Author Topic: Nemesis?  (Read 32263 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Mobius

  • Back where he started
  • Moderator
  • 213
  • Porto l'azzurro Dolce Stil Novo nella fantascienza
    • Skype
    • Twitter
    • The Lightblue Ribbon | Cultural Project
It's probably what everyone espects from a modern campaign, sure. Just saying that characters won't be handled as in character-driven campaigns such as BP, Transcend, Sync, etc. etc.
The Lightblue Ribbon

Inferno: Nostos - Alliance
Series Resurrecta: {{FS Wiki Portal}} -  Gehenna's Gate - The Spirit of Ptah - Serendipity (WIP) - <REDACTED> (WIP)
FreeSpace Campaign Restoration Project
A tribute to FreeSpace in my book: Riflessioni dall'Infinito
My interviews: [ 1 ] - [ 2 ] - [ 3 ]

 

Offline General Battuta

  • Poe's Law In Action
  • 214
  • i wonder when my postcount will exceed my iq
No no no it's not what everyone expects, this one expects Inferno to be awesome and totally and impersonal like FS2 retail was


 

Offline Mobius

  • Back where he started
  • Moderator
  • 213
  • Porto l'azzurro Dolce Stil Novo nella fantascienza
    • Skype
    • Twitter
    • The Lightblue Ribbon | Cultural Project
I don't think a modern campaign can be 100% characters free, though.
The Lightblue Ribbon

Inferno: Nostos - Alliance
Series Resurrecta: {{FS Wiki Portal}} -  Gehenna's Gate - The Spirit of Ptah - Serendipity (WIP) - <REDACTED> (WIP)
FreeSpace Campaign Restoration Project
A tribute to FreeSpace in my book: Riflessioni dall'Infinito
My interviews: [ 1 ] - [ 2 ] - [ 3 ]

 

Offline General Battuta

  • Poe's Law In Action
  • 214
  • i wonder when my postcount will exceed my iq
I most strenously disagree old bean I think that all approaches to storytelling are welcome

 

Offline Rampage

  • Son Of Rampage
  • 211
  • Urogynaecologist
If you really want to hearken back to the old days, then make the protagonist carry superpowered weapons and make him go up against swarm after swarm of Shivans and also have him nuke a Sathanas all while drinking tea.*

*It's not a bad idea; we may include a few gauntlet missions similar to those of FS1.  After all, what's more epic than having your Herc blow up a Demon on Insane difficulty all by yourself?

 

Offline General Battuta

  • Poe's Law In Action
  • 214
  • i wonder when my postcount will exceed my iq
Rampage you are a pretty cool dude

* General Battuta hugs rampage

 

Offline Mobius

  • Back where he started
  • Moderator
  • 213
  • Porto l'azzurro Dolce Stil Novo nella fantascienza
    • Skype
    • Twitter
    • The Lightblue Ribbon | Cultural Project
If we really want that, then we will have to make capships easier to kill.
The Lightblue Ribbon

Inferno: Nostos - Alliance
Series Resurrecta: {{FS Wiki Portal}} -  Gehenna's Gate - The Spirit of Ptah - Serendipity (WIP) - <REDACTED> (WIP)
FreeSpace Campaign Restoration Project
A tribute to FreeSpace in my book: Riflessioni dall'Infinito
My interviews: [ 1 ] - [ 2 ] - [ 3 ]

 
Just make Inferno the thing that required an entire new line of builds for FS_Open.  More ships, bigger lol-huge ships, and lots of pretty explosions.  I want to feel like I'm the main character in a Michael Bay movie.  No serious business.
17:37:02   Quanto: I want to have sexual intercourse with every space elf in existence
17:37:11   SpardaSon21: even the males?
17:37:22   Quanto: its not gay if its an elf

[21:51] <@Droid803> I now realize
[21:51] <@Droid803> this will be SLIIIIIGHTLY awkward
[21:51] <@Droid803> as this rich psychic girl will now be tsundere for a loli.
[21:51] <@Droid803> OH WELLL.

See what you're missing in #WoD and #Fsquest?

