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Title: Lizard, you ineffable asshole. (M5 spoilers)
Post by: LordPomposity on September 06, 2012, 06:40:16 am
(http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/4610/lizardisacylon.jpg)

Lizard, buddy, I get that you earned that callsign somewhere, but come on.
Title: Re: Lizard, you ineffable asshole. (M5 spoilers)
Post by: newman on September 06, 2012, 06:44:07 am
Yes, we did discuss the possibility of adding context-sensitivity to praise messages.
Title: Re: Lizard, you ineffable asshole. (M5 spoilers)
Post by: karajorma on September 06, 2012, 06:47:22 am
Hehe. We've been discussing upgrading the builtin messages feature to avoid stuff like that by having moods. i.e the pilots would have a general set of messages and then they have some for when they're angry, sad ,etc.

It would be a fairly big job but it would enhance the game no end, and prevent this kind of thing. :)
Title: Re: Lizard, you ineffable asshole. (M5 spoilers)
Post by: Sushi on September 06, 2012, 09:11:34 am
Love it, that's hilarious.
Title: Re: Lizard, you ineffable asshole. (M5 spoilers)
Post by: StarSlayer on September 06, 2012, 09:36:12 am
They were from Sagittarion, dead Sagies are always a hoot. :P
Title: Re: Lizard, you ineffable asshole. (M5 spoilers)
Post by: 0rph3u5 on September 06, 2012, 10:05:01 am
Originally: "The Colonial Fleet gave me the callsign "Lizard" ... now I cheer for the Toasters!"

"The Colonial Fleet gave me the callsign "Lizard" ... how could I not be cheering for the Cylons?"
Title: Re: Lizard, you ineffable asshole. (M5 spoilers)
Post by: NGTM-1R on September 06, 2012, 10:12:49 am
Lizard: not so secretly a cylon.

Hell at this point we might as well just assume the entire Theseus is crewed by Cylons.
Title: Re: Lizard, you ineffable asshole. (M5 spoilers)
Post by: Ace on September 06, 2012, 01:54:53 pm
I approve of the Lizard is a fraktard meme :)
Title: Re: Lizard, you ineffable asshole. (M5 spoilers)
Post by: StarSlayer on September 07, 2012, 03:05:11 pm
Props to whomever integrates Lizard into the Olympic Carrier scene.
Title: Re: Lizard, you ineffable asshole. (M5 spoilers)
Post by: newman on September 07, 2012, 03:16:47 pm
Quote from: StarSlayer on September 07, 2012, 03:05:11 pm
Props to whomever integrates Lizard into the Olympic Carrier scene.

Apollo: "I'll do a dorsal run on the Olympic Carrier. Starbuck, you take ventral"
Starbuck: "Come on, Apollo, that's a civilian liner!"
Lizard: "I'll do it!"
Apollo and Starbuck both at the same time: "Shut up, Lizard!"

 :D
Title: Re: Lizard, you ineffable asshole. (M5 spoilers)
Post by: Spoon on September 09, 2012, 08:27:19 pm
(http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/3114/reptilelizardsamesh1tdi.png)

I don't need your sarcasme, Reptile!
Title: Re: Lizard, you ineffable asshole. (M5 spoilers)
Post by: newman on September 10, 2012, 04:21:02 am
Even their callsigns are somewhat similar :P
Title: Re: Lizard, you ineffable asshole. (M5 spoilers)
Post by: Spoon on September 10, 2012, 07:46:26 am
(http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/1610/screen0188.png)
Turbo confirmed for cyclon too.
Title: Re: Lizard, you ineffable asshole. (M5 spoilers)
Post by: An4ximandros on September 10, 2012, 03:15:14 pm
Looks like pilot moods should get here sooner rather than later :P
Title: Re: Lizard, you ineffable asshole. (M5 spoilers)
Post by: newman on September 10, 2012, 03:33:48 pm
Why? It's more fun this way, and who are we to stand in the way of the young Lizard meme from developing? :D
Title: Re: Lizard, you ineffable asshole. (M5 spoilers)
Post by: Ace on September 10, 2012, 03:38:17 pm
Also, this is why we wanted muted performances from our VAs otherwise it'd be even worse than the praise self stuff in bad contexts becoming memes ;)
Title: Re: Lizard, you ineffable asshole. (M5 spoilers)
Post by: 0rph3u5 on September 10, 2012, 03:42:29 pm
@Spoon:
There is a 7 second delay your evidence incriminating Turbo ... no enought to frame him to be a Cylon

