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Title: "Refight the first insterstellar war of Freespace"
Post by: DarthWang on January 13, 2009, 05:57:27 pm
Wouldn't that be the Ancient-Shivan war?
Title: Re: "Refight the first insterstellar war of Freespace"
Post by: -Norbert- on January 14, 2009, 04:56:13 am
Maybe the first known interstellar war in the FS universe, but since Humans didn't participate the TV war is still the first one for us, apart from the unification, but since it's all in one starsystem it's "just" a local war one could argue.
Besides you are there in the unification war in TVWP...
Title: Re: "Refight the first insterstellar war of Freespace"
Post by: Galemp on January 14, 2009, 09:02:39 am
What if there had been countless races, stretching back into infinity... and like the nine cities of Troy, each civilization had been built on the rubble of the one that came before, each annihilated by the Shivans.

Where would you start?
Title: Re: "Refight the first insterstellar war of Freespace"
Post by: ShadowGorrath on January 14, 2009, 10:09:36 am
Sometime a bit after the Big Bang. Then the first Shivan atoms nuke some other atoms.
Title: Re: "Refight the first insterstellar war of Freespace"
Post by: Droid803 on January 14, 2009, 12:38:38 pm
"Refight the first interstellar war with terrans of FreeSpace"
Title: Re: "Refight the first insterstellar war of Freespace"
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on January 17, 2009, 10:15:22 pm
"Re-fight the interstellar war between the Terrans and Vasudans."?
Title: Re: "Refight the first insterstellar war of Freespace"
Post by: Goober5000 on January 17, 2009, 10:37:05 pm
:rolleyes:

Haven't you guys anything better to argue about?
Title: Re: "Refight the first insterstellar war of Freespace"
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on January 18, 2009, 12:07:40 am
I thought this was a suggestion thread? :confused:
Title: Re: "Refight the first insterstellar war of Freespace"
Post by: aRaven on January 18, 2009, 07:46:13 am
how about "refight the first interstellar war since sliced bread"?
Title: Re: "Refight the first insterstellar war of Freespace"
Post by: ShadowGorrath on January 18, 2009, 08:36:55 am
how about "refight the first interstellar war since sliced bread"?

That'd still be ASW then :p I think...
Title: Re: "Refight the first insterstellar war of Freespace"
Post by: Solatar on January 18, 2009, 10:57:59 pm
The US Civil War is commonly referred to as the first "modern" war.

The "modern era" started after the end of the middle ages (Renaissance was "early modern").

Therefore the US Civil War could not be the first modern war because there were plenty of wars in the modern period before it.

You see how ridiculous semantics can become?
Title: Re: "Refight the first insterstellar war of Freespace"
Post by: Goober5000 on January 19, 2009, 03:02:28 am
I have changed the forum description anyway.

(And I seem to remember someone getting all mad at the new description and posting about it in Hosted Support, but I can't find any such post.  Maybe I imagined it... :nervous:)
Title: Re: "Refight the first insterstellar war of Freespace"
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on January 19, 2009, 03:28:17 am
Cue to facepalm?
Title: Re: "Refight the first insterstellar war of Freespace"
Post by: eliex on January 19, 2009, 03:55:45 am
I have changed the forum description anyway.

The new forum description is . . . stylish. Extremely . . . unique.  ;)
Title: Re: "Refight the first insterstellar war of Freespace"
Post by: ShadowGorrath on January 19, 2009, 03:57:34 am
What is it now?
Title: Re: "Refight the first insterstellar war of Freespace"
Post by: Jeff Vader on January 19, 2009, 03:59:15 am
"Geese can be troublesome."
Title: Re: "Refight the first insterstellar war of Freespace"
Post by: Narvi on January 21, 2009, 04:34:33 am
It's a little known fact that the Ancient-Shivan "war" was in fact, a police action.  :nervous:
Title: Re: "Refight the first insterstellar war of Freespace"
Post by: ShadowGorrath on January 21, 2009, 04:40:40 am
Riiiight. . . ASW didn't want to steal the title though.
Title: Re: "Refight the first insterstellar war of Freespace"
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on March 28, 2011, 01:56:26 pm
Wouldn't that be the Ancient-Shivan war?

No it wouldn't. The Ancients monologues suggest they fought and subjugated species before the Shivans. But the shivans were the only ones they ever retreated against.
Title: Re: "Refight the first insterstellar war of Freespace"
Post by: -Norbert- on March 28, 2011, 02:31:40 pm
And you had to dig thread after two years and two month to tell us that?
Talk about needing a long time to come up with an argument :P
Title: Re: "Refight the first insterstellar war of Freespace"
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on March 28, 2011, 03:10:09 pm
I wouldn't describe a thread third from the top of the page as being "dug up" myself.

Besides in those two years I never read this thread :P
Title: Re: "Refight the first insterstellar war of Freespace"
Post by: Snail on March 28, 2011, 03:51:25 pm
Also don't forget that there may have been countless races, stretching back into infinity, each annihilated by the Shivans...
Title: Re: "Refight the first insterstellar war of Freespace"
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on March 28, 2011, 05:20:51 pm
True. The Ancients and their contemporaries are simply those that we know about.
Everything else is theoretical
Title: Re: "Refight the first insterstellar war of Freespace"
Post by: DarthWang on March 30, 2011, 05:43:48 am
So make a campaign based on those theoretical wars then
Title: Re: "Refight the first insterstellar war of Freespace"
Post by: mjn.mixael on March 30, 2011, 08:14:10 am
Because it would be a lot of work and no one is interested in doing such?

It would mean creating an entirely new race from scratch at least.
Title: Re: "Refight the first insterstellar war of Freespace"
Post by: starlord on March 30, 2011, 08:25:09 am
I actually was eyeing droid's askeldian designs and thought it might serve well in the timeline as the antagonist to the ashdehriens (sorry for the writing)...
Title: Re: "Refight the first insterstellar war of Freespace"
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on March 30, 2011, 02:33:10 pm
Because it would be a lot of work and no one is interested in doing such?

It would mean creating an entirely new race from scratch at least.


Not only that but the result of each battle would be a relative foregone conclusion. If I were actually interested enough to work on a MOD, the only way I'd bring these into a campaign would be as a prelude to Ancient-Shivan contact. Have the Ancients subjugating some lesser race, only to run into the Shivans and start getting their butts kicked. However, a new race would only serve as a distraction if too much time were devoted to it. Best way such a race could serve would be as an introduction to the ancients themselves, to build some player connection before the Shivans arrive.
Title: Re: "Refight the first insterstellar war of Freespace"
Post by: Dragon on March 30, 2011, 02:51:37 pm
Spoiler:
You just described the plot of ASW
Title: Re: "Refight the first insterstellar war of Freespace"
Post by: Snail on March 30, 2011, 03:15:24 pm
It also would basically be so removed from the established canon as to not really be a FreeSpace campaign at all.
Title: Re: "Refight the first insterstellar war of Freespace"
Post by: Eishtmo on March 30, 2011, 06:10:51 pm
Sorry we didn't specify that this is the "first interstellar war between the Terrans and Vasudans."  I mean, just because it's called the "Terran-Vasudan War Project" doesn't mean much of anything or should apply to the story.

To note, the Ancients vs Shivans would NOT be the first interstellar war anyway.  The Ancients were killing other races long before that encounter.
Title: Re: "Refight the first insterstellar war of Freespace"
Post by: Snail on March 31, 2011, 10:54:45 am
(and the Shivans may have been killing species like the Ancients before even the Ancients were about)