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I recall that being the criteria under which it was acceptable to make a new thread. Anybody played it yet?
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Yep, was decent. They nerfed inferno ammo though, based on the demo it seems disruptor is the best general purpose ammo now. Combat is more fluid than before which is nice. Can't really say much about writing as the demo is short. Guess it's very much typical ME in that regard. It's a shame that the demo didn't cover any customization, like weapons. Would've been nice to see how they brought that back from ME1.
I still have ME3 on pre-order and I saw no reason to cancel it after playing the demo.
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I found the Demo funny.
When the Normandy comes in and howers for a full minute while Anderson and Sheppard chat - all the while sorounded by several reapers who seem to ignore the sitting duck of a warship.
And when it lifts off aaagonizingly slow..again sorounded by reaers...just so Shep can longigly look at the shuttles getting destroyed.
Shooty bits are fun, but the writing/story is Michal Bay level. Or the new ST movie level.
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I found all the "HOWDO YOU STOP SOMETINHG POEWFUL!!!!111" comments utterly hilarious. It's looking to be ****, but maybe it, just maybe it'll have a halfway decent story. :doubt:
They didn't even add the classic "enemy blocks out the sun" visual. So simple, yet so powerful when used right. Plus the Reapers seem more interested in blowing up humankind's parks than their "harvest humans" shtick. :nono:
Hell the Reaper noises are ripped from War of the Worlds. Hell, the Tripods would of done a better job than these mecha-cthulhu wannabes. :nod:
I can imagine it now: "Please, you must help us! The reapers are blowing up all our parks and something like 9 people have died! :lol:
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I can imagine it now: "Please, you must help us! The reapers are blowing up all our parks and something like 9 people have died! :lol:
We have little choice Commander, we have to nuke those Cities now before those Reapers kill any more people! Quickly Commander, the fate of the Galaxy is in your hands!!!
Yeah... I guess?
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Yes! Nuke em before more people die, uh... ------- -------- Die in a Fire! Die Die!
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Fireworks! Pretty!
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okay I played this
It's been a long tough road but I've adjusted my expectations for Bioware/Mass Effect writing down to the required level. I was still a little disappointed. The dialogue in this demo was trite and contrived; characters visibly broke from naturalism in order to utter MAJOR THEMES: anderson bloo blah we don't fight for the ones who die we fight for the ones still standing at the end
The dialogue choices Shep made might as well have been selected for you (and hey, they can be!) I can't think of a single conversation in the demo that branched in any meaningful way. If Choice A and Choice B both lead to Outcome C THAT'S THE PLAN SHEPARD!?!?!?!?!?!?! what's the point ugggggh Bioware just hire the entire Alpha Protocol writing team ****
It was pretty funny to watch them butcher their own lore. Check it out I'm a millennia old Reaper with impossibly advanced technology. gonna hover here and blow up literally one apartment at a time with my anti-ship weapons. what's that a frigate less than a kilometer away? sorry bros too busy killing apartments
keep chattin shep, just gonna kill some kids
keep chattin, i'm almost done
okay fly away, we won't bother tryin to intercept, see you at the end of the script
Getting the Normandy in and out of that city should've been about as difficult as the Iraqi Air Force airlifting Saddam out of Baghdad post-Invasion. The only way to make it plausible is to drop a cliche in: oh the reapers are inscrutable oh the reapers just aren't concerned with one frigate oh the reapers were busy harvesting people ghhhhhhhhhhhhhkkkkkkkkkk
Why the **** are you landing on Earth and stomping around and shooting things with these tiny little useless lasers you dumb Reapers jesus christ
All that said I enjoyed the gameplay, except for the ****ty cover system constantly getting me killed! I like the return of some of the ME1 complexity, I like that insanity is even harder.
This game's plot and dialogue writing are going to be the worst kinds of **** but I'm probably going to enjoy it anyway.
e: the fact that the man who wrote the most interesting science fiction in ME2 is no longer with bioware is probably a bad sign
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I bought the game for a fun, dumb, epick sci-fi advenshur. And a fun, dumb, epick sci-fi advenshur I shall have.
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Just in case this wasn't mentioned over the SP criticisms: The multiplayer actually is a ton of fun.
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Yes, it really is. Although there are only two maps available, the fact that it's a very fluid system that alternates between generic "kill all the dudes" and "do this objective while killing dudes" styles of gameplay, the level of customization that you can get through upgrades and new unlocked races makes it very rewarding.
In case you're wondering how it all works, this is basically it: You first create a character. At the beginning, you're locked into humans as the only available race, and you can choose any of the Mass Effect classes. During missions, you earn both XP and credits, XP unlock abilities as usual, while credits can be used to purchase equipment packs. There are two levels available, a recruit pack for 5k that holds 5 items, some of which may be uncommon (in the TCG sense of the word). These can be usable one-shot equipment, like Medigel shots, ammo reloads, rocket launcher ammo (Which you will fully appreciate when an Atlas appears), weapons, weapon customization items, or class/race combos. If you get a class/race combo you already have, you get bonus XP for that class.
Before going into a mission, you have the opportunity to adjust your loadouts, this uses the same mechanic that was hinted at for singleplayer where powers will recharge faster the less weight you carry around with you.
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Played SP on the 360
What Battuta said + that I absolutely hate the narrow zoomed in FOV the game has going. Makes me feel like im playing the game with horse blinders on.
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agree with the above. The levels seem less linear now, even though they still are. more stuff in them I suppose. Adrenaline rush seems slightly buffed from the last game, though i miss the color wash out and sound distortion. I couldn't always tell if i was actually doing anything when using it or not. the leveling system is interesting. I don't know if it actually makes characters more diverse or not. seems just like the last system with a little bit more tacked on. The multilayer is fun tho. no complaints there. The characters seem. . .a little. . .outa character. Wrex and Anderson mostly. biggest thing that bugs me. why would shepherd let himself be sidelined and go "soft"? just doesnt fit
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Yeah, as is well known, I don't give a flying **** about games beyond a certain skin-depth, but I have to say that a) I'm not liking the direction they're going with it art-wise (it looks darker and contrived and as a result...just a bit wrong. The second level had some nicer aesthetics going on [brah]). **** the new cover system. Combat was fun as hell apart from that though, and I hope conversations get a tad more complex, as was earlier pointed out.
**** it looks fun, will buy. :D
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I have played it and i enjoyed it, i nearly cried at the scene with the kid mixed with Clints amazing soundtrack. Roll on the 9th of march!!! yeah it seemed abit linear but i hope thats just because its the demo, regardless i reckon i will enjoy the full game, i like the new darker art direction.
This would of made a good launch trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWjPRsYZlFw&list=FLbWnm38z2POJfpiXTkKF0OQ&index=2&feature=plpp_video
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clicked demo download button. next screen had "ORIGIN" at the top. immediately closed the browser window.
looks like i'm not playing it.
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clicked demo download button. next screen had "ORIGIN" at the top. immediately closed the browser window.
looks like i'm not playing it.
What's wrong with Origin?
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With some luck, it'll end up on Steam one day, then get a 50% (or better) price cut on a big sale. Then I'll be getting it.
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clicked demo download button. next screen had "ORIGIN" at the top. immediately closed the browser window.
looks like i'm not playing it.
What's wrong with Origin?
What ISN'T wrong with Origin?
I'm still pissed off about having to use that to play DAO: UE, when I haVE THE FSKING DISCS. :mad:
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Origin is just like Steam. The actual differences between the two, as far as the end user is concerned, are a different UI skin and ....
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actually, no and.
EDIT: Strange, my copy of DAO:UE does not require Origin at all.
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I i nearly cried at the scene with the kid mixed with Clints amazing soundtrack.
I thought this point was well done, but to me it felt slightly forced. It serves a literary point, to underline that you as commander shepherd cant do anything for the people on earth, but the "you can't help me" line just seemed unreal. I would think a traumatized kid would either reach out for help or run away from it, not pan out like it did.
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"it's just like steam" is TERRIBLE support. steam can **** off too.
there is NO reason to force origin on us other than as a vector for ad spam and data mining. i'm not helping EA do that.
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Origin is just like Steam. The actual differences between the two, as far as the end user is concerned, are a different UI skin and ....
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actually, no and.
EDIT: Strange, my copy of DAO:UE does not require Origin at all.
It appears to occupy a different and slightly larger space on my hard disk.