Are you trying to spread panic or something? ;)


EDIT: I'm currently trying to picture which Model of Skinjob Lizard is ...
Title: Re: Lizard, you ineffable asshole. (M5 spoilers)
Post by: Dragon on September 10, 2012, 03:49:19 pm
Right, that's suspicious. Maybe Spoon is actually a Cylon and just tries to distract us? :) Or maybe they're both Cylons. This also happened sometimes.
Title: Re: Lizard, you ineffable asshole. (M5 spoilers)
Post by: Rodo on September 10, 2012, 03:49:24 pm
I find it funny, let them be assholes dammit!
Title: Re: Lizard, you ineffable asshole. (M5 spoilers)
Post by: Alex Heartnet on September 10, 2012, 04:08:04 pm
I dunno.  M3 was a critical time for the Theseus.

Spoiler:
If any of the pilots were Cylons, they could of caused a great deal of damage even beyond what already happened.

The attack would of probably been timed to ensure that the Cylon pilot(s) were on CAP duty or otherwise up in the air when the initial sabotage occurred.  One Cylon in a viper would of meant that the Theseus would be down at least two birds - one of these losses being a Viper or Raptor switching sides, the other being the human-controlled Viper that gets shot down by a sneak attack from his 'wingman'.  Cue the boarding parties actually getting through due to a lack of vipers providing cover, and the Theseus getting captured instead of destroyed because doing so opens up interesting possibilities for the Cylons...

Memes aside, I doubt any of the pilots are/were Cylons.  M3 would of played out too differently if that was the case.
Title: Re: Lizard, you ineffable asshole. (M5 spoilers)
Post by: 0rph3u5 on September 10, 2012, 04:11:29 pm
Spoiler:
Weren't the Cylons in the 70's BSG fiction both the robots and a race of lizard (sic!) people how made them?

EDIT: future Lizard-cameo (http://i1020.photobucket.com/albums/af321/0rph3u5/OhNoItsLizard.jpg) may happen
Title: Re: Lizard, you ineffable asshole. (M5 spoilers)
Post by: Angelus on September 10, 2012, 04:41:03 pm
Quote from: 0rph3u5 on September 10, 2012, 04:11:29 pm
Spoiler:
Weren't the Cylons in the 70's BSG fiction both the robots and a race of lizard (sic!) people how made them?

Spoiler:
  Original Cylons were a insectoid race, created the Cylons and iirc, got wiped out by them. While the books tell, that the Cylons (insectoids) were using the Robots as a sort of intelligent Exoskeleton ( for the higher Cylons) and as disposable warriors ( like the Cylons in nBSG) and during the early stages of the 1000 Yahren war with the colonials and then got wiped out as the robots - becoming more and more sentient - felt that having some squishy parts with brains inside them, controlling their every move is a unbearable condition. 
Title: Re: Lizard, you ineffable asshole. (M5 spoilers)
Post by: Dragon on September 10, 2012, 04:50:34 pm
Quote from: Alex Heartnet on September 10, 2012, 04:08:04 pm
Memes aside, I doubt any of the pilots are/were Cylons.  M3 would of played out too differently if that was the case.
Consider how many important characters turned out to be Cylons in the show, ones that could've blown the Galactica up multiple times if they wanted to.
Title: Re: Lizard, you ineffable asshole. (M5 spoilers)
Post by: Dirt McStain on September 10, 2012, 06:39:56 pm
Spoiler tags are impossible to read on a frakkin iPad. Curse you all.
Title: Re: Lizard, you ineffable asshole. (M5 spoilers)
Post by: Ace on September 10, 2012, 07:20:28 pm
We kept it kinda vague on purpose, but unofficially (as the person who wrote M3 and the sabotage plotline :p ) it's a Simon who was aboard as a medic who was the one who planted the bomb.

