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Offline colecampbell666

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Re: Problem with 3.6.10 and 3.6.9
So refresh my memory, what's the current issue?
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Re: Problem with 3.6.10 and 3.6.9
The crash on the release version of FSO. I supose the problem is on eff animations which use too much processing power I don't have.

I had the idea to convert eff's into anis but first I need all the animation frames paletted with the same palette. Its a hard work to do by hand, so I need a batch program that could calculate the best palette in a series of files and apply it to them.

I'm still working on the mediavps. Fps are acceptable, until one of those animations wants to display, and the counter falls to 5 and below.
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Re: Problem with 3.6.10 and 3.6.9
Well I think that your PC is just too old. I'd stick to playing sans MVPs, or convert them as you say.
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Re: Problem with 3.6.10 and 3.6.9
I've already done the eff conversion using Bright 1.83 to palette all animation bmps into pcxs using the same palette on all.

Then using volition's AC Ani converter, I converted them into anis.

Only a little speed up. I really don't know what makes it slow down, but i think they re the jpgs.
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Re: Problem with 3.6.10 and 3.6.9
Hi guys, I decided to buy some other video card, and I'm asking for advice here:

I was suggested a nVidia mx400 (PCI slot not express) 64 mb, ~ 300 mhz RAMDAC

However I'm a little skeptical since it 'only' doubles my current onboard video memory, yeah I know that memory doesn't makes the difference, but strange feeling.

I also seen better nvidia's (5000 series, 128 & 256 mb) with the common PCI slot, however they seem to work only on newer mobo's, strange since they are not PCI-E.

Is that one alright or do you suggest any better option?
Also, remember I don't have PCI-E nor even AGP ports, for further info, my mobo is an AOpen Mx3W-Pro
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Re: Problem with 3.6.10 and 3.6.9
I hope you're not paying more than like, 5 or 10 bucks for that, or even better, just taking it off someone's hands for them so they don't have to throw it away.

A Geforce 5xxx series is old itself, it should work on old motherboards.  They're from like, 2003.

I have an FX 5200 as my spare card at work, it's not a bad little card.  Runs FS fairly well, might even do GLSL.

Even if the dedicated card had the same amount of memory as your onboard card uses, it'd be better, because then you can give that memory back to your PC to use for other things.  Onboard cards just use system ram, they don't have any of their own.  And 64 is far better than 32, and memory does often make a huge difference, especially on older hardware.  It's to the point that FSO could definitely use the extra 32 megs.

I'd go with the 5xxx series Geforce if you can get one for ~$20 or less.
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Re: Problem with 3.6.10 and 3.6.9
Unfortunately not. Its a 5200 FX with 128mb, like the one you have, but it's at $90!! Quite expensive for being old technology, I'm not going to spend like that on an old machine, it's nonsense.
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Re: Problem with 3.6.10 and 3.6.9
You can actually find newer cards in PCI format. I believe eVGA has an 8400 PCI card (unless they seriously typo'd, but then I have to wonder why it's on the same page as n\the PCI-E version)
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Re: Problem with 3.6.10 and 3.6.9
The FX 5200 is all over eBay for $20 to $30.  Don't know where you're getting charged that much for it but unless it's brand new in box they're totally screwing you, and even then it shouldn't be more than $40, maybe $50 in a brick and mortar store with a guarantee.
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Re: Problem with 3.6.10 and 3.6.9
It's from Jaton.... which brand has them cheaper?
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Re: Problem with 3.6.10 and 3.6.9
I don't know about a specific brand, or whether you'd want to get one on eBay, but that's where I get that kind of hardware these days.
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Re: Problem with 3.6.10 and 3.6.9
I have found the following (all are pci) but I don't know which should go with my computer, because of compatibility with P3 processors:

• nVidia GeForce FX5500 256 MB
• nVidia GeForce MX4000 OEM 128 MB                 <- Four Thousand (4000)
• nVidia GeForce 2 MX 400 Widescreen 64 MB      <- Four Hundreed (400)
• nVidia M64 Tnt2 32 MB

Those aclarations are simply to show I didn't typo'd the numbers, because of its similarity.

In case more than one goes with my cpu, which is the best?

Thanks in advance.
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Re: Problem with 3.6.10 and 3.6.9
I haven't read over the whole thread, but is this really going to help him run the MVPs?

Isn't his hardware obsolete enough that buying a slightly less obsolete graphics card might just be throwing good money after bad?

 

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Re: Problem with 3.6.10 and 3.6.9
5500 all the way.

I haven't read over the whole thread, but is this really going to help him run the MVPs?

Isn't his hardware obsolete enough that buying a slightly less obsolete graphics card might just be throwing good money after bad?
He has an Intel GPU, so anything's better.
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Re: Problem with 3.6.10 and 3.6.9
Yeah the 5500 would be pretty decent probably.
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Well, I didn't updated the video card yet, but I experimented more with FS2Open.

Last days I paletised (mispelled?) mediavps maps and effects into 8-bit PCX's, I got 1700+ graphics files into ~100 different palettes, they don't look bad, thrust me.

Well, the following annoying things happened:

- Fenris and Leviathan had 2 big green rectangles on the engine
- fighter06b texture (used by herc) couldn't be loaded don't know why.
- But the worst is that on the tech room, I can see all the models, I could even render a Hatshesput  with glow and shine maps, with no fps loss, however in game, It's all laggy, it makes me mad because I don't know what's causing the slow down.

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Re: Problem with 3.6.10 and 3.6.9
Big green rectangles probably mean that the texture had an alpha layer and when it was changed to green, like used in PCX, it wasn't the right color in the palette.  I've always hated dealing with PCX palettes myself, thank god we don't have to anymore.
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Offline colecampbell666

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Re: Problem with 3.6.10 and 3.6.9
PS: Don't blame the hardware :p
Why not? Your hardware isn't supported, and it's bound to be too slow and cause issues.
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Re: Problem with 3.6.10 and 3.6.9
Why not? Your hardware isn't supported, and it's bound to be too slow and cause issues.

Because FSO Lags even with mediavps turned off.
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Re: Problem with 3.6.10 and 3.6.9
Why not? Your hardware isn't supported, and it's bound to be too slow and cause issues.
Because FSO Lags even with mediavps turned off.
The hardware isn't helping, either. Not with XP, at least.
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