
         "Act 3-d.fs2"
         "Continue"
      )
      ( next-mission "Act 3-e.fs2" )
   )
)

+Level: 17
+Position: 0
Title: Re: Am i stupid ? (spoiler)
Post by: CapellaGoBoom on April 01, 2020, 11:58:52 am
The problem seems to be in the campaign file, the entry for the mission is different to the normal ones:

Code: [Select]
$Mission: Act 3-d.fs2
+Flags: 0
+Main Hall: 0
+Formula: ( cond
   ( ( true ) ( next-mission "Act 3-d.fs2" ) )
)

+Mission Loop:
+Formula: ( cond
   (
      ( is-previous-event-true
         "Act 3-d.fs2"
         "Continue"
      )
      ( next-mission "Act 3-e.fs2" )
   )
)

+Level: 17
+Position: 0

Found another case: the mission pursuing the Anagora (not the actual disable mission) was a failure when it was actually accomplished. This is not just 1 mission I am afraid
Title: Re: Am i stupid ? (spoiler)
Post by: Nightmare on April 01, 2020, 12:18:35 pm
Name of the mission or the mission file (or just the previous mission in techroom as the incomplete won't show up there yet)?
Title: Re: Am i stupid ? (spoiler)
Post by: CapellaGoBoom on April 01, 2020, 12:36:54 pm
Name of the mission or the mission file (or just the previous mission in techroom as the incomplete won't show up there yet)?

"somewhere in the rocks" looking in the techroom
Title: Re: Am i stupid ? (spoiler)
Post by: Nightmare on April 01, 2020, 12:39:21 pm
Yep same issue
Code: [Select]
$Mission: Act 6-e.fs2
+Flags: 0
+Main Hall: 0
+Formula: ( cond
   ( ( true ) ( next-mission "Act 6-e.fs2" ) )
)

+Mission Loop:
+Formula: ( cond
   (
      ( is-previous-event-true
         "Act 6-e.fs2"
         "Continue"
      )
      ( next-mission "Act 6-f.fs2" )
   )
)

+Level: 38
+Position: 0
Title: Re: Am i stupid ? (spoiler)
Post by: Kher on April 01, 2020, 05:18:35 pm
I presume this problem is because of some change made after 1.0.0 was released. I think rolling back to 1.0.0 would fix the issue but I recall something about Herkie changing the campaign file name... Which would mean that FSO will treat 1.0.0 and 1.1.0 as separate campaigns and you'd need to start the older version from scratch (but your progress in the new version will be saved, so it's fine).

Question: could you install 1.0.0 and verify that you need to start the campaign over?

i have take a look at Knossos campaign option, no other versions than 1.1.0 are avaible, so, no possibility to downgrade
Title: Re: Am i stupid ? (spoiler)
Post by: CapellaGoBoom on April 01, 2020, 05:52:03 pm
I presume this problem is because of some change made after 1.0.0 was released. I think rolling back to 1.0.0 would fix the issue but I recall something about Herkie changing the campaign file name... Which would mean that FSO will treat 1.0.0 and 1.1.0 as separate campaigns and you'd need to start the older version from scratch (but your progress in the new version will be saved, so it's fine).

Question: could you install 1.0.0 and verify that you need to start the campaign over?

i have take a look at Knossos campaign option, no other versions than 1.1.0 are avaible, so, no possibility to downgrade

Click on the "details" button of the mod then click on the top left drop-down tab. 1.0.0 should be there. It is for my knossos
Title: Re: Am i stupid ? (spoiler)
Post by: Kher on April 01, 2020, 05:53:39 pm
mine give me only 1.1.0 version, i guess i'll have to wait for the dev to correct this :)
Title: Re: Am i stupid ? (spoiler)
Post by: telaras84 on July 22, 2020, 07:19:19 pm
Does anyone have any workarounds for this?  Was really enjoying the campaign and now I am stuck.  No option for 1.0.0 here in Knossos here either.
Title: Re: Am i stupid ? (spoiler)
Post by: Nightmare on July 22, 2020, 07:22:58 pm
AFAIK not. You can post where you are, possibly you get some help. Alternatively you can just cheat.
Title: Re: Am i stupid ? (spoiler)
Post by: Mito [PL] on July 23, 2020, 02:44:55 am
1.0.0 should be available if you enter the mod details page in the Explore tab and unfold the selection list from the top left.
Title: Re: Am i stupid ? (spoiler)
Post by: telaras84 on July 23, 2020, 07:51:10 pm
Unfortunately there is not an option for 1.0.0



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Title: Re: Am i stupid ? (spoiler)
Post by: tomimaki on July 25, 2020, 04:36:14 pm
Explore tab, not Home.

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Title: Re: Am i stupid ? (spoiler)
Post by: herkie423 on October 09, 2020, 07:55:03 am
It is a bug. A horrible one. I am very sorry for that. It's fixed now. The debrief will have a sad failure music, it's OK. It is intended.

What happen was the Branch SEXP and the Repeat Link SEXP in the mission loop was inverted or in reverse order. My mistake when I was editing things.

For anyone who can edit a campaign file, you can fix this. Just reverse the order. The Branch To SEXP above and place the Repeat Link SEXP below
Title: Re: Am i stupid ? (spoiler)
Post by: herkie423 on October 09, 2020, 08:16:06 am

Found another case: the mission pursuing the Anagora (not the actual disable mission) was a failure when it was actually accomplished. This is not just 1 mission I am afraid

Question. Did you still progress? If so then there is no bug. That mission is really meant to be a failure. Objectives will show incomplete as it actually is. What was accomplished in there were "side missions" which were not even listed in the objectives screen.

But you can actually fail in that mission and will not let you progress if Dr. Hargrove was killed. The Shivan Comms node  "objective" will always be accomplished no matter what.
Title: Re: Am i stupid ? (spoiler)
Post by: herkie423 on October 23, 2020, 06:18:31 am
It's a "loop" bug. It is fixed.
Title: Re: Am i stupid ? (spoiler)
Post by: MarkM84 on November 08, 2020, 10:47:49 am
I have tried the below, but to no avail the version of FRED2 Open that Knossos is using will not save the Campaign File. I attempted the mission 5 or 6 times in a row, each time I was told I had failed, with no skip button available. Is it possible to get the updated VP file which contains the corrected Campaign File, please, so that I may continue this very enjoyable mod.

It is a bug. A horrible one. I am very sorry for that. It's fixed now. The debrief will have a sad failure music, it's OK. It is intended.

What happen was the Branch SEXP and the Repeat Link SEXP in the mission loop was inverted or in reverse order. My mistake when I was editing things.

For anyone who can edit a campaign file, you can fix this. Just reverse the order. The Branch To SEXP above and place the Repeat Link SEXP below
Title: Re: Am i stupid ? (spoiler)
Post by: MarkM84 on November 08, 2020, 11:07:59 am
I have managed to skip the mission. I had to set the difficulty to "Insane" for the Shivans to kill me five times.
Title: Re: Am i stupid ? (spoiler)
Post by: herkie423 on November 12, 2020, 03:49:25 am
This fix now with the October update (not the March update)