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Title: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Mobius on December 19, 2010, 04:46:41 am: GTB Phoebus

This is the first of a hopefully long series of model releases. We're now presenting you the GTB Phoebus, cockpitted and with awesome maps.

Credits:

Model - Aldo

Download from INF SCP's profile | ModDB.com (http://www.moddb.com/games/infscp/addons/gtb-phoebus)
Download from INFASA's profile | ModDB.com (http://www.moddb.com/games/infasa/addons/gtb-phoebus)
(feel free to upload it to FSMods. The more DL links, the better.)

(http://media.moddb.com/images/games/1/13/12178/Show_Phoebus.jpg)
Title: Re: Inferno Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Snail on December 19, 2010, 10:41:22 am: Is this that bomber from Paradigm Shift? If so, it's not exactly new.

Sorry, I am an asshole.
Title: Re: Inferno Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Mobius on December 19, 2010, 10:44:31 am: Well, if you take a look at the cockpit and textures, you'd notice the difference.

On a side note, the download's been authorized again. Get it while it's hot!
Title: Re: Inferno Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Snail on December 19, 2010, 10:45:40 am: Cool
Title: Re: Inferno Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Droid803 on December 19, 2010, 12:15:32 pm: omfg inferno is releasing assets to public!
squeee!
Title: Re: Inferno Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Galemp on December 19, 2010, 12:21:41 pm: Nice!
Title: Re: Inferno Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: starbug on December 19, 2010, 03:30:14 pm: Cool any chance you'll release that cool cruiser the bellephron one with the Fenris textures or the SD Yama??? :)
Title: Re: Inferno Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Mobius on December 19, 2010, 03:33:59 pm: Only Woomeister can answer to this question... :nervous:
Title: Re: Inferno Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Woomeister on December 19, 2010, 03:40:22 pm: Eventually and probably sometime within the next 365 days :nervous:
Title: Re: Inferno Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: headdie on December 19, 2010, 03:41:28 pm: Quote from: Woomeister on December 19, 2010, 03:40:22 pm
Eventually and probably sometime within the next 365 days :nervous:

We'll have it in time for Christmas then
Title: Re: Inferno Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Mobius on December 19, 2010, 03:44:40 pm: Quote from: Woomeister on December 19, 2010, 03:40:22 pm
Eventually and probably sometime within the next 365 days :nervous:

Wise words! :lol:
Title: Re: Inferno Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Woomeister on December 19, 2010, 03:45:06 pm: Quote
We'll have it in time for Christmas then
Well that is within the timeframe, but I can safely say no to that :lol:
Title: Re: Inferno Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Mobius on December 19, 2010, 03:47:26 pm: Woo means next year's Christmas... ;)
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Thaeris on December 19, 2010, 04:42:32 pm: I can neither see or link to the image. Can you mirror the image on a normal image hosting site?
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Hades on December 19, 2010, 08:42:32 pm: (http://media.moddb.com/images/games/1/13/12178/Show_Phoebus.jpg)

Mobius tried putting a url in the [img] part instead of an image url
Title: Re: Inferno Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Shivan Hunter on December 19, 2010, 09:54:46 pm: Quote from: Snail on December 19, 2010, 10:41:22 am
Is this that bomber from Paradigm Shift? If so, it's not exactly new.

Who the frakking frak would name a campaign "paradigm shift" for the love of frakking Cthulhu come on now