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Try out sandboxie to limit Origin's access on your harddrives. This way you prevent Origin from scaning your system and so no vital infos are sent to EA.
Google will help you find a good guide for it.
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Seems like that the
shivans reapers got a hold of a some sreds
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If those were Sreds, there'd be a hell lot more destruction than blown-up parks. :rolleyes:
EDIT: They also wouldn't sound so goddamn wimpy when they fire.
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Origin is just like Steam. The actual differences between the two, as far as the end user is concerned, are a different UI skin and ....
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actually, no and.
EDIT: Strange, my copy of DAO:UE does not require Origin at all.
It appears to occupy a different and slightly larger space on my hard disk.
And despite having Steam as a template, failed so hard at providing core features at the start which it had no excuse for, because unlike Steam was, it wasn't experimental.
Anyways, my origin ID is RavenholmeCP42 if people want to add me for SpecOps fun at some point
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http://www.cinemablend.com/games/EA-Says-Origin-Isn-t-Spyware-Although-It-Does-Scan-Your-Entire-PC-36690.html
Does EA screw you over with Origin? Frankly, no idea... but as I read it you still are kind of allowing them to screw you over if they ever want to. ;)
In any case... they still violate German Privacy Law (confirmed by several lawyers, also been in the news) and are currently being sued by our version of the BBB (Verbraucherzentrale): http://www.pcgames.de/Battlefield-3-PC-221396/News/Battlefield-3-und-Origin-EA-von-Verbraucherzentrale-abgemahnt-Streit-wird-im-Extremfall-vor-Gericht-ausgetragen-857147
The thing people are wondering about due to EA's reaction to the Verbraucherzentrale is sort of like this: Well dear EA, if you don't want to all the evil things people are worried about you could just sign this "cease and desist" that says you won't... right?
Since EA didn't sign... and is still in violation of German privacy laws, this will likely go before court.
And frankly... at this point, no matter what EA's actual intentions towards spying on their customers are, now it's more or less a fact that they kinda like being major a**holes that don't give a flying f*** about the law of the countries they operate in.
Over 3000 1 star comments on Amazon is also kinda telling as to how "successful" Origin is in winning the hearts of their customers (http://www.amazon.de/EA-Battlefield-3-Limited-Edition/dp/B004M17DVM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1329653607&sr=8-1) I don't think there was a company in the games industry in Germany that was hated that much since Starforce.
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"it's just like steam" is TERRIBLE support. steam can **** off too.
there is NO reason to force origin on us other than as a vector for ad spam and data mining. i'm not helping EA do that.
Although origin is not ad spamming me as much as Steam is, and Origin is ALSO NOT DATAMINING
I have NO idea where that "DATAMINING" bull**** came from, but it has been thoroughly disproved by CT Magazine (a german computer magazine). Basically, all the scans origin does are the ones it is ordered to do by windows: Windows always scans your programdata folder when it wants to make a secure connection. It's the result of scanning for licenses. No actual data is collected (And personal data should not be in programdata in the first place...)
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So I played the demo today.
I like it. The combat really feels a lot "heavier" then ME2's did, which is a good thing to me. That is probably DICE's involvement. Although the "kid" thing was a bit over sympthatic, it is good to see things like Shepard being shell-shocked and... well... a little bit more vurnrable then last time around. She (I played as female for the demo) feels a bit more human, although I understand they did have to tone down the dialogue choses to bring that accros..
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There are actually more dialogue options in the full game as opposed to the demo sequence. Many of them were indeed taken out for the demo.
According to Bioware, at least.
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Unfortunately, none of those choices can change the plot. :/
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So I played the demo today.
I like it. The combat really feels a lot "heavier" then ME2's did, which is a good thing to me. That is probably DICE's involvement. Although the "kid" thing was a bit over sympthatic, it is good to see things like Shepard being shell-shocked and... well... a little bit more vurnrable then last time around. She (I played as female for the demo) feels a bit more human, although I understand they did have to tone down the dialogue choses to bring that accros..
Yeah, the whole "little kid dies" plot point is way overdone, but I do like that they're trying to portray Shep as a human being. It's one of the reasons I thought Lair of the Shadow Broker was the best DLC for ME2, hands down. The scene at the end where Shep shows a little vulnerability and a little humanity just really brought it all together for me. One can only be a stoic badass for so long before it all breaks down.
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Okay, so I have this, and MP is fun. You can hit me up as SpardaSon21 on Origin if you're interested in some of the MP.
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Thats why they come every 50.000 years, thats the time it take them to destroy civs one planet at the time.
Just blow up the sun already!
If those were Sreds, there'd be a hell lot more destruction than blown-up parks. :rolleyes:
EDIT: They also wouldn't sound so goddamn wimpy when they fire.
You right, they seem more like SAAA.
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this played like fan fiction
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this played like fan fiction
That tells us precisely nothing.
Are you talking about My Immortal or Methods of Rationality?
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If you want my opinion, it played as badly as both.
Serious.
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Well, we are now all aware that you have not read Methods of Rationality. Thanks for clearing that up.
The point was that not all fanfiction is bad. You might want to amend your statement.
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That tells us precisely nothing.
oh obviously i was referring to the good one
Don't be obtuse. You knew what I meant. The series is becoming a parody of itself.
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Don't be obtuse. You knew what I meant. The series is becoming a parody of itself.
No, honestly did not. I'm working on not prejudging work by its source.
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haha, touché
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Played through the single player demo last night, Overall I like it but I do have a few gripes. Any one else feel that the facial animation has gotten worse between 2 and 3? I get the impression that I'm watching a film dub in the cutscenes as the mouth movements just don't seem to line up quite right. The new cover system seems to be hypersensitive, I find myself leeping around when all I wanted to do was look around the side. Maybe I'll get used to it with time but man that was annoying. The artwork is a whole lot better than it was in 2, it looks like they paid at lot of attention to the environment. The backround visuals are note worthy enough to almost be a distraction and each area seems to be sculpted this time around instead of the slapping together of random panels to get the levels layout. For the worst examples of this see any of the side quest in 2 especially those found in it what appear to be junkyards. The dialogue didn't seem as cheesy as it was in 2 but it still was a bit cheesy, though the sample was too small to get a full impression of what the whole game may be like. Hopefully I won't be cringing every time Shepard opens his/her mouth this time around. It bothers me a bit that they have this amazing deep story to work with and they keep inserting these cheesy lines that are completely unnecessary. Hopefully we won't see as much of that as we did the last time around. I understand that this is just a demo most of which was showcased over six months ago, I'm hoping they have spent time pollishing things up and have not spent all their time on the multiplayer aspect of the game.
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this played like fan fiction
That tells us precisely nothing.
Are you talking about My Immortal or Methods of Rationality?
those are both terrible
let's discuss why methods of rationality is bad now (eliezer's blog is p. cool though)
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ITT: General Battuta's definition of bad extends all the way to the 95% percentile.
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what are the chances someone will crack the demo for non-origin use?
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what are the chances someone will crack the demo for non-origin use?
99999%?
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What would be the point? Cracking the Demo would presumably break the most fun aspect of it, namely the multiplayer.
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those are both terrible
let's discuss why methods of rationality is bad now (eliezer's blog is p. cool though)
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what is significant about it? all i got from google was that it is a harry potter fanfic that 'transcends the medium' or something
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/sigh, the worst part is that I can see it coming already: Earth will be saved and the Reaper problem will be solved, all thanks to Captain Obvious and his gang who found the glorious deus ex machina in time.
Or since it's Bioware, it's prolly gonna be worse... and be some "unite the races of the galaxy" quest *AGAIN* where all the supposedly wimp races *together* suddenly are able to defeat the oh so powerful evil Reapers that have been busy destroying Earth's parks with their red flashlights for the last years.... /groan.
Mass Effect 1 was solid world building with a cool (if short) mainstory (and utterly crappy sidequests that shall not be mentioned)
Mass Effect 2 had great side stories and characters and little to no main story... and what little it had was rather stupid as a sequel.
At this point I just hope that the train wreck that appears to be Mass Effect 3's main story will have some saving grace lol.
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/sigh, the worst part is that I can see it coming already: Earth will be saved and the Reaper problem will be solved, all thanks to Captain Obvious and his gang who found the glorious deus ex machina in time.