[07:57:32] <Caiaphas> inspired by HerraTohtori i built a supermaneuverable plane in ksp
[07:57:43] <Caiaphas> i just killed my pilots with a high-g maneuver
[07:58:19] <Caiaphas> apparently people can't take 20 gees for 5 continuous seconds
[08:00:11] <Caiaphas> the plane however performed admirably, and only crashed because it no longer had any guidance systems

 

Offline General Battuta

  • Poe's Law In Action
  • 214
  • i wonder when my postcount will exceed my iq
mobius i want this to be you

« Last Edit: January 09, 2011, 12:06:44 pm by General Battuta »

 

Offline Mobius

  • Back where he started
  • Moderator
  • 213
  • Porto l'azzurro Dolce Stil Novo nella fantascienza
    • Skype
    • Twitter
    • The Lightblue Ribbon | Cultural Project
If we really want that, then we will have to make capships easier to kill.

Now that I think of it, gauntlet missions centered on Inferno's superbombers may be a good idea.
The Lightblue Ribbon

Inferno: Nostos - Alliance
Series Resurrecta: {{FS Wiki Portal}} -  Gehenna's Gate - The Spirit of Ptah - Serendipity (WIP) - <REDACTED> (WIP)
FreeSpace Campaign Restoration Project
A tribute to FreeSpace in my book: Riflessioni dall'Infinito
My interviews: [ 1 ] - [ 2 ] - [ 3 ]

 

Offline Snail

  • SC 5
  • 214
  • Posts: ☂
I hate how AoA came out and now everyone wants characters in their campaign, sometimes at the complete expense of the storyline. Some stories just aren't suited to having characters in them. Inferno is one of them. Sure you could adapt the story to include characters but it just wouldn't be Inferno any more as far as I am concerned.

 

Offline General Battuta

  • Poe's Law In Action
  • 214
  • i wonder when my postcount will exceed my iq
I hate how AoA came out and now everyone wants characters in their campaign, sometimes at the complete expense of the storyline. Some stories just aren't suited to having characters in them. Inferno is one of them. Sure you could adapt the story to include characters but it just wouldn't be Inferno any more as far as I am concerned.

I completely agree with this. BP has the omg teal deers characters with feeeeeeeeeelings aspect covered, be something else. People will love you.

Inferno should only have spaceships not peoples

 

Offline Snail

  • SC 5
  • 214
  • Posts: ☂
Characters only work if there is a point to them. If there's no point to having characters in your storyline (ie. they're just there to be there [and occasionally die in a vain attempt to elicit an emotional response from the player]) don't put them in. All they are is dead weight and drag down the quality of the story (and gameplay too if you have to keep guardianing them).

 

Offline Jellyfish

  • 29
  • No relent
Just make Inferno the thing that required an entire new line of builds for FS_Open.  More ships, bigger lol-huge ships, and lots of pretty explosions.  I want to feel like I'm the main character in a Michael Bay movie.  No serious business.

Seconded. Explosions, raves and huge ships make Inferno Inferno.
"A weapon is only as powerful as its wielder. With this weapon, you'll be but an annoyance, which would greatly dishonor it. With this weapon, I can change history. With me, this weapon can shape the universe."

 

Offline MatthTheGeek

  • Captain Obvious
  • 212
  • Frenchie McFrenchface
Oh. I thought that's what made WoD WoD.
People are stupid, therefore anything popular is at best suspicious.

Mod management tools     -     Wiki stuff!     -     Help us help you

666maslo666: Releasing a finished product is not a good thing! It is a modern fad.

SpardaSon21: it seems like you exist in a permanent state of half-joking misanthropy

Axem: when you put it like that, i sound like an insane person

bigchunk1: it's not retarded it's american!
bigchunk1: ...

batwota: steele's maneuvering for the coup de gras
MatthTheGeek: you mispelled grâce
Awaesaar: grace
batwota: oh right :P
Darius: ah!
Darius: yes, i like that
MatthTheGeek: the way you just spelled it it means fat
Awaesaar: +accent I forgot how to keyboard
MatthTheGeek: or grease
Darius: the killing fat!
Axem: jabba does the coup de gras
MatthTheGeek: XD
Axem: bring me solo and a cookie

 

Offline Droid803

  • Trusted poster of legit stuff
  • 213
  • /人 ◕ ‿‿ ◕ 人\ Do you want to be a Magical Girl?
    • Skype
    • Steam
No, WoD only had one huge ship.
And it isn't huger than a gigas even.
(´・ω・`)
=============================================================

 

Offline NGTM-1R

  • I reject your reality and substitute my own
  • 213
  • Syndral Active. 0410.
Oh. I thought that's what made WoD WoD.

