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Archived Boards => The Archive => Neo Terra Victorious => Topic started by: Alikchi on June 04, 2002, 06:46:41 pm
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Basically I'll use this thread to post up what I should be putting on the website, like screenshots, general information, story teasers, and blah. I'll put it up on the site eventually, I think. Comments are very welcome :)
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Weapons and ships are being finalized.
The NTF Augeas:
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/inferno/augeas1.jpg)
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/inferno/augeas2.jpg)
The model is still in final texturing and POF data, etc, by Woomeister. It's designed to be a standoff/general purpose fighter (load it with Phoenix Vs) that's fairly weak close in as it's quite slow (only 60 m/s) and has weak shields + hull, but has good maneuverability and the capacity to carry lots of weapons.
The NTF Gryphon:
(http://www.hells-horses.com/ali/gry1.jpg)
(http://www.hells-horses.com/ali/gry2.jpg)
(http://www.hells-horses.com/ali/gry3.jpg)
The NTF's elite forces raid the GTVA's OpEval courses deep inside GTVA space in an audacious attempt to steal the schematics for the GTF Perseus. The result: The NTF Gryphon, an extremely fast yet unmaneuverable interceptor that balances the unmaneuverability with heavy firepower in the form of long-range missiles. Whether this model will ever be completed and turned into a ship is unknown, we're currently using Aldo's Valkyrie II/Stentor model.
The NTF Ragnarok:
(http://www.hells-horses.com/ali/rag1.jpg)
(http://www.hells-horses.com/ali/rag2.jpg)
Probably will never be done, but presumably an NTF space superiority fighter.
NTF Liche:
(http://www.hells-horses.com/ali/lic1.jpg)
(http://www.hells-horses.com/ali/lic2.jpg)
Again, probably never be done, but it is the NTF's very own stealth fighter, although it is MUCH heavier than the Pegasus, as you can see.
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FS1 tech -
GTF Apollo: Still used as a raining craft (and punishment craft). Thrown into combat only in the direst situations.
GTB Athena: "Wild Weasel" craft, e.g. destroys AAA and flak turrets before heavy bombers arrive. Upgrade kits released by Dynamic Metamer during Reconstruction give this ship increased maneuverability, shielding, and payload capacity.
GTF Valkyrie: Standard interceptor. The Perseus hasn't even been invented yet and won't be until the main FS2 campaign begins.
GVF Anubis: See Apollo, except add "kamikaze".
GVB Amun: Still an effective heavy bomber. With two Banshee turrets it's a pain to attack, also.
GVFr Bast: Still easy to kill. If you don't remember, it's the Vasudan Poseidon minus turrets.
Avenger: Still in use. If you examine the table stats it's surprisingly powerful in relation to FS2 weapons. Early in the weapon, it's the most numerous and popular NTF weapon.
Banshee: Also still in use by the NTF in the beginning. Even now quite powerful.
Shield Breaker: Relatively rare. You won't see this weapon much.
Disruptor, Adv. Disruptor: What, you though the NTF was going to use a Vasudan Akheton SDG?
ML-16: Purely in the game for fun. Only use it if you want to, we're not going to force you to..I think :devilidea:
Interceptor: The only real difference between the Interceptor and the Harpoon is that the Interceptor is slightly bulkier and does less damage.
Fury: Fury's in there too. Not quite as effective as the Tempest but you make do with what you have.
MX-50: Still in there, although quite rare. You'll usually see a large quantity of these alongside about half as many Rockeyes in the Team Loadout screen.
Phoenix V: The Trebutchet hasn't even been invented yet - the GTVA forces will use these too.
Tsunami and Harbinger: Still far more of these in supply in the backwater worlds of Polaris, Sirius and Regulus than Cyclops or Helios.
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Features:
Note, this is only a rough list and will be added to and expanded soon..Adwight and Black Wolf, feel free to use your Moderator Powers to add and edit and stuff. Thank you :)
A replacement for the SOC
Plot lines that are logical and make sense (hopefully)
Most FS1 weapons
New Weapons
Several new ships
Fighting from the Neo-Terran Front's point of view
An encounter with Lieutenant Commander Snipes
EDIT: You forgot to add new weapons...