Or since it's Bioware, it's prolly gonna be worse... and be some "unite the races of the galaxy" quest *AGAIN* where all the supposedly wimp races *together* suddenly are able to defeat the oh so powerful evil Reapers that have been busy destroying Earth's parks with their red flashlights for the last years.... /groan.
Mass Effect 1 was solid world building with a cool (if short) mainstory (and utterly crappy sidequests that shall not be mentioned)
Mass Effect 2 had great side stories and characters and little to no main story... and what little it had was rather stupid as a sequel.
At this point I just hope that the train wreck that appears to be Mass Effect 3's main story will have some saving grace lol.
I'm actually thinking the deus ex machina will be the Geth. They've been isolated and left alone for a long time, and could have dedicated all of their resources to building massive fleets. So, like you said, unite the races of the galaxy, Quarians and Geth make peace, Geth fight Reapers, Reapers lose, Shepard spouts one-liners, has snark battles, gets it on with a crew member, and there you have it.
Not to say I won't enjoy it if it's well written. really, there's only so many places the story could rationally go from the end of ME2.
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ITT: General Battuta's definition of bad extends all the way to the 95% percentile.
that is actually a pretty fair accusation, i will not dispute i am being perhaps unfairly snobbish
i am the 99 percent...ile
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what is significant about it? all i got from google was that it is a harry potter fanfic that 'transcends the medium' or something
it's a really interesting didactic exercise in counter-worldbuilding wherein harry potter is trained in logic and math and shreds the harry potter setting by rationally applying its rules to break everything
it is a great exercise, a fun (if smug) read, and a useful illustration of the power of scientific reasoning, but also a pretty bad piece of fiction, and too often used by people who misunderstand harry potter's narrative mission
bringing this back around to your point about mass effect 3 feeling like fan fiction, yeah, it does kinda feel that way, as if they've reduced mass effect to a caricature of mass effect. i'm getting psyched to hold my analog stick/mouse up and to the right and press the 'paragon' option over and over: real consequences, emotionally engaging
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Just finished the demo. Not entirely sure what to think, largely I think in part because I'd seen this accursed thread before playing it :p. So, observations and impressions!
At any rate, the combat seems to be channeling Gears even more, except that it's actually pretty frenetic. I personally like the changes to the cover system, and feel that the gunplay at least is solid- run' n gun might actually be half-viable now, despite Shep's frailty compared to ME1 (Immunity hax ftw). I did observe what appeared to be weapon/armor upgrades, I cannot make many conclusions based just on the demo, but it looks like my crack, upgrading, is going to be a thing. The expansion of skills pleases me, ME2 skill trees just felt so... limited.
The game seemed to be moving really quickly, graphics-wise; that's probably a consequence of my upgraded machine. Not a complaint, simply an observation.
And the elephant in the room- the story and characters. I'll reserve judgment for now. I know, I know, that's really kind of a cop-out, but I'm not going to heap praise or derision on a sci-fi RPG epic based solely on ~20 minutes of gameplay. Especially when most of that gameplay was filled with asplosions and gunfighting.
To address some points raised earlier in the thread:
*Yes, the characters did seem a little flatter and more awkward, but that might be confirmation bias seeping in (assholes).
*Perhaps the Reapers didn't melt Earth to slag from orbit because they're sadistic and complacent; they believe themselves invincible god-machines, and have all the time in the world to leisurely slaughter and terrorize their prey.
*(corollary of previous) So, because of that laziness, the Normandy simply kept a low profile and didn't dally in Earth airspace, and thus managed to not get vaporized by the Reapers! [/pointlessspeculation]
I think the most appropriate metaphor for the direction Mass Effect has taken could be drawn from one of our own most beloved projects here on HLP: the Blue Planet saga, except in reverse. AoA has been described as a "kickass hellyeah adventure", where WiH has been described as "brutal... gritty...". Before anybody rips me to shreds, that's only my opinion and I recognize that it's an imperfect metaphor, but the TONE of the entries seems to correspond.
I will however, close by mentioning that I probably am going to pre-order it, both because I want free ****, and because I am in fact excited for this release, even after playing the demo. The demo probably isn't the best representative of the final product, and whether that's good or bad I won't be the judge of.
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a fun (if smug) read,
a pretty bad piece of fiction
No work of fiction that is enjoyable has entirely failed.
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/sigh, the worst part is that I can see it coming already: Earth will be saved and the Reaper problem will be solved, all thanks to Captain Obvious and his gang who found the glorious deus ex machina in time.
Or since it's Bioware, it's prolly gonna be worse... and be some "unite the races of the galaxy" quest *AGAIN* where all the supposedly wimp races *together* suddenly are able to defeat the oh so powerful evil Reapers that have been busy destroying Earth's parks with their red flashlights for the last years.... /groan.
Spoilers ahead!
It's number 1. You get the Deus Ex Machina from Mars (together with the Prothean squaddie and sexbot EDI), right after you leave Earth. Oh, and you imediately find out the TIM found a way to use that super-machine to indoctrinate all reapers and he wants to make the reaeprs into humantiites army, thus enesuring human supremacy.
The game doesn't let you agree with TIM, and he turn into Saren Mk2 (together with the similar end), but Shep still gets the option to destroy the reapers or do exactly what TIM wanted...
In other words, everyone in the galaxy suffers a case of extreeme stupid.
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*(corollary of previous) So, because of that laziness, the Normandy simply kept a low profile and didn't dally in Earth airspace, and thus managed to not get vaporized by the Reapers! [/pointlessspeculation]
But the Normandy didn't keep a low profile and it did dally in Eaths airspace.
It was howering within visual range of a dozen reapers with a big "SHOOT ME NOW" sign on it for an eternity.
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It is perhaps good to standardize some basic definitions like "good" or "bad". A piece of literature may be bad but still worth reading, for instance, according to GB's definition. And I don't mean the Mein Kampf "bad book" that's worth reading (in excerpts) for the historical context and significance, I mean like a diversionary pleasure, like watching trash TV once in a while.
Mass Effect (2/3) fall into the latter category. It's just a fun game. Nothing groundbreaking, it won't win any awards for its writing, the plot will be fairly forgettable, but at least it will be fun.
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there's also the "so bad it's entertainingly funny." let's hope ME3 doesn't sink THAT low.
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It is perhaps good to standardize some basic definitions like "good" or "bad". A piece of literature may be bad but still worth reading, for instance, according to GB's definition. And I don't mean the Mein Kampf "bad book" that's worth reading (in excerpts) for the historical context and significance, I mean like a diversionary pleasure, like watching trash TV once in a while.
Mass Effect (2/3) fall into the latter category. It's just a fun game. Nothing groundbreaking, it won't win any awards for its writing, the plot will be fairly forgettable, but at least it will be fun.
yeah, i agree with this. don't get me wrong, i'm probably going to have this game day one
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Shepard ... gets it on with a crew member
(http://koti.mbnet.fi/reiler/yeah.png)
Actually, whatever Bioware did or did not, I'll buy ME3. I'll just wait for some sales or surprise discounts (that actually applies to all my game purchases).
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Jeff Vader, isn't this cheap enough? http://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/product/29576/cxnkj/Mass-Effect-3-PC-peli-kuljetus-kaupanpaalle-alv-0
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is that a holographic omni-tool..... KNIFE on the cover? :wtf:
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Jeff Vader, isn't this cheap enough? http://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/product/29576/cxnkj/Mass-Effect-3-PC-peli-kuljetus-kaupanpaalle-alv-0
I was thinking <30e. Preferrably even <20e.
is that a holographic omni-tool..... KNIFE on the cover? :wtf:
Yes!
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Omni-blades, yeah. Used for heavy melee for most non-Krogan, non-Biotics.
The game is going to be a lot of fun. Plotwise it may be stupid, but most fun games are at least a little stupid. But the mechanical improvements are looking to me like they'll bring back ME1's depth with ME2's playability.
Plus, the multiplayer is about 100 times more fun then it has any right to be, and even the limited demo creates awesome moments. I've had a Cerberus lackey about to stomp on my head and finish me, only to watch his head vanish courtesy of the squad's infiltrator. Saved a teamate with Stasis when a Nemesis' blade was descending on his neck. And popped more heads then I care to count.
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i really like the mass effect codex(es), i just wish i could play a game based on them
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Wow, I just fired up another play through of 2 and I was right about the speech animations. They are god awful by comparision and I also noted that the body movements aren't as fluid either. Here is hoping that they have polished this up prior to release.