The Hertak have nothing on the HUEG that was the Icanus/Icanus shipyard/Gigas/Dante/Nemesis/Solaris/Odin/fivedestroyersinonemissionomg.
"Load sabot. Target Zaku, direct front!"

A Feddie Story

 

Offline MatthTheGeek

  • Captain Obvious
  • 212
  • Frenchie McFrenchface
I consider everything larger than a destroyer as huge - too huge actually. Were it 6km or 500km.
People are stupid, therefore anything popular is at best suspicious.

Mod management tools     -     Wiki stuff!     -     Help us help you

666maslo666: Releasing a finished product is not a good thing! It is a modern fad.

SpardaSon21: it seems like you exist in a permanent state of half-joking misanthropy

Axem: when you put it like that, i sound like an insane person

bigchunk1: it's not retarded it's american!
bigchunk1: ...

batwota: steele's maneuvering for the coup de gras
MatthTheGeek: you mispelled grâce
Awaesaar: grace
batwota: oh right :P
Darius: ah!
Darius: yes, i like that
MatthTheGeek: the way you just spelled it it means fat
Awaesaar: +accent I forgot how to keyboard
MatthTheGeek: or grease
Darius: the killing fat!
Axem: jabba does the coup de gras
MatthTheGeek: XD
Axem: bring me solo and a cookie

 

Offline Mobius

  • Back where he started
  • Moderator
  • 213
  • Porto l'azzurro Dolce Stil Novo nella fantascienza
    • Skype
    • Twitter
    • The Lightblue Ribbon | Cultural Project
I hate how AoA came out and now everyone wants characters in their campaign, sometimes at the complete expense of the storyline. Some stories just aren't suited to having characters in them. Inferno is one of them. Sure you could adapt the story to include characters but it just wouldn't be Inferno any more as far as I am concerned.

I completely agree with this. BP has the omg teal deers characters with feeeeeeeeeelings aspect covered, be something else. People will love you.

Inferno should only have spaceships not peoples

And I completely disagree, and for a variety of reasons. Let me address the issue:

1) The decision to add characters to Inferno preceeds the success of Blue Planet: Age of Aquarius. We simply haven't added them because of AoA, as the team realized the benefits they ensure well before the BP obsession;

2) Snail, from your past experience in the Inferno team you should know how characters are used in Inferno. They aren't compatible to the description of the average BP character, not even a little bit.

3) Campaign featuring characters =/= character-driven campaign.
Featuring characters is one thing, basing the entire plot on their feelings and actions is a completely different matter. You'll hardly hear them talk about personal lives and I don't even think you'll get to know their names.  There's no need for unnecessary comparisons when it comes to this standpoint.

4) More in general, if you think Inferno should be a shoot-here-and-there mod with no strings or memorable plot attached, you're in the wrong place.
The Lightblue Ribbon

Inferno: Nostos - Alliance
Series Resurrecta: {{FS Wiki Portal}} -  Gehenna's Gate - The Spirit of Ptah - Serendipity (WIP) - <REDACTED> (WIP)
FreeSpace Campaign Restoration Project
A tribute to FreeSpace in my book: Riflessioni dall'Infinito
My interviews: [ 1 ] - [ 2 ] - [ 3 ]

 
4) More in general, if you think Inferno should be a shoot-here-and-there mod with no strings or memorable plot attached, you're in the wrong place.
But that's exactly what INFR1 was!
17:37:02   Quanto: I want to have sexual intercourse with every space elf in existence
17:37:11   SpardaSon21: even the males?
17:37:22   Quanto: its not gay if its an elf

[21:51] <@Droid803> I now realize
[21:51] <@Droid803> this will be SLIIIIIGHTLY awkward
[21:51] <@Droid803> as this rich psychic girl will now be tsundere for a loli.
[21:51] <@Droid803> OH WELLL.

See what you're missing in #WoD and #Fsquest?

[07:57:32] <Caiaphas> inspired by HerraTohtori i built a supermaneuverable plane in ksp
[07:57:43] <Caiaphas> i just killed my pilots with a high-g maneuver
[07:58:19] <Caiaphas> apparently people can't take 20 gees for 5 continuous seconds
[08:00:11] <Caiaphas> the plane however performed admirably, and only crashed because it no longer had any guidance systems