[Luis Dias]

Paying 20 bucks for this mess *is* the idiotic thing to do, though. More than 5 bucks for what is currently being "released" is pure generosity from fanboys.

[Det. Bullock]

I'm more or less laughing at the part where my friend stopped playing Elite because 1) The upgraded their anti cheat so he couldn't cheat anymore and 2) He hated the grind for everything

And yet he's vehemently defending Star Cit against my questions as to whether or not the game is functional for him and how it's going with it

Ah well. Thing I'm worried about is the possibility of the price going up again in the future, course that technically happens as CAD becomes weaker

Stick with Elite, the grind is normal in open world space sims and in Elite it's actually more fun than the other open world spacesims I've played, I sincerely doubt that SC will be any better outside Squadron 42.

As for Star Citizen, I wouldn't give them money before the game is complete and released to the public, they have more than enough money but they are still in a very broken alpha after years, I wouldn't trust them as far as I can throw them.

[Colonol Dekker]

My plan.....

Wait for SQ42.

Acquire an evaluation copy.

Not buy main game.


Profit

[Spoon]

I keep finding myself considering buying into Star Citizen. One fellow I know consistently swears by it (usually retorting any sort of bug remarks with 'it runs fine for me'), for... reasons... and I keep considering it

Then I keep reading this thread

Then I also realized the price is forty five USD to buy in to which I promptly said "Yeah no"
Course, I was then called an idiot by my friend who insisted he told me about the 20$ buy in from December. Either way, I keep finding myself between buying this and not buying this

God damn are those glitches funny as all hell though

I am glad I offer you perspective. (definitely don't buy into this)

[Mongoose]

I've actually seen people post videos of similar crazy player-model deformations in other modern-engined games (whether they were CryEngine or UE4 or something else I don't remember), and the sensible explanation given was that, in games where you'll never see your own model, this can be a way of managing weapon elevation changes when you're crouching or jumping or whatnot.  But obviously here we have a game where other people are most definitely going to be seeing your character model, and yet the same issue is occurring, so...yeah.

[deathfun]

This looks like the Star Citizen equivalent to the facepalm

*Facepad*

[MikeRoz]

My plan.....

Wait for SQ42.

Acquire an evaluation copy.

Not buy main game.


Profit

So piracy is condoned here so long as it's a game we don't like?

If the game is so incredibly ****ty, don't buy it and don't play it. If it's worth playing for any reason, then buy it. Anything else is indefensible.

[Cobra]

I reinstalled the game just to see if those bugs were brought about by people going out of their way.

What I got was floating helmets and guns everywhere and an inability to use the elevator. And a complete lack of support for the CH gear. And the controls are wonky as all hell.

[deathfun]

So piracy is condoned here so long as it's a game we don't like?

If the game is so incredibly ****ty, don't buy it and don't play it. If it's worth playing for any reason, then buy it. Anything else is indefensible.

Who said anything about piracy? Last I checked, SQ42 is intended down the road as being a standalone separate entity to the main game
Evaluation copy could mean potential demo or just demo from a friend

[AdmiralRalwood]

Anything else is indefensible.

[Colonol Dekker]

My plan.....

Wait for SQ42.

Acquire an evaluation copy.

Not buy main game.


Profit

So piracy is condoned here so long as it's a game we don't like?

If the game is so incredibly ****ty, don't buy it and don't play it. If it's worth playing for any reason, then buy it. Anything else is indefensible.

As a Mod you think I'd flaunt piracy talk here?

[Aesaar]

I've actually seen people post videos of similar crazy player-model deformations in other modern-engined games (whether they were CryEngine or UE4 or something else I don't remember), and the sensible explanation given was that, in games where you'll never see your own model, this can be a way of managing weapon elevation changes when you're crouching or jumping or whatnot.  But obviously here we have a game where other people are most definitely going to be seeing your character model, and yet the same issue is occurring, so...yeah.

