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Title: Help with the graphics "Expert needed"
Post by: Vic-Viper.v1 on February 25, 2018, 02:58:44 pm
Okay  so this is more of a help with question then a Issue question i just dont know where to flag thoes peeps that would know how to do this

So for Years now I've been trying to Maximise the Graphics in the Freespace Open version I have a few things
In this video, i see the guy got it looking really pretty  and fantastic looking I have contacted the guy a few times over the years and he says that he can't remember the Strings he put in to get this level of detail
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXF2uHPiZoo&t=1s
Is there anyone on thsi forum thats willing to work with me to try and get this kind of detail, or even better if possible

Also, i have encountered some errors while trying to use "fs2_open_3_8_0_x64_SSE2"  it keeps telling me I have missing files
avcodec-57.dll
avformat-57.dll
avutil-55.dll
And am forced to use "fs2_open_3_7_4_RC1_SSE2"

So yeah , if there is anyone that can assist me in this that would greatly help for i want to make some updated FreeSpace Open trailers.
 :banghead:
Title: Re: Help with the graphics "Expert needed"
Post by: Spoon on February 25, 2018, 11:53:20 pm
avcodec-57.dll
avformat-57.dll
avutil-55.dll
All should be included in the 3_8_0 package, they just need to be extracted to your freespace folder. If for some reason they aren't in there, download one of the latest nightly builds, and extract them from there.
Title: Re: Help with the graphics "Expert needed"
Post by: Vic-Viper.v1 on February 26, 2018, 06:08:11 pm
The nightly builds? where to i get that from?
Title: Re: Help with the graphics "Expert needed"
Post by: ngld on February 26, 2018, 06:15:22 pm
They're regularly posted in this board (https://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?board=173.0).
Title: Re: Help with the graphics "Expert needed"
Post by: Vic-Viper.v1 on February 26, 2018, 07:05:57 pm
Could that be the issue with my graphics?

This is currently what it looks like on my computer :
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/233289478


But what I want it to look like is this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXF2uHPiZoo&t
Title: Re: Help with the graphics "Expert needed"
Post by: m!m on February 26, 2018, 10:47:42 pm
As far as I know, your second link is from an earlier version of BP which used custom shaders to achieve that high reflective metal look. The newest version of the engine uses a different way of rendering the surface of ships so those shaders will not work anymore.

So, to answer your original question: No, it is not possible to make the game look like the video anymore without redoing the textures of the ships BP uses.
Title: Re: Help with the graphics "Expert needed"
Post by: Novachen on February 26, 2018, 10:50:10 pm
Of course it is possible... the older builds as well the older Blueplanet2 packages are still available on the web ;)
Title: Re: Help with the graphics "Expert needed"
Post by: The E on February 27, 2018, 02:19:05 am
And you really, REALLY should not use them. For one, I am pretty sure that BP as currently released won't work with them.

Also, just for the record, this is what BP actually looks like these days, running on current builds and with a little tbl file that reenables glowpoint lighting:
Title: Re: Help with the graphics "Expert needed"
Post by: Vic-Viper.v1 on February 27, 2018, 07:09:19 am
I wonder why mine looks Different
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/233297661

it doesn't have  some of the effects, but i am now using the 2014 vp's  and the 3.8 fs
Title: Re: Help with the graphics "Expert needed"
Post by: The E on February 27, 2018, 07:37:09 am
I wonder why mine looks Different

Several reasons.

1: I am using a nightly build. We've made a few subtle lighting changes in those
2: I am using custom lighting settings. The following commandline parameters enable them:
Code: [Select]
-ambient_factor 35 -spec_point 1.2 -spec_static 1.5 -spec_tube 1.5 (you should play around with these values to find ones you like)
3: I am using the -no_emissive_light commandline parameter
4: I am using the following custom table to enable glowpoints to cast light:
Code: [Select]
#Ship Classes

$Name: GTF Aurora
    +nocreate
$Glowpoint overrides: ( "red_glow_10:1,2" )

$Name: GTF Atalanta
    +nocreate
$Glowpoint overrides: ("blue_glow4_small_40:1" )

$Name: GTF Nyx
    +nocreate
$Glowpoint overrides: ( "blue_glow4_small_30:1" "red_glow_20:2" "green_glow_20:3" )

$Name: GTF Draco
    +nocreate
$Glowpoint overrides: ( "blue_glow4_small_20:1" "red_glow_20:2" "green_glow_20:3" "red_glow_20:4" )

$Name: GTB Rhea
    +nocreate
$Glowpoint overrides: ( "red_glow_20:1" "green_glow_20:2" "yellow_glow_30:3" )

$Name: GTF Seminole
    +nocreate
$Glowpoint overrides: ( "red_glow_15:1,2" "yellow_glow_15:3" "blue_glow4_small_15:4" )

$Name: GTF Cherokee
    +nocreate
$Glowpoint overrides: ( "green_glow_15:1" "red_glow_15:2,4,5" "blue_glow4_small_15:3" )

$Name: GTB Yurok
    +nocreate
$Glowpoint overrides: ( "red_glow_20:1-3,7" "blue_glow4_small_15:4" "green_glow_15:5" "white_glow:6" )

$Name: GTB Navajo
    +nocreate
$Glowpoint overrides: ( "green_glow_15:1,3,5" "blue_glow4_small_15:2" "red_glow_15:4,6" )