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Plus, the multiplayer is about 100 times more fun then it has any right to be, and even the limited demo creates awesome moments.
I've seen two surviving members of my team defending themselves in the prefab house, situated in the corner. They were so focused on one side, they didn't notice a Phantom (or whatever it's called in english version) sneaking through the other entrance. Two silent executions, 5 seconds apart. They didn't know what hit them.
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If any of you fine people want a few rounds of ME3 multi with somewhat less unknown internet people, just find hlp_the_e on Origin.
Seriously, the multi is unbelievably good. Finally got myself a salarian infiltrator and a quarian engineer today.
BTW, it is advisable to always save up for the "Veteran" packs; the drop rate for alternate race/class combos in recruit packs is abysmal.
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is anybody here playing this on the 360?
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Granted I have not partaken in the demo, and I'm sure there is plenty to hem and haw about and lots of spiral hammyness to go round. One thing I did assume is that the Reapers are more interested in collecting thralls then outright annihilation, at least for the species they want to assimilate for this cycle, so long as they can achieve grid superiority, collateral damage is probably kept to a minimum. In other words they probably can crack planets open but for the purpose of assimilating, subduing the local threats with minimal weapons output and simply allowing Indoctrination to runs its course is the objective.
Perhaps I'm being an apologist but I think the above seems reasonable.
Also I saw the fancy new trailer (http://www.ign.com/videos/2012/02/21/mass-effect-3-take-earth-back-trailer-full-length), I was happy to see Ash is wearing full body armor instead of a Miranda catsuit, though she always struck me a practical enough woman to wear her hair tied back.
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I've seen two surviving members of my team defending themselves in the prefab house, situated in the corner. They were so focused on one side, they didn't notice a Phantom (or whatever it's called in english version) sneaking through the other entrance. Two silent executions, 5 seconds apart. They didn't know what hit them.
Yeah, Phantoms. Damned things are nasty. I've entirely shelved the human adept in favor of the Asari, simply because Stasis works on those things but Singularity doesn't.
Kind of sucks that we'll lose all our unlocks in the full version. But I imagine it's probably gonna get major balance tweaks anyway - the Carnifex in particular is stupid overpowered, and I expected we'd end up with the entire community using nothing but that and the one superpowered shotgun without major nerfs.
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Wow, I just fired up another play through of 2 and I was right about the speech animations. They are god awful by comparision and I also noted that the body movements aren't as fluid either. Here is hoping that they have polished this up prior to release.
I hope people are still at least punching their palms.
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is that a holographic omni-tool..... KNIFE on the cover? :wtf:
Yeah, Ezio called, he wants it back.
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hooooooooly **** multiplayer is fun
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In defense of Bioware it came across to me hard that the parts with competent writing - the character writing, the only thing these writers are really good at - just weren't shown in the demo at all. I'm not worried.
And multiplayer is awesome.
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hooooooooly **** multiplayer is fun
Awwwww yeah. Got a Quarian Engineer in my starter pack- so much better than any of the basic classes.
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Play with us. We hang out on IRC mostly. Join us there.
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Awwwww yeah. Got a Quarian Engineer in my starter pack- so much better than any of the basic classes.
So far, second only to the Asari Adept.
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Webcomic related:
(http://threepanelsoul.com/comics/2012-02-14-225.jpg) (http://threepanelsoul.com/2012/02/14/on-space-puns/)
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hooooooooly **** multiplayer is fun
Multiplayer? In my RPG?
Singleplayer is all I'm interested in.
If I want multi, I'll play TF2 or soemthing...
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that's cool thanks for sharing your opinion here on hard light productions
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Also I saw the fancy new trailer (http://www.ign.com/videos/2012/02/21/mass-effect-3-take-earth-back-trailer-full-length), I was happy to see Ash is wearing full body armor instead of a Miranda catsuit, though she always struck me a practical enough woman to wear her hair tied back.
That's...snazzy.
Also, a note on the writing, the character pieces are important. Hell, they NEED to be important and well written. But, if the larger narrative framework is shoddy or hackneyed then it loses something along the way. And this feels like the larger narrative is being used to setup a bunch of cool looking, but neverthless pointless setpiece backdrops for Shep and Co. to bumble around in while the Alliance and the rest of the galaxy sit there like a bunch of misty-eyed school girls with they're hands clasped ot their chests waiting for him to save the day.
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/sigh, the worst part is that I can see it coming already: Earth will be saved and the Reaper problem will be solved, all thanks to Captain Obvious and his gang who found the glorious deus ex machina in time.
Or since it's Bioware, it's prolly gonna be worse... and be some "unite the races of the galaxy" quest *AGAIN* where all the supposedly wimp races *together* suddenly are able to defeat the oh so powerful evil Reapers that have been busy destroying Earth's parks with their red flashlights for the last years.... /groan.
Spoilers ahead!
It's number 1. You get the Deus Ex Machina from Mars (together with the Prothean squaddie and sexbot EDI), right after you leave Earth. Oh, and you imediately find out the TIM found a way to use that super-machine to indoctrinate all reapers and he wants to make the reaeprs into humantiites army, thus enesuring human supremacy.
The game doesn't let you agree with TIM, and he turn into Saren Mk2 (together with the similar end), but Shep still gets the option to destroy the reapers or do exactly what TIM wanted...[/u
In other words, everyone in the galaxy suffers a case of extreeme stupid.
Expect the Prothean Squad member is a day 1 DLC 'From The Ashes'
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might want to spoiler that
he has a kickin' rastafarian accent, i'm not even kidding
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Are you people serious?!?
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yes
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**** me, this game is going to suck donkey balls.
still gonna play it.
also, i have to say, as a side note, between ME1 and ME2, i ****in loved ME1's gameplay a whole lot more. ME2 feels a lot more of a dumbed down version for consoles.
i find myself furiously tapping E to interact with **** -.-
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If there is, indeed, a Prothean squaddie. I will have lost ALL respect for Bioware as competent, never mind great storytellers. If there is a Prothean squaddie it will have invalidated the sacrifices of the survivors from Ilos as recounted by Vigil.
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As someone who's never manged to beat the first Mass Effect, can I get basic spoilers of what happens past Virmire?
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I did hear there was a Prothean ally you can recruit. It sounds really cool because he has ancient Prothean knowledge, possibly. Or you can gleam what the Prothean Empire was like from his views, if he remembers that is. ;p
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I did hear there was a Prothean ally you can recruit. It sounds really cool because he has ancient Prothean knowledge, possibly. Or you can gleam what the Prothean Empire was like from his views, if he remembers that is. ;p
the whole concept is feckin retarded.
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If there's a Prothean ally (I hope there isn't as the Protheans are all ****ing dead), he needs to be a complete psychological wreck after his own species got murdered by the Reapers, then turned into the Collectors making him the only one left.
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he's a jamaican
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Well, damn. Were the character developers all high when they decided to come up with a Jamaican who happens to be a member of an extinct species?
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he really is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixk9ORP-U28
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Well, the good news is that it's not a default part of the game. Jar-jar Binks will cost you an additional $10 - don't pay it.
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My faith in humanity is dead, not only is there a Prothean squaddie, the rumors about EDI having a body are also true...we are doomed as a species. Our stupidity decrees it.
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that's cool thanks for sharing your opinion here on hard light productions
You're welcome. :P
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I did hear there was a Prothean ally you can recruit. It sounds really cool because he has ancient Prothean knowledge, possibly. Or you can gleam what the Prothean Empire was like from his views, if he remembers that is. ;p
the whole concept is feckin retarded.
Wait till you hear his philosophy.... :lol:
Bio has become sooo predictable in their formula to always give you extra-rare squaddies. Why is it that your party in any Bio game looks more like a commercial for a United Colors of Benetton or a traveling circuis/zoo, than an actual squad of pros?
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You couldn't tell they more Rainbow Coalition than they are United Badasses? Looooong gone are the days where the crack of a tentacle rod made you fear the coming of the driders at Bioware. Sadly.
It reminds me of a meme pic I saw the other day comparing the movie heroes from when I was coming up, IE Clint Eastwood as the Man with No Name and contrasting him with the "heroes" of today in the form of that sparkly, emo git of a vampire Jacob.
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I did hear there was a Prothean ally you can recruit. It sounds really cool because he has ancient Prothean knowledge, possibly. Or you can gleam what the Prothean Empire was like from his views, if he remembers that is. ;p
And you can propably make him dance like the Geth crew member...
