[Commander Zane]

I wouldn't want to go through a .torrent for this. If Shivan's installer would have taken me four weeks to download it I couldn't imagine how long this would take, I'd rather go with downloading chunks.

[hip63]

Also, you guys may wanna take a page from how some of the Flight Sim Mods sites do it, via (almost) free disk mailing.

We do it for the Fighter Squadron Game I'm involved with & they also do it over at ww2fighters.org for Jane's WWII Fighters sim, just to name a couple.

Here's how it works:

First you need some volunteers from the community who are willing to burn and ship the disks. This works best if you have volunteers in the US and Europe (and other areas is even better if it can be managed)

Then you put link, stick or whatever here at Hard Light for ordering the disks. The disks are basically free, the player simply pays a "handling fee" (usually about 2 bucks or the Euro equivelent) to cover the cost of the blank DVD disk, mail packaging and postage.
Any loose change left over could be saved up & used to support the site too

For those on dail up, these things are a Godsend

I think few would b!#ch about $2 for DVD mailed to their house. I've ordered them myself in the past

just an idea

hip63

[karajorma]

What worries me about that is that the SCP license specifically forbids making money on it. Even if we aren't making a profit, even if we ship everything at cost you still have a website taking cash in order to distribute a game we don't actually have the license for.

[jr2]

Snail Mail addy sent to hip63...
@karajorma: as for the mailing idea, I suppose you could just put up a sticky asking for volunteers.  Then, tell people that when they receive the DVD, if they want to they can defray costs, and send ~$2 or whatever to the return addy they received the DVD from.  Tell them to be sure and specify (in a letter, note, whatever, inside the envelope that the money is just to cover distribution costs, and that any extra is a mistake.  Again, the money to cover costs would be optional, if they feel like helping.  The volunteers should understand this, and realize that they may not ever get all their investment back, besides in happy FS:SCP'ers... as long as the volunteers understand this, I think that'll be alright.
Perhaps we could design a system where people post their addys to a central secure location, and volunteers can look at, and claim addresses to mail to.  The address then reads as "assigned" to that volunteer.  That way, three volunteers won't send to the same person.
Ideas? Comments? Flames? -err,
                                                         nvm, skip that last one..

[Bob-san]

How about a system where people who want the game will file their address, and people who are willing to mail it out also file their address... the closest domestic matches send out confirmation, including the mailers saying the price for the actual disc, package, postage, and case or other documentation... that way everyone has their own style; for example I could send out a DVD in a slim case, or in a CD envelope, or just the DVD itself.... charge appropriately for the package and the postage (usually a CD/DVD box).

Hows that?

[Mobius]

Well how about DLing it from here?

[karajorma]

Well how about DLing it from here?

Not unless some rich benefactor wants to give us a very large chunk of money to seriously upgrade the bandwidth on the site.

[neoterran]

make a torrent, problem solved. duh.

[Bob-san]

make a torrent, problem solved. duh.

Torrents still cause large problems... example: they're slow. another example: many ISP's will ban the use of them (risk going over your bandwidth, your agreement not to use P2P file sharing, and not to be a server to other computers). a third example: it only takes one virus to infect the file and spread from one person's computer to many others.

I would rather do a FTP download or get a DVD then a Torrent...

[Mobius]

...which is a more reasonable idea.

[jr2]

a third example: it only takes one virus to infect the file and spread from one person's computer to many others.

Not really.  torrents incorporate hashes to prevent this, if I understand correctly.

The exact information contained in the torrent file depends on the version of the BitTorrent protocol. By convention, the name of a torrent file has the suffix .torrent. Torrent files contain an "announce" section, which specifies the URL of the tracker, and an "info" section which contains (suggested) names for the files, their lengths, the piece length used, and a SHA-1 hash code for each piece, which clients should use to verify the integrity of the data they receive.

[Bob-san]

Whatever... I still can't and won't use Torrents... my ISP bans being a file-host for other people (nothing against legally downloading and uploading LEGAL stuff... they just prefer that use too much bandwidth).

Anyways... why not simply host a number of disc images on SourceForge or something? It would work a lot better... well, good luck! Just don't make the only way to download VIA torrents!

[hip63]

jr2, keep an eye on that mailbox there bro

Now for everyone else, I'm "borrowing" some bandwidth from work
(I wonder if they will miss it ) and I'm currently uploading 4 RAR Files
containing the ISO image to Filefront but all the uploads and links won't be
ready until tommorrow

But Hey Part One is up already so early birds can grab it here:
Download FreeSpaceSCP.part1.rar from FileFront!

Part Two is Up!
Download FreeSpaceSCP.part2.rar from FileFront!

Links Three and Four Will be up tomorrow, Stay Tuned!

hip63

[Turey]

But Hey Part One is up already so early birds can grab it here:
Download FreeSpaceSCP.part1.rar from FileFront!

Part Two is Up!
Download FreeSpaceSCP.part2.rar from FileFront!

Links Three and Four Will be up tomorrow, Stay Tuned!

hip63

Currently downloading parts 1 & 2. I'm interested to see how this turns out.

[hip63]

Part 3 is up!
Download FreeSpaceSCP.part3.rar from FileFront!

hip63

[hip63]

Hurray!   

The fourth & final part 4 is up!
Download FreeSpaceSCP.part4.rar from FileFront!

let me know what you think & don't forget to vote!

Oh and fear not those of limited bandwidth, I've started up loading the FSSCP installer I made in 100mb chunks, it should be up by evening.

hip63

[jr2]

@hip63: Just to let you know, I got your DVD in the mail today.  I'll see if I can't do something tomorrow after work, thx.
Oh, BTW... You've uploaded to FileFront already.  Where do you want me to stick this bad boy?    Of course, I'll burn copies for my friends, but if someone's got server space somewheres, just say the word... or did you want to "borrow" more bandwidth?   

[hip63]

Like that lavish packaging

Park that puppy for d/l where ever you can

Work is too busy these days to do anything except for work

Enjoy the Disk and let me know what you think

hip63

[jr2]

And no return address!  Darn!  I was hoping for someplace to lose this *nthra*. 

[Darklord42]

what about some sort of internet ordering that people can pay for shiping exactly via internet, such as paypal, and then having the volunteers ship it?  Also is there a Image CD Art that one can burn onto a DVD via lightscribe or print on a sticker or what ever people use or shall i have to make my own?    I'm tempted to dl it now but I think I want to wait till mediavps are updated.  You say turry's updater is part of the package?