[blowfish]

Hum? Maybe SEXPs?
The BVas does 22385 dmg, wheras the Deimos has 80000 hit points.
a) it was SEXP'd for a more cinematic effect or
b) the Psamtik was given a stronger beam for a more cinematic effect.
Can't find any entry on a BFVas though.

I said it before, and I'll say it again, in all caps this time just to make sure you understand.

THE BELESARIUS WAS AT 24% HULL INTEGRITY.

[Admiral_Stones]

Hum? Maybe SEXPs?
The BVas does 22385 dmg, wheras the Deimos has 80000 hit points.
a) it was SEXP'd for a more cinematic effect or
b) the Psamtik was given a stronger beam for a more cinematic effect.
Can't find any entry on a BFVas though.

I SAID IT BEFORE, AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN, IN ALL CAPS THIS TIME JUST TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND.

THE BELESARIUS WAS AT 24% HULL INTEGRITY.

Corrected.

[Kopachris]

Best capship?  A Pegasus fighter using cheat codes.  Technically not a cap, but you can't argue with BFReds.

[Mars]

Apparrently the best cap ship is whatever Ghostavo says it is because he can make up a great story about super sensors... with no canon evience.

However, with no evidence to the contrary, I'd say his argument is pretty safe...


permenently safe

[Nuclear1]

The Belisarius had 24% of its hull left.

1/4 of 80000 is 20000 (ie Belisarius at 25%). BVas does 22000ish damage. That's more than 25% of the Belisarius hull integrity, and therefore more than the 24 it was at.

The Psamtik used a BVas with one fire-beam SEXP to destroy the Belisarius. However, if by some freak accident the Belisarius isn't destroyed by the beam, there is a self-destruct SEXP to ensure it does blow up. Its timed to go during the last second or so of the beam to make it look believable.

So technically, a Hatshepsut could waste 25% of a Deimos hull with one shot, and usually 50% if the Deimos is anywhere higher than it (two BVas cannons at least)

[Hellstryker]

Aeolus and Iceni. The Aeolus because it just plain rapes everything its size or smaller, and the iceni because it has the firepower of an orion on the hull of a corvette

[Admiral_Stones]

Hum? I wanna see a Aeolus raping a Lilith without ass-raped itself by a humongous LRed.

[BengalTiger]

A few times it worked for me- the Aeolus beamed the Lilith's BFred and then proceeded to flak it to a long and painfull death.
If the first salvo of beams doesn't kill the BFred, the Aeoulus any cruiser can kiss it's @$$ goodbye, it's just that the Aeolus does huge enough damage with all it's flak guns that it can actually get into a balanced fight when the Lilith has the one turret less.

[Snail]

A few times it worked for me- the Aeolus beamed the Lilith's BFred and then proceeded to flak it to a long and painfull death.
If the first salvo of beams doesn't kill the BFred, the Aeoulus any cruiser can kiss it's @$$ goodbye, it's just that the Aeolus does huge enough damage with all it's flak guns that it can actually get into a balanced fight when the Lilith has the one turret less.

The Lilith doesn't have a BFRed, it's got an LRed. The Lilith is pretty useless when you disable the LRed anyway. It's just as badly armed as the Cain, save for replacing the Shivan Turret Lasers with Shivan Mega or Shivan Heavy Lasers.

[BengalTiger]

The Lilith doesn't have a BFRed, it's got an LRed. The Lilith is pretty useless when you disable the LRed anyway. It's just as badly armed as the Cain, save for replacing the Shivan Turret Lasers with Shivan Mega or Shivan Heavy Lasers.

Crap... my mistake, Real Life^TM kept me busy enough not to think about what type of evil red beam the Lilith has when I was browsing through the forum...

Either way- take the LRed from the Lilith and it's target practice.
Take any single turret from an Aeolus and it'll flak you up.

[Snail]

Take any single turret from an Aeolus and it'll flak you up.

Yes, the Aeolus has no particular complete weak points that are exploitable, though the Lilith does.

[Ghostavo]

Apparrently the best cap ship is whatever Ghostavo says it is because he can make up a great story about super sensors... with no canon evience.

However, with no evidence to the contrary, I'd say his argument is pretty safe...


permenently safe

You're seriously going to argue that the Shivans don't have better sensors than the GTVA? 

I'm not making up a story, I'm just using what information the campaign gives us. So if you're going to argue it's about incredulous things, complain at the plot.

[Mars]

No where does it say shivan sensors are superior.

The ravana is said to be tasked with destroying smaller ships.

[Snail]

No where does it say shivan sensors are superior.

Well the fact that they can't be targetted in FS1 does seem to imply that.

[Ghostavo]

No where does it say shivan sensors are superior.

The ravana is said to be tasked with destroying smaller ships.

Besides the fact that they seem to always find you in the nebula whenever they want but the oposite can't be said?

[Colonol Dekker]

Cough, AWACs are kind of effective as proved by the gas  miner assault and tracking the Ravanna in the dirt place.

[Desert Tyrant]

Cough, AWACs are kind of effective as proved by the gas  miner assault and tracking the Ravanna in the dirt place.

AWACS wasn't deployed by the GTVA until after the Ravana was destroyed. (It was first deployed in the SOC mission where you have to escort the Argo out of system.  The specific ship was the GTA Hamako in that mission.  I wish I could remember the mission name.)

[blowfish]

"Love the Treason..."

[Desert Tyrant]

"Love the Treason..."

That's the one.  Thanks.

[Jeff Vader]

Indeed. And the first "official" deployment, or at least the first test in a nebula environment, was in "Battle of the Wilderness".