[Kazan]

http://www.alternet.org/story/44254/

[Colonol Dekker]

My gosh, don't listen Kazan,  It's not worth it............

[redmenace]

Me thinks Kazan is worried!
You and your new wife better start having children and raising them in the Humanist Traditon before you are overrun!

[Colonol Dekker]

Protect your longbow..........

[Unknown Target]

LMAO! Haha, that's great. I'd love to see all the retarded inbred "soldiers of God" march out to try and conquer the world some day

[redmenace]

Did the article say anything about Inbreding?
But, seriously, these people are a minority of a minority.

[Unknown Target]

The cliche of the super christian southerner = inbreeding. Not sure if this is in the south tho, it just felt appropriate to say

[redmenace]

Yeah, my guess is that places this crazy are reserved for the midwest, Montana and Alaska.

[Colonol Dekker]

I thought that church was NYC, nbut i may have missed it.

In any case, YAY aethiests ie-me !!

[redmenace]

Likley western NY if anywhere. Besides who would ever want to raise 13 Children in NYC. Cost of living alone...

[Kazan]

But, seriously, these people are a minority of a minority.

right now they are... but they're breeding EN MASSE

and how many of these people are going onto government aid because their religion demands they breed like rabbits? i don't want my ****ing taxes for welfare going to people who WERE irresponsible, knowingly, because of their ****ing scum-sucking religion

[redmenace]

Are these people on welfare? Easier solution would be to get rid of welfare all together.

[Kazan]

Are these people on welfare?

that's what i was asking

Easier solution would be to get rid of welfare all together.

no it wouldn't.. omg that was an ignorant statement.. dude.. seriously... cornhole + shut

ever heard of opportunity cost? this is something akin to it - the costs of NOT having a welfare system far exceed the costs of running one.  The only difference is you have concrete numbers for the later and the former is all indirect costs (lost productivity, increased crime, decreased health -> increased health care costs, etc)

the vast majority of welfare recipients are on it for one short (<6 month) stint in their entire life - which shows the program is doing exactly what it was meant to do. 

my wife's mother was on welfare for 3 months - after her scum-sucking first husband ran off with another woman and left her pregnant with blair and caring for blair's older sister paige.  She was on it once, for 3 months.  That help enabled her to stablize and get a job - she has more than paid for her 3 months in taxes from having a job*.  Without that helping hand acquiring a job would be next to impossible because having a house to live, and food to eat, wouldn't have been possible.


Please, know what the **** you're talking about before you make naive Libertarian idiotic comments.

TAKE A US HISTORY COURSE!

* She's in management for warehousing and product acquisition for one of the largest ski resorts in the eastern US

[Colonol Dekker]

If the UK dropped welfare, then the influx of external populace would drop, i can tell you that much...

[redmenace]

Last part was more or less a joke, Like me saying something along the lines of let them die then and decrease the surplus population. I was not being serious.

But I think the people pointing to polygamists are trying to extrapulate the same idea these people will have to fall back on welfare etc. Having 6 kids is not an issue. And actually, from a efficiency stand point, they are cheaper by the dozen.

[Kazan]

i didn't say they _would_ neccessarily, i said if there _were_ i would be pissed.  There is a difference.

[redmenace]

I was refering to people commenting on the article. I am not sure if that is where your welfare concern came from necessarily, or if it was an unprovoke concern.

[Kazan]

i didn't get all the way throught the article, let alone to the comments - i have a strong dislike of abusers of government assistance systems because they deny people who legitimately fell onto hard times, rather then plowed head first into them knowingly, the assistance they need

[Colonol Dekker]

And actually, from a efficiency stand point, they are cheaper by the dozen.

Muahahah, no they're not, no kid of mine is getting hand me down crap. They'd never make it through primary school in one piece.

[Kazan]

And actually, from a efficiency stand point, they are cheaper by the dozen.

Muahahah, no they're not, no kid of mine is getting hand me down crap. They'd never make it through primary school in one piece.

Another Weasley!