also, nice bomber although I don't see much in the way of normal mapping
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Droid803 on December 19, 2010, 11:05:43 pm: It seems you aren't well versed in the history of failed megamods.
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Black Wolf on December 20, 2010, 06:02:36 am: It's from before Paradigm Shift IIRC, prolly ex-Reciprocity. But I suspect the new part is the cockpit.
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Woomeister on December 20, 2010, 10:21:13 am: It's from the original Casualties of War originally.
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Dragon on December 20, 2010, 12:10:20 pm: It was made by Aldo for one of his campaigns (not Lost Souls).
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: ShadowWolf_IH on February 06, 2011, 09:30:17 am: Who did the HTL work?
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Woomeister on February 06, 2011, 09:36:05 am: It's not HTL, it just has a cockpit and a newer texture.
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: ShadowWolf_IH on February 06, 2011, 09:52:13 am: ok but who did it?
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Woomeister on February 06, 2011, 10:15:13 am: cockpit - probably me
maps - freespaceking
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: ShadowWolf_IH on February 06, 2011, 10:44:57 am: Thanks. I am replacing the original in CoW 1 with it, and wannted be sure in the credits.
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Woolie Wool on February 06, 2011, 11:56:33 pm: Holy **** that is amazing! Unbelievable what just one texture can do to a ratty old CoW model. I love it!

Spoiler:
Could you release the old cockpitted Claymore from the glory shots thread next? Please? Pretty please? I've been lusting after that model for years and I've been told you don't use it anymore.
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Mobius on February 19, 2011, 05:24:13 am: Which version of the Claymore? :)
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Woolie Wool on February 19, 2011, 11:32:15 am: (http://inferno.hard-light.net/Glory/010claymore01.jpg)
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Droid803 on February 19, 2011, 11:56:53 am: That's a remapped INFR1 claymore with a pair of growths.
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Woolie Wool on February 19, 2011, 12:08:28 pm: Uh, whut? The whole model is entirely different--the body is thicker, the contours smoother, the nose doesn't resemble the INFR1 model at all.
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Dragon on February 22, 2011, 03:36:04 am: It looks great anyway.
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Mobius on March 17, 2011, 01:17:29 pm: Yeah, I'm a big fan of that version. :)
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Commander Zane on March 17, 2011, 01:31:11 pm: Plus it has canards, which the INFR1 Claymore Mk. I did not have.
There's a newer version of the same model in the above image too, Shadow Genesis (I believe it's this) will be using the displayed image as far as I know and the upcoming Inferno has the newest model.
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Mobius on March 17, 2011, 01:45:50 pm: Isn't the SG version named TF Ion or something like that?
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Nyctaeus on March 17, 2011, 01:58:51 pm: Nononono! SG isn't using any version of Claymore. I know Dark Storm project has their own version of HTL Claymore.
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Mobius on March 17, 2011, 02:01:03 pm: I must have confused the two projects, then.
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Commander Zane on March 17, 2011, 02:45:38 pm: Okay Dark Storm then, I wasn't entirely sure. :nervous:
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Droid803 on March 17, 2011, 07:40:29 pm: Quote from: Mobius on March 17, 2011, 01:45:50 pm
Isn't the SG version named TF Ion or something like that?
That's like ShivanHunter's fighter or something...
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Snail on March 19, 2011, 06:53:44 am: While models are being released, is there any chance of the old GTCv Erinome from INFA being released publicly? The old model which AFAIK is not used anywhere anymore.
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Mobius on March 19, 2011, 08:52:40 am: The main problem would be the quality of the model, which is too low to justify all the attention it'd get in case of release.
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Snail on March 19, 2011, 09:00:38 am: Quote from: Mobius on March 19, 2011, 08:52:40 am
The main problem would be the quality of the model, which is too low to justify all the attention it'd get in case of release.
It still deserves a release. I'm sure someone could find a use for it.
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Mobius on March 19, 2011, 09:13:49 am: I'll let the others know that, don't worry.
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Droid803 on March 19, 2011, 01:23:29 pm: Eh, let others be the judge of the quality.
Nothing saying that someone won't fix it up ;)
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Dragon on March 19, 2011, 01:26:36 pm: In fact, I think that Inferno could dump all the old stuff it's no longer using, even if it's really old.
Somebody will find an use for it, or maybe even make a HTL version.
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Nyctaeus on March 19, 2011, 01:42:10 pm: Quote from: Dragon on March 19, 2011, 01:26:36 pm
In fact, I think that Inferno could dump all the old stuff it's no longer using, even if it's really old.
Somebody will find an use for it, or maybe even make a HTL version.
Good idea.
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Mobius on March 19, 2011, 02:01:37 pm: Fortunately, this is no news: the Phoebus and Bastions are available in case anyone wants to upgrade them, and future releases will also be fully available for the same purpose. We'd like to release models progressively because large modeldumps may be a bit confusing and time-confusing (remember that our main focus now is INFR1U).
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Snail on March 19, 2011, 02:09:23 pm: If you're not using models, there is absolutely no reason to be hoarding them, so please please please ~~love me do~~ release them.
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Mobius on March 19, 2011, 02:11:02 pm: I think we made it clear that we're going to release them... where's the problem?
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Snail on March 19, 2011, 02:11:59 pm: Sorry I just wanted to make obscure beatles reference
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Dragon on March 19, 2011, 03:48:44 pm: I'd like to see the corvette and Claymore Mk.1, that's for sure.
Also, it's rather difficult to confuse time, but I think that compiling a modeldump may be time-consuming. [/grammar nazi] :)
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Trivial Psychic on March 19, 2011, 03:49:52 pm: I do recall from one of the old Inferno websites, that there was to be a model in R2 that used Fenris-like textures, called the Bellerophon. I recall that it seemed to get a decent amount of attention in those days, but I have never seen the model released in the days since. Are there still plans to use this design (though perhaps upgraded) in the new R2, or can it be released publicly... or has the model been lost through some HDD failure?
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Snail on March 19, 2011, 03:52:41 pm: I believe it's still used in Inferno.
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Mobius on March 19, 2011, 04:24:09 pm: The Bellerophon? Uhm...