No, no, not just that.  It's happening in a game that not only prides itself on "not cheating" like this, but whose community disparages games that do it.

It's very funny.

[666maslo666]

I keep finding myself considering buying into Star Citizen. One fellow I know consistently swears by it (usually retorting any sort of bug remarks with 'it runs fine for me'), for... reasons... and I keep considering it

Then I keep reading this thread

Then I also realized the price is forty five USD to buy in to which I promptly said "Yeah no"
Course, I was then called an idiot by my friend who insisted he told me about the 20$ buy in from December. Either way, I keep finding myself between buying this and not buying this

God damn are those glitches funny as all hell though

Wait for the next free-fly week and you will be able to test it out for yourself, I'd advise against buying in before you do that.

This. Posting cherry-picked bug screenshots does not tell you anything about the frequency of actually encountering said bugs during normal gameplay. If you have a fast enough connection to not mind a 30 GB download, its best to try the game yourself and see whether the frequency is acceptable for your personal alpha version bug threshold or not.

[The E]

This. Posting cherry-picked bug screenshots does not tell you anything about the frequency of actually encountering said bugs during normal gameplay. If you have a fast enough connection to not mind a 30 GB download, its best to try the game yourself and see whether the frequency is acceptable for your personal alpha version bug threshold or not.

But be wary of letting the downloader do its thing unchecked, as it will happily imitate the very worst habits of peer-to-peer downloaders.

[Cobra]

The SC downloader by default opens six ****ing hundred connections and pretty much destroys any chance of any DNS-based service successfully receiving a reply to a query.

[Luis Dias]

ahaha this conversation is hilarious.

"Look them bugs!!"

"Don't mind the bugs, try it yourself and see if your experience is fine"

"Don't do that, downloading it is *also* filled with bugs!!"

LOL

[Spoon]

Posting cherry-picked bug screenshots does not tell you anything about the frequency of actually encountering said bugs during normal gameplay.

One of the best parts of starcitizen is how incredibly easy it is to run into bugs, like literally just try to play the game normally and you'll run into countless silly bugs. There really is no 'cherry picking' involved here, the game is hosed. The frequency = very frequent.

ahaha this conversation is hilarious.

"Look them bugs!!"

"Don't mind the bugs, try it yourself and see if your experience is fine"

"Don't do that, downloading it is *also* filled with bugs!!"

LOL

also this

[Cobra]

I mean, this is literally the first thing you see running around planet-side: floating helmets, guns, and magazines...

[666maslo666]

The more bugs there are, the more it shows that they are actually working on the game instead of falling into the worst trap of early access games - lack of real progress and too much focus on mere bug fixing in the name of being prematurely user friendly. I wouldnt want SC to end up like Minecraft, which is basically the same game as the first version but with a few more boxes, or Elite, which is a game that is still mile wide and inch deep several years after release. Id rather have them fail than that.

You cannot make an omelete without breaking a few eggs. Bug fixing comes late in the development, especially if the bugs are merely cosmetic and happen only sometimes.

[The E]

The more bugs there are, the more it shows that they are actually working on the game instead of falling into the worst trap of early access games - lack of real progress and too much focus on mere bug fixing in the name of being prematurely user friendly. I wouldnt want SC to end up like Minecraft, which is basically the same game as the first version but with a few more boxes, or Elite, which is a game that is still mile wide and inch deep several years after release. Id rather have them fail than that.

No, having bugs persist over multiple releases really isn't that good a sign. Neither is not locking down basic game mechanics at some point.

You cannot make an omelete without breaking a few eggs. Bug fixing comes late in the development, especially if the bugs are merely cosmetic and happen only sometimes.

Which would be a valid argument if SC was in an internal or tightly restricted alpha. But as the regular free flight weekends show, they believe this is good enough to serve as a demo, despite very little of the game's end state having been implemented.

Also, as anyone who has ever worked on a large software project knows, bugs either get fixed immediately or not at all. It's a technical debt thing, a concept which you should really try to grok.