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Offline StarSlayer

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Re: Re: Where Have You Seen Diaspora Mentioned?
I'm still blowing them up. There's such thing as Extended Edition you know. And a sequel. And prequels.

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Offline eps200

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With infinite manpower and time the big changes I think a few of us would want to do based on the feedback is revamp the old GUI and make the control configs idiot proof:
i.e. FS type options buried one more menu down but have in the pretty new GUI three defaults:
Keyboard mouse
Joystick
Gamepad

Then spend a bunch of time optimizing the three separate default control configs for players.

So... *cough* scripters and 2d artists... find us... *cough*

This IMO was my only real gripe. I used to be on the team for eternal silence which is a space sim/ fps hybrid on the source engine because of that our controls were all K+M with the joysick being a niche option I can go grab up all our conclusions/fails if it would be helpful in making a nice set of defaults. Main thing is keeping qwer and asdf clear for flying thankfully you don't need to squeeze in a "get out of ship" button.
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Offline Cerebus

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A and D for roll.  W and S for throttle.  Q and E for target enemy and target reticule.  Tab for afterburners and space for glide when pressed.  The default settings had to go.

 

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Offline torc

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Re: Bad review(er)s. SPLIT FROM: Where Have You Seen Diaspora Mentioned?
I always think some people have ''hide and not clear'' intentions making a review or a comment  pretty negative without testing the game.

In the MTBS 3d forums they have an Oculus rift thread, where some people criticizes Palmer (the Rift creator) continously....than he discover that their IP address cames from a competitor company Light years far away from what Palmer is doing.

I think that could explain pretty much everything...maybe is not the same thing, but people can't admit that Diaspora is an High level product...especially you think is a freeware game. it should not to be perfect, but a lot of commercial games sucks 1000 times than this IMO.

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Re: Bad review(er)s. SPLIT FROM: Where Have You Seen Diaspora Mentioned?
I bet bigpoint and the BSG online team are going around trashing the game lol 


 

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Re: Bad review(er)s. SPLIT FROM: Where Have You Seen Diaspora Mentioned?
I bet bigpoint and the BSG online team are going around trashing the game lol

I doubt that.
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Exactly. Our point of view was that BSGO and Diaspora are completely different styles of game.

All the huge publicity around Diaspora has shown is that perhaps there is a market for a space shooter after all, despite the large assumption that there isn't.
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Re: Bad review(er)s. SPLIT FROM: Where Have You Seen Diaspora Mentioned?
Exactly. Our point of view was that BSGO and Diaspora are completely different styles of game.

All the huge publicity around Diaspora has shown is that perhaps there is a market for a space shooter after all, despite the large assumption that there isn't.

certainly the number of critic comments that Diaspora is the game that BSG fans have been waiting for in terms of quality and play style would support that
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Oh I agree, but I'd probably play the hell out of a good standalone BSG RTS too. And there's no reason I'd see one of those as competition for Diaspora.
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Offline Cerebus

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Re: Bad review(er)s. SPLIT FROM: Where Have You Seen Diaspora Mentioned?
I believe there's a sins of the solar empire mod, but it didn't impress me last I looked...I'll have to give it another look see

I'm a level 4X in BSG:Online, I play because it's the first game I've been able to get my wife to play with me, and I've actually got a small wing that lans, so I'm familiar, and yeah, it's a very different market. 

That being said, the pay 2 play model doesn't pay off in the slightest.  In my opinion the game is abhorent and cheaply done.  They (bigpoint) seem to be sucking what they can of the BSG license (because no one would pay to play it otherwise) without any intent on building a lasting community.  They seem to be cashing out and the scuttlebut is that Universal isn't happy about it.  They've got some new project manager (I think the last was relieved) and they've been throwing loot at the players going sorry sorry, trying to keep people playing, as Universal is thinking about pulling the license or such.   I know they could do much better.

You did. 

their model should have been EVE from the start, I dont know wtf they were thinking.  MMO, not some cheap browser pay 2 play
« Last Edit: September 28, 2012, 04:18:51 pm by Cerebus »

 

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Re: Bad review(er)s. SPLIT FROM: Where Have You Seen Diaspora Mentioned?
If I was in Univeral's shoes and looking at making another BSG game, I wouldn't go for a MMO again; there are universes that lend themselves better to that game type. There is a lot of untapped potential here and I just know BSG fans would love to experience the BSG universe from a perspective of a colonial marine, fighting centurions, or from the viewpoint of a colonial commander, managing and commanding his battlestar group from the CIC, sort of bridge commander like only more complex and better executed. Hell, maybe even a RPG - with 12 colonies and three periods (first cylon war, second war and the period in between) there's a lot of potential game settings there.
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Re: Bad review(er)s. SPLIT FROM: Where Have You Seen Diaspora Mentioned?
http://techreport.com/news/23535/diaspora-offers-battlestar-galactica-space-combat-for-free

I find the comment that the graphics are underwhelming a bit surprising but... *shrug*
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Re: Bad review(er)s. SPLIT FROM: Where Have You Seen Diaspora Mentioned?
We got a few negative comments from other sites too, but mostly the feedback was hugely positive with the main drawbacks being those we've started trying to fix already (poor default control config, lack of multiplayer, etc).
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Offline Cerebus

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Re: Bad review(er)s. SPLIT FROM: Where Have You Seen Diaspora Mentioned?
1. mix diaspora with planet side

2. profit

 

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Congratulations, you just missed the entire point of Battlestar Galactica.
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Offline Cerebus

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congratulations, you seem to be stuck inside a box


a persistent large scale war is the main idea of planetside, that's what I meant. 

 

Offline yuezhi

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i think Cobra is talking about step 2.
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Offline lavish

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...poor default control config...).
The control config is somewhat messy, though I can live with it. I would, however, at least recommend to clean it up and remove any unused commands, unless it's really possible to augment forward shields in the game.  ;)

 

Offline eps200

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A and D for roll.  W and S for throttle.  Q and E for target enemy and target reticule.  Tab for afterburners and space for glide when pressed.  The default settings had to go.
Went with something like this but most players had Q and E as roll or thrust left thrust right. Shift as afterburner as FPS tend to put sprint there, r and f as thrust up and down .
Cycling targets was on the scroll wheel with mouse 3 target in reticle.

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