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New weapons:
The Prometheus Advanced:
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/ntv/images/promadv1.jpg)
Think of the Prom ADV as the NTF's Kayser.
The Tredegar:
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/ntv/images/tred1.jpg)
The NTF's Subach, with a twist. Derived from the Avenger and a bit of special tech (you can see the resemblance) it has fairly low damage but balances it with high speed. Again, it only does 75% damage to shields, but it does 150% damage to hulls.
The Katyusha:
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/ntv/images/kat1.jpg)
A dumbfire rocket that's designed to destroy freighters and cruisers. Very cheap to make and quite useful. You can fit 40 in the Medusa's top bank.
Fireball Light Bomb:
A light bomb. 5 can fit in the Athena's second back. Mostly used by the Athena and is effective against cruisers and corvettes. Fast lock time and speed.
Check the site for more info on these ships and weapons - the Augeas description is out of date, however - I'll update it later.
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I've added a new screenshots section, go take a look if you like :)
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I've put everything in this thread up on the site and added a bit too..go take a look! :)
I HUNGER FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
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the Augeas looks like an apollo, the other ships look great especially the Ragnarok.
I like the idea of a heavy dumbfire.
the new weapons look good but i don't know about the streams on the prom. adv.
edit: the screenshots on the website look nice.
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I might cut the Prom ADV trail in half, I don't know. I'll probably leave it the way it is, though :)
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Things are going well. Black Wolf is making forum graphics for us. I went on a FREDing spree and nearly finished about 4 missions 3 days ago. So for these past two days I've been resting :p
Edit: And for those of you who wonder, I will try to keep you informed even if it's like this, informing you that I'm resting :p
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Originally posted by PhReAk
the Augeas looks like an apollo
It's a tri engine Apollo made from scratch about 6 months ago. I'm not that happy with the maps at the moment. May remap it so it doesn't take 5 maps.
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Any word on when Neo Terra Victorious will be completed? This campaign looks like it has potential... :nod:
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Currently there's no release date set, but there may be partial releases as we complete the various acts.
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Yes, Act I should be done within the year (and that's giving us a LOT of extra time).
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More plot work is going on behind the scenes. If I told you what it was about, you'd know.
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Yet more plot work and Woomeister has given me the unfinished Augeas. I'm POF data-ing (:p) it.
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/ntv/images/aug4.jpg)
Hopefully, I can coerce Black Wolf into making hud and interface art, along with maybe reskinning it.
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I've been "coerced" (:p) The Augeas, which I'm told is now unique to NTV, will have interface art, hud Icons and a somewhat heavily modified skin. Then maybe Alikchi will let me out of this small metal prison. ;)
[SIZE=1.25]Edit - BTW, I need to know where the Augeas' Squad insigniae will go.[/SIZE]
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Originally posted by Black Wolf
[SIZE=1.25]BTW, I need to know where the Augeas' Squad insigniae will go.[/SIZE]
That's a good question, there isn't really a place for them, is there? ..uhh, on the top, right on the engine nacelles? Hmm. *loads Modelview*
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Originally posted by Black Wolf
I've been "coerced" (:p) The Augeas, which I'm told is now unique to NTV, will have interface art, hud Icons and a somewhat heavily modified skin.
Yeah it was dropped from Inferno at the very last minute. Have fun :D
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I'd like them to go here(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/ntv/images/augeas here.jpg)
This section is a real ***** to do well due to texture mapping on the actual model (It comes out skewed, so covering it up with a squad icon would save me a lot of trouble fiddling with angles :).
I know the head looks crap, but these are earlier skins. The current head looks better.
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Allright, when you're done with the POF send it over and I'll add squad insignias and hopefully view points and stuff too (needs to figure out some of this stuff)
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Halfway-finished a new mission today. Convoy escort with a twist..that's all I'm going to say
Arr..arr..screw that, I can't resist
You're escorting two tritons in an active asteroid belt. The belt is marked with Nav Lights (remember that old mod)? At the far end of the asteroid field is a node. Easy enough.
Except that the reason you don't see nav lights in the original FS2 campaign, I've decided, is that the heavily traveled nodes' have all been blown up.
Thus, the node you are guarding is not heavily traveled. Why?
The space mines, maybe? The sentry guns speckled throughout the field? Or could it be the Thoths, hidden, powered down behind the Nav Lights?
