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Ancient-Shivan War Issues
Started up Ancient-Shivan War today. On startup, it generates 14 warnings. When restarting Act I mission three (Roadblock), it crashes when going to ship selection again, even after restart of the game. Weapons selection does work. Ship selection did work however, when playing the mission for the first time. Does no let me reproduce said issue in "Fast Debug". Since I like to play on Insane, it would nice to be able to change the loadout  :)

After crashing: attachment 1

When trying to run debug: attachment 2 (does not run the game)

Log: https://fsnebula.org/log/5e5d8709cb0d3321adc9860d

Any ideas? Is the mod broken on current builds? Or am I doing something wrong?

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« Last Edit: March 02, 2020, 04:24:52 pm by MrTealTwo »

 

Offline 0rph3u5

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Re: Ancient-Shivan War Issues
The error source appears to be in the MediaVPs dependency.

Anyone with knowledge around if the 3.6.12 dependency is correct? - ASW is older so that is an older version of the MVPs fits, but I can't tell if 3.6.12 is the correct one.
"When you work with water, you have to know and respect it. When you labour to subdue it, you have to understand that one day it may rise up and turn all your labours into nothing. For what is water, which seeks to make all things level, which has no taste or colour of its own, but a liquid form of Nothing?" - Graham Swift, Waterland

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"I am Curiosity, and I've always wondered what would become of you, here at the end of the world." - The Guide/The Curious Other, Othercide

"As you sought to steal a kingdom for yourself, so must you do again, a thousand times over. For a theft, a true theft, must be practiced to be earned." - The terms of Nyrissa's curse, Pathfinder: Kingmaker

"...because they are not Dragons."

 

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Re: Ancient-Shivan War Issues
Okay - found the problem:
The issue is that the ASW overrides the sounds.tbl in the MVPs 3.6.12 with its own. This breaks the referrences for the sounds assoicated with the rotation of multipart turrets.

Give me a moment to put together a potential fix.
"When you work with water, you have to know and respect it. When you labour to subdue it, you have to understand that one day it may rise up and turn all your labours into nothing. For what is water, which seeks to make all things level, which has no taste or colour of its own, but a liquid form of Nothing?" - Graham Swift, Waterland

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"I am Curiosity, and I've always wondered what would become of you, here at the end of the world." - The Guide/The Curious Other, Othercide

"As you sought to steal a kingdom for yourself, so must you do again, a thousand times over. For a theft, a true theft, must be practiced to be earned." - The terms of Nyrissa's curse, Pathfinder: Kingmaker

"...because they are not Dragons."

 

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Re: Ancient-Shivan War Issues
Table in the attachment at least does away with the error message of the OP. Booting up a mission also seems unaffected by the OP error now (but the Debug Build shows a bunch of other errors - which really don't affect you as player; the modpack just seems to be a bit messy)

It goes into a data/tables director, you will have to create yourself inside the ASW mod's folder.

[attachment eaten by a Shivan]
"When you work with water, you have to know and respect it. When you labour to subdue it, you have to understand that one day it may rise up and turn all your labours into nothing. For what is water, which seeks to make all things level, which has no taste or colour of its own, but a liquid form of Nothing?" - Graham Swift, Waterland

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"I am Curiosity, and I've always wondered what would become of you, here at the end of the world." - The Guide/The Curious Other, Othercide

"As you sought to steal a kingdom for yourself, so must you do again, a thousand times over. For a theft, a true theft, must be practiced to be earned." - The terms of Nyrissa's curse, Pathfinder: Kingmaker

"...because they are not Dragons."

 
Re: Ancient-Shivan War Issues
Thank you for the fix. I put it in the mod folder as instructed. Did manage to complete the mission with my chosen loadout and the rest of the mod on insane. however. I was slightly surprised that it wasn't more difficult, some missions took 10+ attempts, but it was quite beatable.

 

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Re: Ancient-Shivan War Issues
I think, the relative easy difficulty was a design choice to keept it moving as a game - probably also a narrative choice depending on how the end would have played out. The Ancient-Shivan War is conceptually difficult to depict in a game when casting the player in the role of an Ancient - you have to find ways how to keep the player engaged through a string of losses with no chance of a comeback.
There are ways to do it*, and it is a shame that we will never find out what the ultimate solution of the ASW team would have been (its one thing to read the pre-prouction ideas, another to see them realized).

* I gave it a try
"When you work with water, you have to know and respect it. When you labour to subdue it, you have to understand that one day it may rise up and turn all your labours into nothing. For what is water, which seeks to make all things level, which has no taste or colour of its own, but a liquid form of Nothing?" - Graham Swift, Waterland

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"I am Curiosity, and I've always wondered what would become of you, here at the end of the world." - The Guide/The Curious Other, Othercide

"As you sought to steal a kingdom for yourself, so must you do again, a thousand times over. For a theft, a true theft, must be practiced to be earned." - The terms of Nyrissa's curse, Pathfinder: Kingmaker

"...because they are not Dragons."

 

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Re: Ancient-Shivan War Issues
It's always a shame to see a mod go unfinished. (I'm looking at you, too BP, UWar/TVWP, Frontlines).

I can also think of a mod that has the player go through a near constant string of losses...  :nervous:
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Re: Ancient-Shivan War Issues
I can also think of a mod that has the player go through a near constant string of losses...  :nervous:

Interesting take on a story indeed, would certainly be something different :nod:

 

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Re: Ancient-Shivan War Issues
Interesting take on a story indeed, would certainly be something different :nod:

Pretty sure he means BtA dude.

 

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Re: Ancient-Shivan War Issues
I have dev access to ASW on Knossos, so I just updated it to fix the reported issues and make compatible with MediaVPs 4.2.x.
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