Quote from: Dragon on March 19, 2011, 03:48:44 pm
Also, it's rather difficult to confuse time, but I think that compiling a modeldump may be time-consuming. [/grammar nazi] :)

Sorry, I meant consuming. :)
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Snail on March 19, 2011, 04:36:15 pm: Uhm?
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Mobius on March 20, 2011, 06:10:28 am: Is this the corvette you were refering to, Snail?

(http://media.moddb.com/images/games/1/13/12022/INFA_Kometes.jpg)
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Snail on March 20, 2011, 06:36:01 am: Yuppers
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Mobius on March 20, 2011, 06:46:07 am: I told you the level of detail isn't great, however. Is anyone willing to even use that ship? :p
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Snail on March 20, 2011, 06:58:07 am: Quote from: Mobius on March 20, 2011, 06:46:07 am
I told you the level of detail isn't great, however. Is anyone willing to even use that ship? :p
If you're not using it you may as well release it.
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Commander Zane on March 20, 2011, 07:01:30 am: Never know, someone might.
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Mobius on March 20, 2011, 07:03:31 am: Is anyone interested on revamping the mesh? It may be yet another good reason to release this model.
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Snail on March 20, 2011, 07:08:24 am: Just release it already! :(
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Dragon on March 20, 2011, 07:30:36 am: I have an idea for it, it'd make a great corvette support for Zagreus.
I'll most likely use it if it'd be released.
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Snail on March 20, 2011, 07:33:49 am: See! Lots of people could use it. Woolie could also use it in one of his campaigns since he makes extensive use of ships of that style.
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Woomeister on March 20, 2011, 07:46:52 am: Well we are talking 200-600 polygon ships here, not stuff like we've been showcasing in the eyecandy thread. These are more the type of things that I'd dump in a huge zip alltogether because they aren't worth being released as singular official use ships nowadays. Plus we have to revamp the tables to remove armour coding and none released weapons as well as making them compatable with the mediavp textures so they can be used for anything.
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Snail on March 20, 2011, 07:47:44 am: None of that is really necessary. All of that can be done by the end user. If the end user wants to use it, they should be the ones doing the work, basically.
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Dragon on March 20, 2011, 07:58:12 am: If you'd dump that in a huge .zip, then do just that.
Just upload it somewhere else than to Fileplanet.
Everybody who'd like to use one of these ships would have to edit tables a bit, but that shouldn't be a problem for anybody who's using custom ships anyway.
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Woomeister on March 20, 2011, 08:02:40 am: We'll end up getting flooded with 'it doesn't work' posts if we don't unless we state its a full model dump, but single release ships have to be fully useable at least or there's no point releasing them separately.
I do want to keep a specific level of quality control on things getting released, so that we don't get loads of complaints later.
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Dragon on March 20, 2011, 08:04:40 am: Making a full model dump is exactly what I suggested (I guess that only a few of these ships are good enough to warrant a full release).
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Woomeister on March 20, 2011, 08:12:14 am: Quote from: Dragon on March 20, 2011, 07:58:12 am
If you'd dump that in a huge .zip, then do just that.
Just upload it somewhere else than to Fileplanet.
Everybody who'd like to use one of these ships would have to edit tables a bit, but that shouldn't be a problem for anybody who's using custom ships anyway.
If it was a true model dump then yes I would just dump the pofs with no other files or support, but that would take time to build and Mobius wants this ship released right now, so it has to be fully useable as a standalone release model. Some models would need to be returreted though if they use our custom turret maps as those wouldn't be in the pack.