You couldn't tell they more Rainbow Coalition than they are United Badasses? Looooong gone are the days where the crack of a tentacle rod made you fear the coming of the driders at Bioware. Sadly.
It reminds me of a meme pic I saw the other day comparing the movie heroes from when I was coming up, IE Clint Eastwood as the Man with No Name and contrasting him with the "heroes" of today in the form of that sparkly, emo git of a vampire Jacob.
But.... Batman? ;)
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omg an optional part of the game i do not have to play has ruined it FOREVER i need to go TO THE INTERNETZ
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My faith in humanity is dead, not only is there a Prothean squaddie, the rumors about EDI having a body are also true...we are doomed as a species. Our stupidity decrees it.
I have a shocking revelation: You don't have to use the Prothean. Or get the DLC.
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Also, I listened to the voice samples and they are GLORIOUS.
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I have a shocking revelation: You don't have to use the Prothean. Or get the DLC.
There is no JarJar Binks, there is no JarJarBinks, Phantom Menace doesn't exist, there is no JarJar Binks, there is no... :)
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My faith in humanity is dead, not only is there a Prothean squaddie, the rumors about EDI having a body are also true...we are doomed as a species. Our stupidity decrees it.
I have a shocking revelation: You don't have to use the Prothean. Or get the DLC.
True, but sexbot EDI is still there. Cobra-levle Cerberus and TIM are still there. Stupid lines are still there. Plot holes are still there.
And, even if you don't play the DLC - it is officialy part of the setting.
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this thread is getting ****ty again
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My faith in humanity is dead, not only is there a Prothean squaddie, the rumors about EDI having a body are also true...we are doomed as a species. Our stupidity decrees it.
I have a shocking revelation: You don't have to use the Prothean. Or get the DLC.
Or get ME3, for that matter.
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True, but sexbot EDI is still there. Cobra-levle Cerberus and TIM are still there. Stupid lines are still there. Plot holes are still there.
And, even if you don't play the DLC - it is officialy part of the setting.
Good, you won't be getting it then, you can exit the thread.
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hey here are some multiplayer build tips for the classes i've done so far:
VAN GUARD: you can play this class as sort of a tactical 'front runner', sort of a 'forward disruptive element', as if you were the 'vanguard' of your 'fire team', it has 'good effect' on 'targets'
-just use the katana, it's for good vanguards
-don't bring an SMG, it's for bad vanguards
-weight is your enemy, you need to travel as light as you can
-put all your points into the two passives and biotic charge. your tactical capabilities depend on your ability to recharge your barrier by charging.
-use the vanguard flowchart, as follows:
-am i charging? if no, go to step 2
-CHARGE
-SHOTGUN
-goto 0
KROGAN SOLDIER
-I AM KROGAN
-FOR TUCHANKA
-*headbutt*
general tips:
IF YOU SEE A TURRET
-call the adept
-call the dudes with the widows
IF YOU SEE AN ATLAS
-call the dudes with the widows
IF YOU PLAY WITH GUYS WITH WIDOWS
-get out of the way
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still mostly applicable
(http://s1.postimage.org/4yljyao8a/ME2_vanguard_gentleman_s_guide.png)
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http://youtu.be/Ri0vrJ-y2zM?hd=1
a brit talking about what he thinks of how the DLC is being handled for ME3
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Good, you won't be getting it then, you can exit the thread.
Oh dear, the "if you don't like a part of X, then why are you even here infidel/heretic?" response.
What shall I ever do when confronted with such impecable reasoning? Oh dear, oh my!
@Battuta - great chart! :lol:
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hey here are some multiplayer build tips for the classes i've done so far:
VAN GUARD: you can play this class as sort of a tactical 'front runner', sort of a 'forward disruptive element', as if you were the 'vanguard' of your 'fire team', it has 'good effect' on 'targets'
-just use the katana, it's for good vanguards
katana? No Gravity Hammer? Vanguard needs a Gravity Hammer.
Search your feelings, you know it to be true.
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here are things everybody knows by now
-the plot is going to be full of dumb things
-preorder dlc is stupid
-biodrones are creepy
let's set these issues aside and focus on having a good thread
katana? No Gravity Hammer? Vanguard needs a Gravity Hammer.
Search your feelings, you know it to be true.
if you write 'gravity hammer' on the krogan's forehead it works pretty much the same way
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hey here are some multiplayer build tips for the classes i've done so far:
VAN GUARD: you can play this class as sort of a tactical 'front runner', sort of a 'forward disruptive element', as if you were the 'vanguard' of your 'fire team', it has 'good effect' on 'targets'
-just use the katana, it's for good vanguards
-don't bring an SMG, it's for bad vanguards
-weight is your enemy, you need to travel as light as you can
-put all your points into the two passives and biotic charge. your tactical capabilities depend on your ability to recharge your barrier by charging.
-use the vanguard flowchart, as follows:
-am i charging? if no, go to step 2
-CHARGE
-SHOTGUN
-goto 0
KROGAN SOLDIER
-I AM KROGAN
-FOR TUCHANKA
-*headbutt*
general tips:
IF YOU SEE A TURRET
-call the adept
-call the dudes with the widows
IF YOU SEE AN ATLAS
-call the dudes with the widows
IF YOU PLAY WITH GUYS WITH WIDOWS
-get out of the way
This be truth y'all.
A few further notes:
Quarian Engineer:
-Spec your turret with cryo ammo and a flamethrower. Instant flanker-in-a-box. Note that you can have only one turret active, so
-Travel light. An assault rifle (like the Mattock) is all you need
-Also, incinerate ALL THE THINGS
Salarian Infiltrator:
-Energy Drain. Level it, steal other people's shields, or straight-up vampire them
All Infiltrators (Sniper builds):
-Your flowchart should be Cloak -> Shoot -> Reload -> Cloak. Throw in grenades/energy drains every now and then to mix things up.
Infiltrators (Backstabby builds):
-Get a shotgun.
Asari Adepts:
-Stasis, especially stasis bubbles, are the number one thing to use against Phantoms. Couple with a good pistol and a pistol scope, and watch how the infiltrators on your team will not get any headshots.
Vanguards:
-The barrier recharge you get from a charge will work quite nicely together with the asplodeyness of the nova.
Human Soldiers:
-If you are not adrenaline rushing, you are doing it wrong
-Grenades are there to be thrown
GENERAL ADVICE
If anyone complains about killstealing vanguards, you're doing it wrong. Be glad you have a vanguard buddy to draw the attention away from you and concentrate on getting objectives done and softening up targets for your vanguard to take down
Keep your missile launchers for emergencies. A single Atlas is not an emergency, just a particularly tough and slow target. An Atlas with a Phantom running around it is a worthy kill.
The Widow AMR can overpenetrate targets. Get more kills per shot. Also, you can fire through the shields Guardians use. If you have a high-level Infiltrator, you can kill an Atlas in 2 or three shots.
The Revenant is a really useless piece of heavy crap. Unless you have a rifle scope. Then it's just mediocre.
http://youtu.be/Ri0vrJ-y2zM?hd=1
a brit talking about what he thinks of how the DLC is being handled for ME3
Watched it. Up to the point where he starts into his rant with the words "The game shipped incomplete". This is, to put it simply, wrong. The way it went down is, ME3 was finished in January. It then got handed off to the certification process necessary for all console releases; a process that takes roughly 2 months. During that time, in addition to doing all the final testing and stuff, a part of the team created this DLC.
Also, it's DLC. Noone is forcing you to buy it, noone is even forcing you to acknowledge its existence.
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Oh dear, the "if you don't like a part of X, then why are you even here infidel/heretic?" response.
What shall I ever do when confronted with such impecable reasoning? Oh dear, oh my!
Far be it from me to ever say that. I argue against it quite often.
Rather you've repeatedly informed us you hate this, so, seeing as how you hate it, it makes sense you're not getting it and have deleted the demo and thus have nothing left to contribute to a thread about the game. Because you're not playing it. Because you hate it.
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Oh dear, the "if you don't like a part of X, then why are you even here infidel/heretic?" response.
What shall I ever do when confronted with such impecable reasoning? Oh dear, oh my!
Far be it from me to ever say that. I argue against it quite often.