You're going to have fun protecting those two Tritons. :D
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Hey, don't give too much away :). Anyway, here're a few pics of the updated NTD Pheresphone (Formerly the Hades 2) which will feature in the later stages of NTV.
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/ntv/images/hades2-a.jpg)
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/ntv/images/hades2-b.jpg)
fixed some links for ya -Ali
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Note the obscene number of turrets ;7
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I just want to make sure, but NTV is an alternate timeline from the original FS2 story, right?
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Originally posted by Su-tehp
I just want to make sure, but NTV is an alternate timeline from the original FS2 story, right?
Yeah, I noticed the temporal anomoly too. Could be that the Hades surviving (and later being upgraded and painted red) was what made the NTF victorious.
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No, but the new Hades is a result of that anomaly :)
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Whatever it's origins it needs more variation on it's colour scheme. Play with the contrast and brightness to gets it's running lights white.
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Yeah, you're probably right - I'm an amateur at skinning, that's BW's department.
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Hardly, but thanks for the recognition :D. When I dl the VP, I'll have a look at these skins, and maybe alter them a bit to inprove variation. But if I'm doing that and the Augeas, It'll push back my mission even further.
[edit] Just saw your post in Internal, so I know you won't see this. I'll probably do it anyway :)
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I'm baaaaaaaack from church camp. I'll be taking a sort-of hiatus while I work on Ascension of Beyond for TheVirtu, but I might do some more story work
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Yay!
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:p I'll be gone AGAIN (doh) from today till July 5. However, I will still have internet access, so I will be on the boards.
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Boo!!!
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But wait, where I'm going the computers actually WORK *gasp* so I might be able to get some FREDing done. Doubtful, but..maybe.
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Well, I'm there. Hello from Arkansas :) Be back on the seventh.
On a higher note, my CD rom drive at home started working - 30 minutes before I left :doh:
So when I'm back, I shjould be able to start work on NTV and AoB and Inferno once again. :nod:
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And I am back
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The site has been updated twice, and a new download has been released.
http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/ntv if you want to find out what it is.
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(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/ntv/images/polaris.jpg)
Welcome to Polaris Prime orbit, before its name was changed to Neo-Terra of course :D
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For those of you who check this thread (Yes, all three of you) things are still happening, albeit at a slightly slower rate. Okay, a much slower rate, fine.
Anyways, I've managed to get Thorn to do a mainhall for me (he's still working on it) and I've found some really nice briefing music.
Finally, if you want some Neo-Terran Merchandise (get the cap!) you can go here: http://www.cafeshops.com/cp/store.aspx?s=Alikchi
That is all.
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:eek: YOU HAD NTF CAPS MADE?! :EEK:
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yes :D
and mugs and frisbees :nod:
BUY BUY BUY! :headz:
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Well, they're pretty cool, and the initiative's... admirable. I'll probably end up buying something, but you do realize that the legal situation's very murky don't you? the RF logo and stuff is THQs or Vs, and the NTF logo, well...I'm not going to sue you, but Interplay might...
Still, very cool :).
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Yeah, I'll probably close it as soon as everyone who said they're going to get something gets it.
So consider it a "limited time offer."
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Just checked - it's going to cost something like $30 AUD to get a single mug shipped over here... at that price I've got to think about whether I want it or not :(. Don't close down til I've told you one way or another, ok?
BTW, are you going to make this any more public? ie, news posts, etc.? Coz you'd get more business, and I'm sure there're a lot of people who'd love to have a NTF cap or mug, but don't check this forum, but it might be a little...shall we say indiscreet, given the circumstances?
Maybe you should suggest this place to Shrike for the HLP T Shirts idea that was floating around awhile ago? It seems like a reasonably decently priced site, and from what I understand, there's a way to put profit down to 0 (their base price)? That way there'd be no arguing over who the money should go to.
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I'm not getting any money - it's set at their base price.
I could put up a news post, on the NTV site - in fact I think I will. As for the HLP T-Shirts thing, it's up to Shrike. I'd reccomend him finding a higher-res HLP logo, though.
I have an NTF cap and a Nodewars poster in the mail :nod:
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Still alive, still working. I'm back in the FREDing mood. Perfected a mission today.
