[Trivial Psychic]

You can edit the MOI in Modview.  To prevent weird actions due to improperly set MOI, you can either import the values from a tried and true ship, like one from FS2, or you can edit the values to make them all equal zero... which is what all existing TBP models are set to.

[Kazan]

since people posted: i'm back in school now and i may get some work in on pcs2 between cs309 project ****e and playing vanguard

[Kazan]

massive thread necromancy

anyone who's requests i haven't integrated into the plan, pls repost

[takashi]

table generator and a "finalize" button?

(decides tables based on gunpoints and other crap, then creates a .tbm file when you select "finalize" along with, of course "which primary/secondary weapons would you like it to use" text boxes.)

[Getter Robo G]

Instead is needlessly complicating additional features (like the above), how about a tentative release date of a version that can save to file (in case I missed it) understanding it could be months or more down the road.

[Kazan]

Instead is needlessly complicating additional features (like the above), how about a tentative release date of a version that can save to file (in case I missed it) understanding it could be months or more down the road.

right now it can open POF files, and resave them - just most of the editor UIs are not active yet- and COB loading isn't coded yet - see the feature list at the beggining, greened ones are completed

[chief1983]

I do have to admit, some way of generating a ships table entry might be nice, but I could see that being a whole other program of itself, looking at how complicated those table entries can be.  But having it generate a very basic template, with just the right amount of turrets, subsystems, and blank openings based on the pof data, might be within the scope of this program.

EDIT:  For grammar

[Flipside]

I think that a table generator etc would be a lot of work to put on one persons shoulders though. I suppose the best bet is to get something workable up and running, and then that will hopefully add impetus to improve and expand on the base converter

[chief1983]

Well, he is planning the roadmap, so I figured this could be something for 2.2 or beyond if nothing else.  On top of that, I don't think it's all that complicated of a request.  It just needs to generate a template with all possible fields for a ship, and blanks wherever it can't generate the data from the pof directly.  The data's already all there, it just basically has to dump it to a pre-formatted file.  I might actually try and sit down and write something like that over spring break if I get a chance.

EDIT:  Grammar again...tonight's not my night.

[Flipside]

Oh, I agree, I'd love to see a table generator (in truth, I suggested one on page 2).

I think the problem is things like ship-flags. There will probably be a pretty final list of flags by 3.7, so stuff won't keep having to be added to PCS 2, but I agree, generating the text file for a ship isn't complicated from a coding point of view

[Scooby_Doo]

Say wasn't someone working on a table editor a while ago?

[chief1983]

Yeah, that's why I was saying that a real generator/editor could be a full blown program, but just spitting out a template with a few things filled in already and the rest empty isn't, that's all I meant.

[Kazan]

I'm on the fence about tbl generation - because initial design specs for PCS2 were engine-abstract because i had planned it to be capable of dealing with both POF for FS2 Open and FOF for ferrium, but ferrium is dead - so i have to decide whether or not i want to put in a bunch of FS2 specific stuff

[Topgun]

It would be soooo awesome if it let you move subobjects around.

[Raven2001]

Heres another feature requestion.... Kazaan already looking at me with the look of death LOL..
How about rescaling an existing model?   I could bring all my fighters to scale with Saga models without having to rebuild them and relocate the points (gun, paths, eye..etc)

What he said

Also... dont forget insignias!!!

[Kazan]

rescalling is not difficult in the PMF format

[Wanderer]

Where does any one actually need table entry generator? As it aint difficult to write the entries on your own and you pretty much have to do that anyway. Subsystem/subobject name list is just about all that can be used.

[Flipside]

This is the thing, a simplistic table generator may be of little use, but how about one that automatically works out the vectors on your turret, so that its simplicity to use Bob's angled-turret code when it gets included etc. The potential is there, even if it takes a few generations to appear

[takashi]

and setting detail distances is hard....and so are subsystems, ect. ship table entrys are by far the most annoying to do.

[Kazan]

scheduling including table data in the long-term plans

i am, at this very moment, working on COB support