Rather you've repeatedly informed us you hate this, so, seeing as how you hate it, it makes sense you're not getting it and have deleted the demo and thus have nothing left to contribute to a thread about the game. Because you're not playing it. Because you hate it.
Except I didn't say that. I said I hate the writing/plot that I've seen so far.
Since when does that constitute as "hating the whole game and not wanting to play it?"
Another classic example of you putting words in my mouth cause you have a chip on your shoulder.
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stop ****ting up the thread with these ****ty posts
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Except I didn't say that. I said I hate the writing/plot that I've seen so far.
Since when does that constitute as "hating the whole game and not wanting to play it?"
Another classic example of you putting words in my mouth cause you have a chip on your shoulder.
Yes, there is a difference between bashing the writing and bashing the game. However, since you have been bashing said writing quite strongly, the assumption that you would not be buying this game is easy to draw. If I had such strong opinions about a story-driven game prior to release, I certainly would invest my 50€ elsewhere.
In addition, as noted in the previous thread, you are NOT BRINGING ANY NEW FACTS INTO THE DISCUSSION. You keep repeating your talking points ad nauseum. We get it, you think the story sucks. And I can certainly see why someone would come to that conclusion. However, at this point, all you are doing is just doing the broken record thing over and over again, which we are quite sick of.
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A few facts about the DLC (straight from a source I know in Bioware):
1. It was started after the completion of the rest of the game content.
2. It was intended to be post-launch DLC.
3. They finished early and decided to make it day-1 DLC.
4. Putting it in the game would have delayed the release by several weeks due to reprinting, certification, etc.
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still mostly applicable
I'm guessing that was made for ME2 originally? It's bang-on. I say this as a career Vanguard (I actually haven't played any other class because I'm too busy and too lazy to replay the whole game just to get a different class experience).
I must say, ME2's addition of the Charge ability made the class so much better, and it was already near the top end of awesome. Maybe I need to suck it up and get Origin to play the demo for multi.
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You can use Sandboxie - http://www.sandboxie.com/. I'm not sure how effective it is, but I'm using it, just in case. There is a custom dll which should discourage Origin from looking where it isn't supposed to - http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=4885
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A few facts about the DLC (straight from a source I know in Bioware):
1. It was started after the completion of the rest of the game content.
2. It was intended to be post-launch DLC.
3. They finished early and decided to make it day-1 DLC.
4. Putting it in the game would have delayed the release by several weeks due to reprinting, certification, etc.
flimsy.
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Only somebody with little to no knowledge of how games publishing works would say that.
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can we talk about mass effect 3 in this thread and make a drm/dlc/digital distro/game prices megathread or something
i think there are genuine issues and definite reasons to be annoyed at bioware/ea but i don't know if we'll really have a productive discussion about them here
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Yes, there is a difference between bashing the writing and bashing the game. However, since you have been bashing said writing quite strongly, the assumption that you would not be buying this game is easy to draw. If I had such strong opinions about a story-driven game prior to release, I certainly would invest my 50€ elsewhere.
In addition, as noted in the previous thread, you are NOT BRINGING ANY NEW FACTS INTO THE DISCUSSION. You keep repeating your talking points ad nauseum. We get it, you think the story sucks. And I can certainly see why someone would come to that conclusion. However, at this point, all you are doing is just doing the broken record thing over and over again, which we are quite sick of.
Keep your assumptions to yourself then, as there is nothing "easy to draw". Only what you want to see.
Oh, and I have brought new facts - such as story tidbits. But whatever. I can see you don't want me here.
You may carry on with your drooling. I'm out.
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No Trashman, bringing new story bits up is not "bringing in new facts". It's just reiterating old facts over and over again.
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I'll say it again, the very concept of a Prothean squaddie obliterates the value of the Prothean sacrifice 50,000 years prior. Add to that the fact that he's a rasta jackass with a stick up his posterior and it's just too much...
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look i don't think this is anything but kind of silly but uh
why does it invalidate anything
some asshole got left in a cryo tube in mars, that seems perfectly believable, and it's not like plus or minus one asshole really makes a difference to a whole civilization getting wiped out
forget da reapers man get some of this fine herb
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But if the cyro systems in the redoubt on Ilos weren't up to the task of functioning for 50,000 years, how did one(s) on Mars manage it? Also, I don't care how badass he is, given the audio I've heard, he'd be a cancer in the squad and completely unacceptable in a high pressure environment, like a mission to save the universe.
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the Ilos cryo systems were shut down so that they had enough power to keep the vital systems (like the VI) functioning to complete their mission
keeping one douchebag alive when there's little else to power in a totally separate facility is probably easier
also, uh, listen buddy, i have some news for you: people from a certain part of the world talk like that whether they are pothead smokers or the most professional military officers you have ever met. just because you've heard this accent primarily in cool runnings and wow trolls doesn't mean it's not genuinely the way a part of the world talks, dreadlocked rastas and clean-cut soldiers alike
unless you mean something about the actual content of his dialogue which sounded pretty fine by bioware standards? he wasn't like liara talking about the sand in his snatch or anything
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yeah i just listened aside from his accent he's pretty much standard generic alien i don't see why he's a cancer
dude sounds like he saw some ****
honestly i'm a little impressed they didn't just decide aliens would sound like white people with an echo filter a la protoss and eldar and everybody else
e: mind this is 'impressed' by bioware standards
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bioware why the christ would you make something as huge as a prothean character dlc
it doesn't make any ****ing sense
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Wasn't commenting on the content of the average Jamaican/random Carribean islander character. I'm speaking specifically to the content of the dialogue in the link provided earlier in the thread. He's depressed that his race is dead and is arrogant about how they used to do things. He'd be a cancer in the unit by obliterating morale saying how "we're all doomed anyway!"
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Hey, Han survived 3PO saying that every four minutes in Empire without killing his morale. :D
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new story bits
reiterating old facts .
does not compute.
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the Ilos cryo systems were shut down so that they had enough power to keep the vital systems (like the VI) functioning to complete their mission
keeping one douchebag alive when there's little else to power in a totally separate facility is probably easier
also, uh, listen buddy, i have some news for you: people from a certain part of the world talk like that whether they are pothead smokers or the most professional military officers you have ever met. just because you've heard this accent primarily in cool runnings and wow trolls doesn't mean it's not genuinely the way a part of the world talks, dreadlocked rastas and clean-cut soldiers alike
unless you mean something about the actual content of his dialogue which sounded pretty fine by bioware standards? he wasn't like liara talking about the sand in his snatch or anything
It better be a heck of a lot more then "A little" easier. Ilos was a major research facility, with the kind of power systems that implies, and it still had to turn off nearly everyone after a few hundred years. This guy would've been in Cryo for 50,000 years.
Plus, the timing. Dear god, the timing. He goes into hypersleep to avoid death at the hands of omnicidal robots, and sets his alarm to wake him up.... when those same omnicidal robots come back for the next round? "You know, I'm gonna sleep through this apocalypse, but wake me up for the next one."?
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remember what happened to omni-gel
that process seems to have repeated itself on prothean technology
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He's depressed that his race is dead and is arrogant about how they used to do things. He'd be a cancer in the unit by obliterating morale saying how "we're all doomed anyway!"
i'm not saying you're wrong but it is a bit late to start thinking about crew dynamics
in the last game we had among other things a notorious murderer, a krogan super-soldier with the mind of a child and an enemy robot
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new story bits
reiterating old facts .
does not compute.
It does. We all know that *generic bad guy here* is a bad guy. This is an old fact. Bringing in new examples of that he is a bad guy is still reiterating an old fact, as it adds nothing to what we already know.
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He's depressed that his race is dead and is arrogant about how they used to do things. He'd be a cancer in the unit by obliterating morale saying how "we're all doomed anyway!"
i'm not saying you're wrong but it is a bit late to start thinking about crew dynamics
in the last game we had among other things a notorious murderer, a krogan super-soldier with the mind of a child and an enemy robot
In my ME2, Jack is reformed and about as respectable as she can get. Don't misunderstand, she's still and all-powerful *****, but she's mellowed being around Sheperd and coming to understand that the violence and rage doesn't have to control her.
Grunt NEVER had the mind of a child, only the heart of one.
And Legion was never an enemy, he saved my life twice before I said one word to him, only your anti-synthetic prejudice paints him as an enemy. His people were wronged by the Quarians just as much, if not more than they wronged the Quarians, they only protect the space they occupy now out of a sense of self preservation because the organics would wipe them out if they didn't.