$Name: GTD Carthage
    +nocreate
$Glowpoint overrides: ( "white_glow_20:1-4" "red_glow_20:5-7" "yellow_glow_30:8" "blue_glow4_small_40:9-22" )

$Name: GTI Asteria
    +nocreate
$Glowpoint overrides: ( "yellow_glow_40:1" "white_glow_20:2,3" )

$Name: GTCv Chimera
    +nocreate
$Glowpoint overrides: ( "teal_glow_20:1" "blue_glow4_small_30:2" "red_glow_20:3,4" )

$Name: GTCv Bellerophon
    +nocreate
$Glowpoint overrides: ( "teal_glow_20:1,2" "blue_glow4_small_30:3" "red_glow_20:4,5" )

$Name: GTCv Diomedes
    +nocreate
$Glowpoint overrides: ( "blue_glow4_small_40:1" "red_glow_40:2" "teal_glow_30:3,4" "white_glow_nopoint:5" )

$Name: Orion Refit
    +nocreate
$Glowpoint overrides: ( "white_glow_15:1-4" "red_glow_30:5-7" "yellow_glow_30:8" "blue_glow4_small_30:9-22" )

$Name: UEF Uhlan
    +nocreate
$Glowpoint overrides: ( "teal_glow_20:1" "red_glow_20:2,3" "green_glow_20:4" )

$Name: UEF Kentauroi
    +nocreate
$Glowpoint overrides: ( "green_glow_20:1,5,6" "red_glow_20:2-4" )

$Name:                          UEF Uriel
    +nocreate
$Glowpoint overrides: ( "teal_glow_10:1" "red_glow:2,3" "white_glow_10:4" "red_glow_10:5" "green_glow_10:6")

$Name: UEF Izra'il
    +nocreate
$Glowpoint overrides: ( "green_glow_20:1" "red_glow_20:2-4" )

$Name: UEB Vajradhara
    +nocreate
$Glowpoint overrides: ( "green_glow_20:1" "red_glow_20:2-6" )

$Name: UEFg Karuna
    +nocreate
$Glowpoint overrides: ( "red_glow_20:1-3" "red_glow_10:7,9" "yellow_glow_20:4" "blue_glow4_small_10:5,6,10-15" "green_glow:8" "engine_uef:16-19")

$Name: UEFg Narayana
    +nocreate
$Glowpoint overrides: ( "blue_glow4_small_30:1,2,9-12" "red_glow_15:3,5-7" "yellow_glow_10:4,13-16" "green_glow_15:8" "engine_uef:17-19" )

$Name: UEFg Narayana#Prefit
    +nocreate
$Glowpoint overrides: ( "blue_glow4_small_20:1,2,8-11,16-27" "red_glow_15:3,5,6" "yellow_glow_10:4,12-15" "green_glow_15:7" "engine_uef:28-30" )

$Name: UED Solaris
    +nocreate
$Glowpoint overrides: ( "red_glow:1,2" "blue_glow4_small:3,4,6-25" "green_glow:5,26-40,42" "yellow_glow:43,44" "engine_uef:45-47")

$Name: UEFg Karuna#Player
    +nocreate
$Glowpoint overrides: ( "red_glow_20:1-3" "red_glow_10:7,9" "yellow_glow_20:4" "blue_glow4_small_10:5,6,10-15" "green_glow:8" "engine_uef:16-19")

$Name: UED Solaris#Toutatis
    +nocreate
$Glowpoint overrides: ( "red_glow:1,2,35" "blue_glow4_small:3,4,6-25" "green_glow:5,26-34,26" "yellow_glow:37" "engine_uef:38-40")

$Name: UEC Sanctus
    +nocreate
$Glowpoint overrides: ( "yellow_glow_10:1,5-8" "red_glow:2,3,9-11" "blue_glow4_small_20:4" "green_glow:12" )
#End
Save this file as "bp-glowpoint-shp.tbm" in <FS2 directory>\Blue Planet Complete\data\tables
Title: Re: Help with the graphics "Expert needed"
Post by: Vic-Viper.v1 on February 27, 2018, 08:13:29 am
ah okay ill give that a shot, Yeah I'm using the latest Nightly as well
Thank you for the help I greatly appreciate it
Title: Re: Help with the graphics "Expert needed"
Post by: Vic-Viper.v1 on February 27, 2018, 08:48:40 am
Hey "The E" what are you using in "Current command line" And "Custom Command line"  your video seems rather smooth I think I have something running that's bogging down my Freespace open. I have more than enough graphical mussel but it seems to produce low frames.
Title: Re: Help with the graphics "Expert needed"
Post by: The E on February 27, 2018, 09:33:10 am
I've posted the relevant parts of my custom commandline under point 2 above. The only non-custom commandline parameter I'm using that's relevant to the overall look is -no_emissive_light, which is listed in the launcher under Graphics as "Disable emissive light from ships".

I would also recommend disabling both "Framebuffer shockwaves" and "Framebuffer Thrusters"; those are rather expensive effects.

As for performance: I am running FSO at 3440x1440 on a GTX 1070.
Title: Re: Help with the graphics "Expert needed"
Post by: Vic-Viper.v1 on February 27, 2018, 06:10:02 pm
Ah  thank you, yes I shall disable "Framebuffer shockwaves" and "Framebuffer Thrusters"
Title: Re: Help with the graphics "Expert needed"
Post by: AdmiralRalwood on February 28, 2018, 02:28:37 pm
"More than enough graphical muscle" is also a rather vague assessment, especially when you're running at 4k.