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Offline Mobius

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Re: important wiki matter: please post thoughts
It's not useful, it doesn't add anything to the VC section of that page, it serves no real purpose, I don't see why it should be added in the first place, etc., should I carry on?

Now, let me ask one question: do you at least realize that people occasionally use the Wiki for its intended purpose, which is learning information concerning the official and the unofficial FreeSpace universe? Are you somehow convinced it's a corner where people can do whatever they want, and kind of mess up with the main purpose of a Wiki?

EDIT: by the way, TopAce's edits on the GTC Aeolus' article are being undone back and forth. Someone may find this "game of edits" funny, I don't think it is.
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Re: important wiki matter: please post thoughts
Now, let me ask one question: do you at least realize that people occasionally use the Wiki for its intended purpose, which is learning information concerning the official and the unofficial FreeSpace universe? Are you somehow convinced it's a corner where people can do whatever they want, and kind of mess up with the main purpose of a Wiki?

Oh, I do realize that completely.

However, I also realize that allowing the presence of some jokes does not stand in the way of that.
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Re: important wiki matter: please post thoughts
No offense to anyone but I think the understandability of a Veteran Comment to all humans with a basic knowledge of English and FreeSpace lore should take precedence over the will to inject some funny quote most people will not understand.

It might be worth a general rule that if a comment is more entertaining than informative on uses of the ship, it should be shuffled to the bottom of the veteran comments to reduce any possible negative impact to the utility of that section, and it shouldn't be mislead either.

Currently the veteran comments for the Aeolus are 680 words long, 17 of which are joke and all the way at the bottom. If someone is reading them to research the uses and characteristics of the ship this should not be a noteworthy impediment, unless reading references they don't get or wordplay they don't appreciate makes their entire brain lock up.
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Re: important wiki matter: please post thoughts
You could argue that "Little in the middle but she's got much flak" is a good way of remembering the properties of that particular ship.

So the comment is actually useful.
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Re: important wiki matter: please post thoughts
Great! Battuta has just removed the explanatory remarks. Apparently, he's not open to compromises.

[EDIT] JSNerds's paraphrased solution, too.
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Re: important wiki matter: please post thoughts
You should show him who's boss!

 
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Re: important wiki matter: please post thoughts
You should show him who's boss!

Then will come allegations of abusing my powers and I don't need that.

I just want this thing over with. I'm with Mobius in regards to making sure everyone understands the reference. Battuta offered his own wording for the explanation in his edit commentary, which he removed now. Copying it (from the non-mainspace to the mainspace) was probably wrong.
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Re: important wiki matter: please post thoughts
I think the endless edit war is a bit of harmless fun that adds character to the page and the wiki. It's not on every line of every page, it's one line on one page. Some people are taking this way too seriously.
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Re: important wiki matter: please post thoughts
I just want this thing over with.

Honest question: are you that unhappy with turning a blind eye to this one line on one page?
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Re: important wiki matter: please post thoughts
I approve of "Little in the middle but she's got much flak".
Do not approve of adding the explanation for the reference, since the above expression in of itself is entirely an accurate description of the Aeolus.
I don't know about whole becky and the strut thing though. It's far less informative and I don't really think it needs to be there. Making the joke longer (or explaining it) takes away from its succinctness which makes it good in the first place. I feel it's bloat that doesn't need to be there, but hey what do I know?
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Re: important wiki matter: please post thoughts
I have only recently learned that the line refers to a song and I thought the line was amazing before I knew that.

 
Re: important wiki matter: please post thoughts
Having read all the other veteran comments and having found them entirely contradictory, I propose we wipe the entirety of the Veteran Comments and only leave the "little in the middle but she got much flak", which is actually the most accurate line in the entire section.

 
Re: important wiki matter: please post thoughts
Like seriously all these VCs are awful
They're all talking about the dizzying flak array
yet the cruiser is outmatched by RockEye turret sniping.

 

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Re: important wiki matter: please post thoughts
I just want this thing over with.

Honest question: are you that unhappy with turning a blind eye to this one line on one page?

Considering how much this has dragged on, yes, I'm indifferent to the outcome. I suggested a compromise, and it was rejected. It's obvious Batt won't give up and neither will the opposition.
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Re: important wiki matter: please post thoughts

Why does it say 'post empty'

 

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Re: important wiki matter: please post thoughts
In all seriousness, i have no problem with "little in the middle but she got much flak". I just think the oblique version is funnier, and will probably wait 2 weeks for the situation to calm down and everyone to forget about it before I edit it back in, if I don't forget about it myself. It's a harmless joke on a wiki page.

In not-so-seriousness,"little in the middle but she got much flak" is completely unacceptable and I will fight you to the death over this.
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