And WHERE is that damn NTF cap? I want to show my hatred of Vasudans to the world!
*scowls*
Edit 8/1: Oh yay I got the email. When I get it I'll post up pics :)
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Small update: I'm doing missions for some other projects at the moment - kind of lacking ideas. Soo yeah.
Anybody have anything to say/ask?
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Still not dead - school started, 0 free time.
so.. :p ...
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yeah... so what do you want me to do? :0
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Hmm..
give me a bit.
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lol, alrighty :)
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:p I know, things haven't been happening much around here but that's mostly because school started and I still haven't really adjusted to the "no-free-time" schedule
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Lol, same here. I haven't had time to do anything... damn football!!!
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I've had study and what I'll call personal issues (of a good kind :D ) but rest assured, I'm still here. BTW, I've finally hit upon the perfect nodemap design, shouldn't be long now. :)
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Oh, good :) I was wondering where you were.
Maybe I should get some more FREDers. I'll use my Connections and find some, maybe.
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I have a mission in progress - very good one, all about early difficulties with squeamish pilots, questioning the power sturcture etc etc. But as I said, other stuff is proving problematic. Anyway, check internal for a very unfinished nodemap...
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All right. I'd just like to assure our 3 readers (the ones who use the "New Posts" function) that we aren't dead. I'm taking a break until a) My new schedule, involving school, has stabilized, b) I finish doing some things for other projects and c) inspiration hits me.
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Originally posted by Alikchi
:p I know, things haven't been happening much around here but that's mostly because school started and I still haven't really adjusted to the "no-free-time" schedule
lol, who're you trying to kid :D no one did any work even when it was summer :D :D :D :D :D
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Update
Yes Yes, we are about 50% of the way through the demo mission making (which only really began in earnest about two weeks ago), so in theory, you should be able to kill yourself some Zogs within the month...but little things like Exams and week long parties (Leavers week rocks ;7 ) are gtting in the way of my FREDding time - so expect the demo before Christmas (Hopefully).
Currently it will be either 5 or 6 missions, possibly a branching end (One End sees you in Epsilon Pegasi, the other in Deneb) - this is particularly likely if Alikchi actually hires one of the FREDders who applied. Anyway, it will catalogue the beginnings of the NTF rebellion 18 months prior to FS2, and will probably be released as a VP of under 2 megs (We aren't putting in even a quarter of the stuff the full campaign will contain - no NTF interfaces, no NTF intel graphics, no NTF main screen, - just the missions and a few minor mods to make it fit the pre FS2 timescale).
Anyhow - any questions? We'll obviously have more solid information as we get closer to completion, but most queries should be answerable at this point.
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Hey guys, you could say I'm as good as back. Football is finally over (thank god). We got second place, got our asses kicked in the championship. Oh well... I have a question Alikchi, what kind of mission do u want me working on?
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Okay, the demo should be done and out in two or three weeks, very likely less. :)
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Yay!!!
Y'all cool if I go and give Lobsta a kick in the ass and tell him to FRED instead of whatching tv all day and not doing his schoolwork? :)
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Make him an offer he can't refuse. :D
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"C'mon man! Do it! Or else the biznatch will get you! And we both know how you can't escape the biznatch..."
hehheh. Inside joke.
*makes some calls*
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Meh
he rented Metroid Prime for his gamecube and his brother is erm.. "sick" so he's probably going to be usurping the family computer the entire weekend.
I wouldn't expect to hear from him till' Wendesday - at best.
:doubt:
*shrugs* I'll kick him tommarow I suppose..
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i might not be able to do any FREDing for a while cause my bro is a ***** and like KT said he is "sick":doubt:, so he might end up getting to use the computer for a while. ill try to get work done when i can.
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Lobasta'... go over the drills I've told you.
Here's one ~ Provoke him to swear :D Prefrebly in front of mother.. while using covert tactics to do so :drevil:
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Hokay, another status update for you on the demo, this time I even have some numbers :)
Of the five missions, One is 100% Complete, two are being tweaked by Alikchi, and are about 90 % complete, The first mission I'm still working on, it's about 70% complete, and the Fourth mission is being done by Alikchi, about 50% complete, meaning the demo is about 81% complete. However, if all goes to plan, my mission will be 100% completed tonight or tomorrow, so, depending onAlikchis speed, we could be beta testingby the end of the week :D.