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i've had enough of your disingenuous anti-synthetic prejudice ransom!
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To continue our series about proper ME3 multiplayer, here's a few thoughts on Silver and Gold matches.
SILVER:
-Only enter into these matches with either a high-level character, or with friends. You do not necessarily need to coordinate with others, but that heavily depends on the other players not derping around. Personally, I would not want to try silver with someone whose N7 level is below 10. The N7 level is the combined class level across all characters, somebody with a level of 120 would have all 6 classes levelled to max, for example.
-If you have to choose between targets, refer to this handy guide:
Phantoms > Turrets > Combat Engineers > Nemesis > Atlas > Centurions > Assault Troopers
To explain, Phantoms need to be killed as fast as possible, due to their speed and instakill abilities. Turrets will lock down areas and kill you extremely fast. Engineers plant turrets, kill them before they can plant more. Nemesis and Atlases seem scary, but can be avoided pretty easily, while Centurions and Troopers are just annoying.
-Do NOT ignore grenades.
GOLD:
-Communication is ESSENTIAL. If you cannot voicechat, don't even try this level.
-Min character level should be 15+
-On Gold, you cannot hang around near the LZs. On the two maps available, the best positions to hole up in are:
-In the city, directly ahead across the plaza, near the landed hovercars
-On Noveria, basically the other end of the map.
-ALWAYS call out the more dangerous enemy types
-You need equipment. Better ammo types, ammo bonusses, all of it.
-You need upgraded weapons, whether upgraded basic weapons or the extra guns
-What I said before about missile launchers and Atlases? Goes double here. You have 8 missile launchers on the team. Getting 4 or more Atlases on the map will happen fairly soon.
-It is strongly recommended to have AT LEAST one Asari adept with an upgraded Stasis power on the team. You NEED them to lock down Phantoms
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I'm going to enjoy the game very much if i wanted a detailed story line i'd rather read a book or play Planescape: Torment
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honk
my point is it's a mismatched, unprofessional crew and a prothean with morale issues is hardly out of place
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I'm going to enjoy the game very much if i wanted a detailed story line i'd rather read a book or play Planescape: Torment
So you are saying that for anyone who wants to have a detailed storyline Bioware games are now crap? lol ;)
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(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17eig06xukt8apng/original.png)
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I'm going to enjoy the game very much if i wanted a detailed story line i'd rather read a book or play Planescape: Torment
So you are saying that for anyone who wants to have a detailed storyline Bioware games are now crap? lol ;)
i think he's more saying that for anyone who wants an actual storyline without the glaring gibbering plotholes should really go find something else. both bioware and EA are milking this **** for all its little worth.
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In my ME2, Jack is reformed and about as respectable as she can get. Don't misunderstand, she's still and all-powerful *****, but she's mellowed being around Sheperd and coming to understand that the violence and rage doesn't have to control her.
Grunt NEVER had the mind of a child, only the heart of one.
And Legion was never an enemy, he saved my life twice before I said one word to him, only your anti-synthetic prejudice paints him as an enemy. His people were wronged by the Quarians just as much, if not more than they wronged the Quarians, they only protect the space they occupy now out of a sense of self preservation because the organics would wipe them out if they didn't.
Dude, most of your crew and two of your squadmates are provided by WHATIFBILLGATESANDWARRENBUFFETWERENGOSPACENAZIS
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<extremely awesome image>
You deserve a hug.
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2012/02/24/why-the-exploitation-of-gamers-is-our-own-damn-fault-2/
Apparently even Forbes picked this up
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Some of you gonna hate me for this - but all possible endings have been leaked (complete with screenshots).
DO NOT READ THE FOLLOWING IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO GET SPOILED/DISAPONTED
- shepard always dies, no matter what.
- a total of 6 endings (3 variations of destroy the reapers, 1 merge with reapers, 2 control the reapers)
- all mass relays get destroyed, no matter what.
- Normandy gets zapped to another part of the galaxy, crashlands on a planet. The epilogue is narrated by the descendants of the crew, who created a colony??? (with a crew of 50???)
- there's a ragestorm on BSN, as apparently nothing makes sense:
- Some space magic causes everyone to magicly become synthetic in the merge ending
- everything related to EZoo is gone. No more biotics
- people magicly teleport around to be on the dessired location
- the Citadel is alive and is the reaper master control unit(?????)
- the reapers are morons of unbelievalbe caliber. They move the citadel to Eath orbit, close it and soround it with their fleet. It is impregnable and they control all mass relays. And not only do they NOT shut down the relays and let Sheps fleet in, they also deliberately build a back door to citadel (like the conduit) on Earth that circumvents all of their defences. Why? So they could bring humans on the citadel to build a new reaper...even toughy they have a million ships and the citadel is parked over Earth. What the derp????
I could go on, but won't....
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Those endings do sound quite awesome indeed.
Quick-reading through the omg rage threads on BSN (and god do I feel stupider for doing so), I think the problem is that people were thinking they were playing Gurren Lagann, not Mass Effect.
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Those endings do sound quite awesome indeed.
Quick-reading through the omg rage threads on BSN (and god do I feel stupider for doing so), I think the problem is that people were thinking they were playing Gurren Lagann, not Mass Effect.
Dude, Gurren Laggan makes more sense that this.
Yeah, a lot of people are raging because they can't get their "and they lived happily ever after ending" with their waifus, but that is not the real probblem (or a problem at all. I for one prefer a sad/bittersweet ending).
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No "and they lived happily ever after" ending ?
Yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ALwKeSEYs)
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No "and they lived happily ever after" ending ?
Yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ALwKeSEYs)
Correct.
Only "WTF is this s***!???" endings
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hahaha that's ****ing awesome
we know all along that the reapers were going to be ****ing idiots because they've been written that way since ME1 and bioware is bad at them
i am more pumped now
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Hmm, it suspiciously seems to lack a sequel hook. Unless they resurrect Shepard again for ME4, that is.
Somehow, I don't think that ME3 could flop enough to kill this cash cow.
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The storyline started in ME1 ends in ME3. If there will be ME4, it will be completely different story. No Shepard. It is pretty much guaranteed there will be other games in the same ME universe, there's no stopping milking the cow.
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Please, dear god, let it all be lies.
I don't mind a bittersweet ending. But those are all awful, and not in a "How terribly sad" way - just a "Who the hell thought this was a good idea?" way.
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I'm reading just those unspoilered parts, and I've realized one thing - waiting for the price of ME3 to get lower will be damn hard.
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Somehow, a happy "everything will be alright" ending would never fit the impossible odds that are set up in the intro. I have not read the spoilers though... I wouldn't know - But I geuss the choices are basically "Everyone is ****ed" or "Earth is ****ed"...
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no shepherd, you are the reapers
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I still want to withdraw the Alliance Fleet and nova the Sol System with Haestrom dark energy, immolating the majority of the Reaper fleet and leaving a remnant small enough for the combined Council races to annihilate.
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The storyline started in ME1 ends in ME3. If there will be ME4, it will be completely different story. No Shepard. It is pretty much guaranteed there will be other games in the same ME universe, there's no stopping milking the cow.
Don't forget we're talking about EA, and Shepard is popular. BioWare might agree with you, but the execs may not.
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Hmm, it suspiciously seems to lack a sequel hook. Unless they resurrect Shepard again for ME4, that is.
It's been done before.
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Hmm, it suspiciously seems to lack a sequel hook. Unless they resurrect Shepard again for ME4, that is.
It's been done before.
Since when has that ever stopped anyone?
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Since when has that ever stopped anyone?
...that wasn't my point. They've already demonstrated they're willing to.
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Lordy...the BSN forums are a riot.
(http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/file.php?40,file=33115,filename=Popcorn.gif)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Rc8k_D3yYoE/Tw4IyOKMysI/AAAAAAAAAls/awgasVzJMfA/s1600/Stephen-Colbert-Popcorn.gif)
(http://www.goozex.com/community/cfs-filesystemfile.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Discussions.Components.Files/22/8360.g_2D00_popcorn.gif)
It's friggin gold entertainmet and the game isn't even out yet!