As for the stuff dumped from the anniversary release I'm withholding that for a specific reason. I actually want to release them separately with FULL Inferno compatability with that release as if they were never cut. So if you want to have the Ryujin back in there, then you have the choice to download it separately. But if it gets released now that will not happen as I'll consider it done and not worth the bother as others can do it themselves then since they have the files they need to do so. But of course if you can't mod then you're out of luck until someone shares their version.
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Mobius on March 20, 2011, 08:15:55 am: I think all released models should have a working table entry and adequate tech descriptions. I'm not a big fan of POFs and texturers literally thrown to the public with a big "do the rest of the job yourselves, dear end users" written on the package. ;)
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Dragon on March 20, 2011, 08:22:02 am: They should, but table entries could be unaltered from Inferno ones, since most designers change armament anyway.
Release with full compatiblity to Inferno would be a great thing though, far better than a single modeldump.
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Mobius on March 20, 2011, 08:31:31 am: I would personally prefer full compatibility with vanilla FS2 or the FSPort over compatibility with Inferno. It makes things so much easier for the end user.

Table entries will be obviously changed, of course, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't provide them or people will have nothing to work on. Also, I strongly believe each released ship should have a tech description explaining what it was meant for.
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Woomeister on March 20, 2011, 08:37:17 am: Quote from: Dragon on March 20, 2011, 08:22:02 am
They should, but table entries could be unaltered from Inferno ones, since most designers change armament anyway.
Release with full compatiblity to Inferno would be a great thing though, far better than a single modeldump.
We use different Ai settings, armour code settings and sometimes even sound offsets for engines, it's not as simple as just changing weapons to get it to work with another mod, everything has to be checked.
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Snail on March 20, 2011, 08:50:10 am: Okay OKAY I ADMIT IT i just wanted that particular ship for my campaign can I have it now please :(
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Mobius on March 20, 2011, 08:52:24 am: Be patient. :)
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Snail on March 20, 2011, 08:58:38 am: nOOoOoOoooooooo
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Mobius on March 20, 2011, 09:06:39 am: What's up, now? :wtf:
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Black Wolf on March 20, 2011, 09:38:22 am: What was the fenris textured cruiser thing that kind of had downward sloping sides and a fairly flat design? I remember that thing being pretty cool.
Title: Re: Model Release I: GTB Phoebus
Post by: Snail on March 20, 2011, 10:12:02 am: Quote from: Black Wolf on March 20, 2011, 09:38:22 am
What was the fenris textured cruiser thing that kind of had downward sloping sides and a fairly flat design? I remember that thing being pretty cool.
Probably the Bellerophon.