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General FreeSpace => FreeSpace & FreeSpace Open Support => Topic started by: Bertuccio on January 19, 2008, 09:40:28 pm

Title: Cannot complete Derelict mission "Acceptable Losses"
Post by: Bertuccio on January 19, 2008, 09:40:28 pm
The mission Acceptable Losses in the Derelict campaign seems to be missing an event trigger that will not let me pass the mission.

I have tried:
Simply failing 5 times but the option to skip the mission does not appear.
Using cheats to set all goals as true.
Modifying the mission file in FRED, but it doesn't seem to use the newly saved mission.
Modifying the campaign file to set the starting mission, but FRED won't let me open the file(I did hit shift-C first)
Replacing the mission with another mission, creating a new VP and replacing the old one. This resulted in the game no longer working no matter what I did, even deselecting the mod in the launcher failed to fix it.

Sooo, I am now reinstalling FS2 SCP and was hoping someone had some solutions as to how to get around this.
My build is 3.6.9.

Thanks
Title: Re: Cannot complete Derelict mission "Acceptable Losses"
Post by: Jeff Vader on January 20, 2008, 03:50:44 am
What mission was this, actually? I think I'll download Derelict again and take a look. In any case, I'd guess that the problem lies in the Derelict vp rather than your FSO install.

But uno momento. I'll check it out to see if I might come up with an explanation. BRB.

Edit: Nope, can't tell what's happening at your end. Other than the possibility of a corrupt Derelict vp. Try to redownload it.
Title: Re: Cannot complete Derelict mission "Acceptable Losses"
Post by: Bertuccio on January 20, 2008, 10:40:10 am
I've got a new VP now, but I don't know how to get back to that level.  Other than doing the 5 times skip thing all the way back is there a way to get back to a level?
Title: Re: Cannot complete Derelict mission "Acceptable Losses"
Post by: Jeff Vader on January 20, 2008, 10:43:42 am
Two, actually. Either do a modified version of the campaign file so that the campaign starts from a certain mission, or do the rather annoying thing and start playing the missions in the Mission simulator. That is, open the Mission simulator and hit Ctrl + Shift + S.
Title: Re: Cannot complete Derelict mission "Acceptable Losses"
Post by: Bertuccio on January 20, 2008, 12:38:09 pm
I get an error when trying to open the Derelict.fc2 in FRED.  I hit shift-c.  Go to open, select the file and get the message "Couldn't open campaign file!".

I used qvp to extract the .fc2 file from the DerelictSCP.vp


Incidentally, I also figured out what the original problem with the mission was.

Some of the newer models and textures are saved in a strange format.  The game still runs normally but the models don't appear.  Without the model you can't actually damage the ship (but you can crash into it oddly enough).  Since the mission depends on a certain ship being destroyed the trigger is never activated.  Disabling all .vps fixed it.
Title: Re: Cannot complete Derelict mission "Acceptable Losses"
Post by: Jeff Vader on January 20, 2008, 12:46:09 pm
I get an error when trying to open the Derelict.fc2 in FRED.  I hit shift-c.  Go to open, select the file and get the message "Couldn't open campaign file!".

I used qvp to extract the .fc2 file from the DerelictSCP.vp
You could have used Notepad for editing the campaign file, like real men.

Quote from: Bertuccio
Incidentally, I also figured out what the original problem with the mission was.

Some of the newer models and textures are saved in a strange format.  The game still runs normally but the models don't appear.  Without the model you can't actually damage the ship (but you can crash into it oddly enough).  Since the mission depends on a certain ship being destroyed the trigger is never activated.  Disabling all .vps fixed it.
Wait wait wait. Let's revise a few things now that I thought of them.

1. Are you playing in OpenGL?
2. If yes, have you also ticked on the Use jpg/tga textures flag from the Launcher's Features tab?

Many ships use the aforementioned textures and if you have that option off, the ships are invisible, partially or completely.
Title: Re: Cannot complete Derelict mission "Acceptable Losses"
Post by: Bertuccio on January 20, 2008, 01:20:49 pm
Yes I'm using openGL, yes the jpg/tga setting is enabled.  I am using an old card and the game uses some wierd format, I don't have this problem with anything else.  There's no way to truly fix it from my end.

I didn't realize the fc2 files were in plain text :)  But I am not sure what I need to change.  Is it as simple as just changing the first line that says "$Mission BLAH" to "$Mission THEMISSIONIWANT" ?