I went from:
Oh wow. These endings are strange. ~~~~> Oh god, the Normandy...the INCEST ~~~~~> OH GOD BROODMOTHERS ~~~~> Don't care anymore. ~~~~~> Why are these plot holes gaping vortices? ~~~~~~> Oh well. Don't care about this story at all. ~~~~~~> O WOW ASHLEY HAHAHA WELL PLAYED BIOTIC SEX ~~~~~> Oh man. This place is going to be consumed by fire. ~~~~~~> Oh well.
What happens to Liara?
Please tell me it's gruesome! :D
She is on the Normandy when it get's thrown to nowhere land, even if you brought her with you fort he final battle. She get's teleported to the Normandy somehow. -_-
Is it wrong to experience so much schadenfereude?
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This is going down as one of the great moments in trolling.
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Extra! Extra! Read all about it!
(http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz196/newman1702/766c61d0b5da480eb087ccf25e192a670.jpg)
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I don't hate BioWare....
And it ain't trolling you troll...Well, not unless you define trolling as "saying stuff I dont' like".
And boy..the time you spent making that image...that's some dedication/fanaticism/insanity you got going there...
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Are we just letting unspoilered spoilers fly now? This is getting a bit much
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And it ain't trolling you troll...Well, not unless you define trolling as "saying stuff I dont' like".
Sorry, I should have been clear. I did not mean that you are trolling. But I do have the feeling that there is a certain amount of trollish exaggeration going on in BSN.
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Oh, most defiantely....
Just recently the news popped up that you can see Tali's face.
Complaints of all kind have already started...
EDIT: BSN just changed their forum policy...far more stricter.
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I'm starting to think think that Trashman is trolling you all.
I bet he can't wait the mass effect 3 release date and is actually camping at local game store waiting for the moment....
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NOoOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! My Deepes, darket secret!!!!
And I would have gotten away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids and your dog!
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Uh, anyone want to play the demo this weekend? I'll try to make a point of it to be on IRC.
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Yeah. Been playing it for a while - FinalRandomness is my Xbox gamertag. Just send me a message or party invite. I live in Straya though, so expect me to likely not be there on Sunday. I only stay up late on Friday and Saturday nights.
EDIT: BTW, My highest ranked characters are my level 18 Vanguard and my level 12 Salarian Infiltrator. Got the Quarian engineer, but she's not really good enough for anything but bronze. Yet. Oh, and I would prefer silver and bronze matches. Don't want to play Gold. Too many SPAYSS NINJAHS.
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Uh, anyone want to play the demo this weekend? I'll try to make a point of it to be on IRC.
Sure.
Oh, and BritishShivans: Most of us are on PC.
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Sadface. Well, eh. It doesn't matter. And no, I will NOT install Origin on my computer. Until EA demonstrates it can make something that isn't:
A: ****, and doesn't work very well most of the time
B: Doesn't have stupid, paranoia-fueled DRM
Then I will download Origin. Or buy EA games with DRM. I don't need a repeat of that Spore debacle where viruses successfully destroyed my computer due to SecuROM having administrator access for whatever godawful reason.
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Your paranoia amuses me.
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I'm just unwilling to take the chance. EA's policy on DRM doesn't seem to have changed. And Origin is still too buggy for my liking.
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Maybe I'm blind but i can't see the problem people are having with Origin isn't it exactly same as steam? but unlike steam the origin seems to be at beta stage still
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Maybe I'm blind but i can't see the problem people are having with Origin isn't it exactly same as steam? but unlike steam the origin seems to be at beta stage still
i think it has more to do with the fact that people trust Valve, as opposed to EA.
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Launch Trailer (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/launch-trailer-mass-effect/727512)
Sure it will likely be hammy, but least it looks like it will be spiral with delicious honey maple glaze and sugar coating. :P
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It's just frakkin awesome sauce. I see most people hate the endings, but I have managed not to spoil myself too badly and I will make it till the end of it unscathed. I won't expect a marvel plot (not Bioware's stronger point) concerning the reapers. Ever since the conduit plot that my expectations aren't that high anyway ;) (not that it is a plot hole, it's just anticlimatic).
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Don't know what the ending will be but it's all out galactic scale war against a vastly superior enemy there can't be a happy ending with pink bunnies and such
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Launch Trailer (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/launch-trailer-mass-effect/727512)
Sure it will likely be hammy, but least it looks like it will be spiral with delicious honey maple glaze and sugar coating. :P
what is TIM's plan anyhow? other than "HUMIES ROOL ALIENZ DROOL!"
that bit just felt a bit out of place in that trailer.
/me goes back to finish ME2...
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Ok so a happy ending is out
But is it too much to ask for an ending that doesn't result in disaster or the end of humanity?
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Ok so a happy ending is out
But is it too much to ask for an ending that doesn't result in disaster or the end of humanity?
Definitely. Because no ending can be enjoyable if humanity isn't eliminated.
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omg Multiplayer is sooooooo adicting!!! :D
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Please try and keep the spoilers down... It is enough for me that I should look to a "Freespace Happy Ending"...
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Freespace isn't happy enough. Humanity is still there at the end, unfortunately.
omg Multiplayer is sooooooo adicting!!! :D
You'll see, it becomes less addictive once all your classes are at level 20 and your veteran packs don't give you anything 90% of the time because you've already unlocked all the uncommons :/
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Yeah, that 'random' unlock system has its disadvantages. I've received the same race/class combo five times in a row, even when the class was at max level and with no locked customization options left.
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Of course, it probably won't be so bad when the full game launches. Considerably more unlockables available, and we're still not entirely sure how promotion to the single player war works.
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So, good and bad news:
Bad news is that the multiplayer demo will be killed on monday.
Good news is that, until then, drop rates for class/race combos have been increased, and that that increase will carry over to the full game.
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and that that increase will carry over to the full game.
...seriously ?
Have they given any reason why ? Doesn't make much sense to me.
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I presume Bioware noticed common complaints about the unlock system, so instead of deeper redesign, they've changed one value somewhere.
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Launch Trailer (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/launch-trailer-mass-effect/727512)
Sure it will likely be hammy, but least it looks like it will be spiral with delicious honey maple glaze and sugar coating. :P
My god, that was hilarious. Played with the right attitude, this game is going to be awesome.
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Launch Trailer (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/launch-trailer-mass-effect/727512)
Sure it will likely be hammy, but least it looks like it will be spiral with delicious honey maple glaze and sugar coating. :P
My god, that was hilarious. Played with the right attitude, this game is going to be awesome.
I totally agree. There was genuinely awesome **** in there and then there were death to bioware lines like 'Everyone has to be ready to die! If you can't do that, you might as well be already dead!'
thanks shep, you're the smartest
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That game is a 80s-era B serie movie with sh*tty one liners. We all know we're gonna enjoy it nevertheless :p
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That's exactly what makes ME so enjoyable. It felt great to drop down on the planet, crawl up a mountain in the MAKO (nevermind the bounce) and zoom in on the anomaly/enemy compound/whatever of the week. Then promptly ride down to investigate. I liked the retro feeling it had, acting like Captain Kirk was awesome. :) Of course, that was the first part, I didn't played ME2 yet.
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The endings have been finally leaked on YouTube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maiYNvq-m28
And here's an entire channel dedicated to a ME3 playtrough. (Already??)
http://www.youtube.com/user/Rockkkyyyyyyyyyyyyyy/feed
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that's more spoilers than i want in a thread not specifically dedicated to spoilers
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to be fair trashman did specifically say it was the endings and it's not like you are compelled to click on the link or anything
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*grumble grumble* stupid machines r bad melodrama *grumble grumble*
I don't know if that was supposed to be Luddite or Anit-Luddite
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*grumble grumble* stupid machines r bad melodrama *grumble grumble*
I don't know if that was supposed to be Luddite or Anit-Luddite
Tell me you're lying.
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to be fair trashman did specifically say it was the endings and it's not like you are compelled to click on the link or anything
you don't understand the suffering of my mass effect 3 selective alien hand syndrome
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to be fair trashman did specifically say it was the endings and it's not like you are compelled to click on the link or anything
you don't understand the suffering of my mass effect 3 selective alien hand syndrome
Then I suggest you avoid interent and any ME3 related discussion, cause spoilers will pop up. It's the nature of the beast.
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If those were Sreds, there'd be a hell lot more destruction than blown-up parks. :rolleyes:
EDIT: They also wouldn't sound so goddamn wimpy when they fire.
Looks like a valid reason to make a FS2 beam sound mod for ME3 (If possible of course).
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"This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by EA."
Oh EA, never change.