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Offline General Battuta

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I am basically resigned to the fact that Bioware is not going to be able to write the Reapers in a believably unstoppable and intelligent fashion. So I'm just rooting for the Geth.

fake edit: and the Fat Reaper, who is our salvation through consumption

 
Instead of setting my expectations that high, I'm just holding out hope that they'll be smarter and scarier than most other video game antagonist Aliens/Robots. So far, they have been, and thats kept me happy. I suppose it's easier given that the hardest Sci-Fi that tried to deal with vast Alien intelligences I've ever seriously read was Hyperion.

And if Fat Reaper isn't landed on a futuristic McDonalds when we have our inevitable climactic showdown with his immense bulk, I will be disappoint.

 

Offline Luis Dias

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Harbinger is a stupid wannabe troll, obsessed with Sheppard.

Thus far, Sovereign was the best. "Rudimentary creatures of blood and flesh. You touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding"

Now that's a badass quote. Harbinger was just pathetic in his obsession:

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“You will know pain, Shepard.”
“I know you feel this.”
“Neutralize Commander Shepard.”
“If I must tear you apart, Shepard, I will.”
“Impressive, Shepard.”
“Focus on Shepard.”
“Stop, Shepard.”
“You cannot stop us, Shepard.”
“Shepard, you could have been useful.”
“Shepard, your interference has ended.”
“Shepard, submit now.”
“Shepard, you cannot stop us.”
“You escaped us before, Shepard, not again.”
“You cannot stop us, Shepard.”
“You will regret your resistance, Shepard.”
“You cannot escape your destiny, Shepard.”
“You are arrogant, Shepard, you will learn.”
“Why do you resist us, Shepard?”
“You cannot kill me, Shepard.”
“Shepard, I always survive.”
“Flee while you can, Shepard.”

YEah, Harb, I know you love me, but won't you please SHUT UP!

 

Offline newman

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* Physics in small font

Assuming non-relativistic speeds:

Ek = ½ m1 v12 = ½ m2 v22

m1 v12 = m2 v22


So, if we assume that mass one (projectile) is one ten billionth of mass two (asteroid), that gives us

m2 = m1 * 10^10

m1 v12 = 10^10 * m1 v22

v12 = 10^10 * v22

v1 = 10^5 * v2


Now if the asteroid's velocity is, let's say 200 m/s, the projectile's velocity would need to be 20000000 m/s, or 20,000 km/s which is about 6.7% of light speed in vacuum.

Now the two objects have the same kinetic energy (or approximately, relativistic effects will be minimal below 0.1c so it's sufficient accuracy).

If we now compare the momentums of the objects:

p1 = m1v1

p2 = m2v2


m2 = m1 * 10^10
v2
= v1 * 10^-5

p2 = m1 * 10^10 * v1 * 10^-5 = m1 v1 * 10^5[/font]

Follows:


p1 = m1v1

p2 = p1 * 10^5


...which means the asteroid with ten billion times the mass of the small projectile, at the velocity that gives them approximately same kinetic energy, has ten thousand times the momentum of the projectile.

Which means, in plaintext, that although both objects have same kinetic energy yield, it is ten thousand times easier to stop the projectile due to its much smaller momentum. QED


Thank you Data, when you put it like that the game doesn't seem fun at all anymore :P
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Offline General Battuta

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Basically everything a Reaper has ever said in Mass Effect has been dumb, cliched and unintimidating (but good for Youtube remixes in which Harbinger has sex with Jacob). Maybe they can be magically rehabilitated.

 

Offline TrashMan

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Of course, considering a mass relay can survive being physically knocked away by a supernova shockwave (Mu Relay), so it does present somewhat of a problem how the asteroid could possibly destroy the Alpha Relay.

Wan't that rely really far from the star?
IIRC, the further away from the nove, the less damage...as the energy falls off with distance, given that the surface of the destructive sphere increases
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Offline Luis Dias

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Basically everything a Reaper has ever said in Mass Effect has been dumb, cliched and unintimidating (but good for Youtube remixes in which Harbinger has sex with Jacob). Maybe they can be magically rehabilitated.

Sovereign was good material. Not brilliant, but good.

EDIT: where the hell is that remix?

 

Offline Herra Tohtori

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EDIT: where the hell is that remix?




Thank you Data, when you put it like that the game doesn't seem fun at all anymore :P

You need to read it with Mordin voice

Let me help you put a face to the words

« Last Edit: June 08, 2011, 01:34:55 pm by Herra Tohtori »
There are three things that last forever: Abort, Retry, Fail - and the greatest of these is Fail.

 
Ow painful laughter. :lol:

 

Offline newman

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Yea that works Herra, thanks. Now maybe a Gilbert & Sullivan version?
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Offline mxlm

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Also because they are superintelligent machines with the intellects of entire species, they should be able to plot out a tactical situation like you can tie your shoes.

But the intellect of an entire species would be average, right? All the idiots would counterbalance the geniuses.

Wait, that's not helping, is it?
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Offline StarSlayer

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I am basically resigned to the fact that Bioware is not going to be able to write the Reapers in a believably unstoppable and intelligent fashion. So I'm just rooting for the Geth.

fake edit: and the Fat Reaper, who is our salvation through consumption

And so the Reapers awakened to begin the cycle anew only to find the most suitable organic life available for this culling to be Hutts, thus Reaper Desilijic Tiure was born...

"Ho Ho Ho Ho  This Shepard is my kind of scum: fearless and inventive."

Opps and now I just thought of my fem Shep is a Leia slave girl costume :D
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Offline MP-Ryan

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OK, I just had a chance to watch the new gameplay footage and all I have to say is this:  DO WANT.  I'm picturing how that mobility is going to play out for my vanguard, and I really like where this is going  :yes:
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I am basically resigned to the fact that Bioware is not going to be able to write the Reapers in a believably unstoppable and intelligent fashion. So I'm just rooting for the Geth.

The Zerg Rush worked for the Zerg... Mabye it will work for the reapers.

 

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Offline Fury

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S-H-E-P-A-R-D

Christ, why do people get it always wrong. :p

 
 

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Offline Herra Tohtori

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There are three things that last forever: Abort, Retry, Fail - and the greatest of these is Fail.