As for Cylon infiltrators. There's a point of diminishing returns when there's only 12 models. There's also the fact that Cavil and his agents intentionally kept ships and places with the Five around (putting the beacon on Galactica, etc.). He wanted them do die of course, but slightly after everyone else.

Personally Galactica Cavil I think was part of a small faction of "frak the other Ones, kill them now I want to be away from the humans!" when "The Plan" was to allow a few survivors to be around the Five, show society disintegrate, then kill the humans, and finally welcome them back "See? Humans were bad!"

Then again, there's a lot of the post season 3 overall story and mythology that just doesn't work on inspection which is why we're sticking to things that feel more like the first two seasons.
Title: Re: Lizard, you ineffable asshole. (M5 spoilers)
Post by: David cgc on September 10, 2012, 08:40:07 pm
Quote from: Ace on September 10, 2012, 07:20:28 pm
We kept it kinda vague on purpose, but unofficially (as the person who wrote M3 and the sabotage plotline :p ) it's a Simon who was aboard as a medic who was the one who planted the bomb.

Question: How did the crew find out he was a Cylon, and not just a human turncoat? The best thing I can think of is that it happened the same way as in "Razor," and there were one or more Simons (or whichever model) in the boarding parties on the Heavy Raiders, but I'm assuming that if you aren't a distractible flailing idiot like me, it's possible to make it through the mission without the ship being boarded, which rules that out. And no mention is made of the gas giant's electronic interference being particularly bad for Cylons, like Ragnar's, so they didn't figure it out the way Adama did.

And, getting a bit further afield, I don't think the cylon transponders were intended for ships that were supposed to slip past, but were just to announce the presence of a Cylon agent. Galactica only made it though the miniseries because Tyrol's deck crew went above and beyond in restoring the museum ships, and Starbuck got in a fight with Tigh so she was in the brig rather than with the rest of the good pilots in the main squadron that got wiped out in the Mark VIIs. If Galactica hadn't had those antique fighters ready to go, or if they were all being piloted by bench-warmers, two raiders with nukes would've been more than enough to take down the ship.

Of course, figuring out why Doral or Boomer or whoever stuck the thing right in the middle of the DRADIS console in the CIC rather than hide it in a less conspicuous location, like literally any other place on the ship, is beyond even my considerable skill at fanwankery.
Title: Re: Lizard, you ineffable asshole. (M5 spoilers)
Post by: Ace on September 10, 2012, 08:46:14 pm
Basically it came down to:

"This person planted a big bomb, blew himself up, and contacted the Cylons!"

Since there's been no contact for the Cylons for 40 years... something is up.

In M4 there's speculation if you stay around and wait for the CAP to launch. The Theseus crew thinks that they are humans captured with Cylon brains put into them. They don't really know that they're skinjobs or that there are limited models.
Title: Re: Lizard, you ineffable asshole. (M5 spoilers)
Post by: David cgc on September 10, 2012, 08:57:45 pm
That still seems like an awfully big leap to get to "The Cylons look like us now." It's hard for me to believe that it's totally unheard of for the Cylons to have a human patsy (aside from Baltar). Even Helo briefly entertained the notion that a pair of identical twin sisters both sold out humanity before deciding that clones made more sense.

I'll just assume the Cylon gave a Leoban-style "reason you suck speech" (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheReasonYouSuckSpeech) when he was cornered. I mean, why not admit it? They were winning.
Title: Re: Lizard, you ineffable asshole. (M5 spoilers)
Post by: Ace on September 10, 2012, 09:01:59 pm
We kept it a bit vague on purpose for that reason, but such a speech probably occurred right before the bomb went off.

Now if the original cast wanted to lend their voices we could add that to an R1 patch ;)
Title: Re: Lizard, you ineffable asshole. (M5 spoilers)
Post by: David cgc on September 10, 2012, 09:05:30 pm
Hey, filter the radio enough, you can make Gilbert Gottfried pass for Adama. :p
Title: Re: Lizard, you ineffable asshole. (M5 spoilers)
Post by: jr2 on September 10, 2012, 11:01:00 pm
Quote from: Dirt McStain on September 10, 2012, 06:39:56 pm
Spoiler tags are impossible to read on a frakkin iPad. Curse you all.

hold-press over spoiler tag, then in popup menu, press "Select", then drag selection over spoiler?