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3 cheers for math!
And possible Demoage in a week or two. :p :)
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OK, we've all but finished testing, Final tweaks are being done. If it's not out within five days, it'll be someone elses fault :D
But seriously, watch this space - it's coming, and it's coming soon!
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oh ****, I was supposed to beta test that
heheheh :D
*goes and looks at NTV zip*
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Stay tuned, folks. ;)
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Wha??? What you talking 'bout???
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Might as well announce - this isn't going to be dead any longer. :)
That's all I'm ready to say right now but there will be more.. :D
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Whoo hoo!
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This deserves news.
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Originally posted by Alikchi
Stay tuned, folks. ;)
*stays tuned*
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Originally posted by Woolie Wool
*stays tuned*
:nod:
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*tunes into The Simpsons instead
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NOOOOOOO!!!!!
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*throws Duff beer bottles at KT as hard as possible*
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Break it up, fellas! Or I'll send you BOTH to the marshmallow mines of Siberia! :shaking:
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mmmmm siberia
Woolie: I'm rubber and you are poo. It doesn't matter what you throw at me because you will always smell like ****.
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lol
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Helloooooooo?
This thing still alive? No posts here for...a year. I was looking forward to it, too. :sigh:
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Errr... yeah. Here's the thing. Mods and storyline are 100% complete, all we need are missions and people who work fast enough to handle them. Ideally we'd have Blaise Russel in here to finish the whole thing in about a month.
As it happens we're trying to get the FRED academy involved to take it over, but it's somewhat disorganized on their end. My job (mods) is done, BW has many other responsibilities, Alikchi is gone and Adwight... actually I don't know about Adwight. If you see him let him know we're looking for him.
Anyway. That's where things stand--all we need is for the mission outlines to actually be translated into missions, without it being rushed through and ending up like Silent Threat.
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FREDders you say... *strokes nonexistant goatee thoughtfully*
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I'm willing to FRED and do missions for you. I enjoyed the Demo of NTV and have been waiting for ages for this project to finish. So I'd be more than happy to help out :)
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Originally posted by Gai Daigoji
I'm willing to FRED and do missions for you. I enjoyed the Demo of NTV and have been waiting for ages for this project to finish. So I'd be more than happy to help out :)
Perfect your own missions first....no offense meant....
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Projects declared as finished:
# Fred Zone
# Freespace Port
# Freespace Universal Reference Project
# Casualties Of War
# Hard Light Array
# Lightning Marshal
# Neo-Terra Victorious
# Stealth's FS2 Site
# Technological Superiority
So you guys are done?
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They have completed work. However the NTV material will be used for FA in the future.
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Not to cast a shadow of doubt... but is this going to be finished?
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Did you read the two posts above yours? :wtf:
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The posts weren't exactly descriptive. What's meant by it being included in FA?
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FA = FREDders' Academy
The campaign is going to the FRED Academy for completion, due (I'd imagine, at least in part) to a lack of in-house fredders.
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ey!
waht's going on :D :D :D
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FA is supposed to be taking this over, but it looks stalled...
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Hi!
Uh, yeah. Short answer, we have mods and mission outlines and nobody to do the missions. I don't know anyone involved with FA, though, so it's just sort of sitting here.
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FA? whats dat!
also, nice website ;)
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Don't flatter yourself. :rolleyes:
Look up FRED Academy in the Campaign forum, that should get you started.
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excuse me, but since when technological superiority has been qualified as a finished project? As far as I know it's still up to episode 1 (pity too).
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It wasn't that good a campaign from what I hear, but I've never played it.
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the point is it was never finished, i think.
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One chapter of it was finished, which is more than many abandoned projects can say...
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also I have a new badge. :nervous:
*looks at proportion of projects with released work to unreleased work*
Well, that's not so bad, I guess...
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Well, I wanted that badge aswell :(
Oh well, better luck nextime :D
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It wasn't that good a campaign from what I hear, but I've never played it.
It was the first campaign to use cutscenes, even if there were no cutscene SEXPs back then. It was interesting IMO.
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Tell me, do you still need a crappy FREDder?
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Crappy...no...I need to talk with Galemp...wait... :nervous:
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Any news?
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All's quiet on this front. :sigh:
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Sorry guys, I'm currently focusing on INFA and INF SCP. Expect updates very soon. :)
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I'm looking forward to it.
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:bump:
It's time to show some screenshots coming straight from the first mission! :D
Right here! (http://www.moddb.com/mods/neo-terra-victorious/images)
(http://media.moddb.com/images/mods/1/14/13171/NTV_Screenshot_01.jpg)
(http://media.moddb.com/images/mods/1/14/13171/NTV_Screenshot_02.jpg)
(http://media.moddb.com/images/mods/1/14/13171/NTV_Screenshot_03.jpg)
(http://media.moddb.com/images/mods/1/14/13171/NTV_Screenshot_04.jpg)
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Cool. :cool: :yes:
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First image makes a good wallpaper.
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...There had better be a good reason why you're carrying ML-16s in that Valkyrie.
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ML-16 and MX-50.
Poor NTF. :)
Though Valk and Avenger are worth of something (especially Avenger, as it's better than Subach-HL7).
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so you have translated the game to italian? or was there a retail release with that language?
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ML-16: the
poor man's destitute homeless man's Maxim cannon.
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so you have translated the game to italian? or was there a retail release with that language?
FreeSpace 2 had the Italian language included IIRC.
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I once had Polish version of FS2 (now I play in english, because I'm not longer installing FS from my disks, but rather install a TC and then overwrite it's files with retail .vps), so I don't see why there wouldn't be Italian version in Italy.
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install a TC and then overwrite it's files with retail .vps
:wtf: Well, you could also
- copy the retail files somewhere
- run the Launcher (retail or FSO)
- boom, that's it.
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The player's squadron is composed of rookies, and the NTF keeps the good stuff for units that were once part of the GTVA fleets stationed in Sirius, Regulus and Polaris. Sometimes, the NTF employs a Soviet tactic: a mix of old and modern units to capizalize on numbers and rapid strikes. Think of a wing of Hercs supporting the modern Herc IIs - the presence of modern spacecraft somewhat reduces the handicap of deploying older units. Useless to say that, up close, the old Hercs can deliver their goods and inflict severe damage to cruiser-size vessels and below. The same principle is applied to pure fighters and bombers with encouraging results.
The NTF is not "poor" - it's just that it doesn't assign valuable stuff to rookies who still need to show their true potential. Obviously, the player will have access to better weaponry starting from the second mission.
The first mission has been designed for the player to feel the technological gap. NTF fighters are outgunned and pilots complain about it, but the squadron leader replies by claiming that the enemy's advantage consists in better weaponry at the expense of speed and maneuverability (which are very important). Unlike the rest of the squad, the leader previously served the GTVA (so he's not a rookie) and gives precious hints throughout the first part of NTV. The player will also feel the GTVA's superiority, so it won't be like ST:R's rogue faction of the GTI (which, IMO, did not make me feel its substantial superiority during the game).
so you have translated the game to italian? or was there a retail release with that language?
FreeSpace 2 had the Italian language included IIRC.
I once had Polish version of FS2 (now I play in english, because I'm not longer installing FS from my disks, but rather install a TC and then overwrite it's files with retail .vps), so I don't see why there wouldn't be Italian version in Italy.
No - that translated interface (which is WIP) is the result of my work. 134th Barracudas (Rael on IRC) is helping me a lot with the translation.
Keep in mind that it's only the interface to be translated - me and 134th are not really going to work on the main FS2 campaign and ships/weapons tables. The interface is immediate and universal, the other texts are specific. For example, I'm using the translated interface in Inferno without any problems.
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Wow, good work Mobius & team. Looks nice, I really like the mix of old and new technology (as weird as it may seem).
Who made the pictured mission? dragonsniper?
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Wow, good work Mobius & team. Looks nice, I really like the mix of old and new technology (as weird as it may seem).
Thanks! :)
Who made the pictured mission? dragonsniper?
It was me. The screenshots don't come from a complete version of the mission (in the last two screenshots there should have been two Tritons). I'm working on the mission right now, and I also intend to get the second mission done today.
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I take it since you guys are back to hosted your ready to step back into the light (hopefully with goodies...)?
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I think Mobius went MIA for an indeterminate time due to RL issues.