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Re: Derelict Needs a Facelift
Aurora Paradox; good job man. I've been playing through the campaign but haven't found anything that you didn't mention. :yes:

Hell, I didn't find half the stuff you DID mention. :P

 

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Re: Derelict Needs a Facelift
Aurora Paradox, feel free to triple post as long as your posts are coherent to the big bugsquashathon. :)
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Re: Derelict Needs a Facelift
Thank you for the compliments you two.  However, I'm sure you'll find something I missed Solatar.  Try and go through the failure debriefs with a fine tooth comb.  I didn't go through those as well as I should have.  I was planning on going through them after I cleared the entire campaign successfully. If you could go through those debriefs I would greatly appreciate it.

At the rate I'm progressing I should be through testing Derelict before the end of the month.  I have just finished testing 5 more missions.


Mission 33: ShadowPlay

-The nebula background for this mission looks horrendous.  A major upgrade is needed here.

-A message from Alpha 2 indicates that Alpha should assume guard positions on the two freighters.  This does not happen without the player issuing orders.

-There is no directive to destroy Halberd Wing.

-Perhaps all of the convoy ships should be added to your escort list.

-Alpha and Beta wings do not automatically depart at the end of the mission.

Mission 34: Quoth the Raven

-During briefing, when the Auriga is clicked on it is listed as a GTD Orion.  If possible, this should be changed to MTT Orion.

-A correction is needed to a line of dialogue from Beta 1 to match the voice acting.  Chased needs to be changed to chase.

Current Message: “Maybe when we've got some real enemies to fight. All we've done so far is chased shadows.”

Corrected Message: “Maybe when we've got some real enemies to fight. All we've done so far is chase shadows.

-There is always one fighter that rubs up against the AWAC at the beginning of the mission for several seconds.  Usually one of the fighters in Beta wing.

-There are no directives for destroying individual wings.  Especially since they are stealthed knowing how many remain would help.

-A line from Alpha 3 needs a slight change to match the voice acting.  The words make and it are never spoken.

   Current Message: “They're after me... I'm not gonna make it!”

   Corrected Message: “They're after me... I'm not gonna……..”

-Eliminating any of the stealth fighters does not count toward your kill count.

-The Macura is thanking Alpha and Beta when destroyer is already halfway jumped out.

-Alpha, Beta, and Delta wings do not automatically jump out at the end of the mission.


Mission 35: The Sting

-Alpha wing does not automatically jump out at the end of the mission.

Mission 36: Resupply and Revelation


-Alpha and Delta wing does not automatically jump to the new location.

Mission 37: Shepherding 101

-Sagittarius wing seems to be moving a bit slow.  It makes them very easy to take out.  It should be a bit more difficult than it is.

-Alpha, Beta, and Delta wings do not automatically jump out once the bombers have left.

Mission 38: Striking the Line

-The directive to destroy the SC Zoth’s forward beam cannon is present at mission start.  It should only show up after Alpha 2 mentions it.

-As long as the SC Zoth is destroyed it doesn’t matter whether or not its beam cannon is destroyed.  The mission debrief also implies that the beam cannon was destroyed even if it wasn’t.

-Allied wings do not automatically jump out once all hostiles fighters have been cleared out.

 
Re: Derelict Needs a Facelift
Two missions have cleared testing.  Seven mission are left in the campaign.

Mission 39: Playing Possum

-Does the Epicurus sounding like The Terminator count as an oddity?

-Alpha wing attempts to destroy debris but usually takes forever to actually hit a piece of it.  This includes using Harpoons.  This is a waste of missiles since they aren’t locked onto the debris.

-The GTT Grace docks INSIDE the Epicurus.  The transport pokes around the inside of the corvette and eventually “settles in.”  At some points over half the transport is inside the ship.  Once it has “docked” the nose portion of the ship is still inside the corvette.  The undocking process looks just as odd.

-The name of the Demon class destroyer is spelled wrong.  I caught this one completely by accident when I was looking at the event list.

Current Spelling: Cthon

Correct Spelling: Cython.

-Alpha wing will not “play dead” if you have issued them any orders.  This does not break the mission.  You can even order them to attack the Shivans and the mission will still work as intended.

-Your wingmen do not automatically engage the Shivans once you have been detected.  This makes them easy targets. They will engage once you issue them orders.

-Alpha wing does not automatically jump out when ordered to by command.

Mission 40: Sheridan’s Gambit

-The grid is laid over the ships during the briefing instead of the other way around.

-The Gorgon Cannon is not on your escort list.

-Shivan bombers launch Terran bombs.

-The Gorgon Cannon should not say it is opening fire until Alpha 2 finishes saying fire the dam cannon.

-Delta 2 does not automatically depart.  At least according to the wingmen display it didn’t.  I cycled through the friendly targets and was unable to locate the fighter.

Edit: I added a note to Mission 40.
Edit2: Applied strikethrough to a note for mission 39
« Last Edit: January 13, 2011, 01:08:09 am by Aurora Paradox »

 

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Re: Derelict Needs a Facelift
-The name of the Demon class destroyer is spelled wrong.  I caught this one completely by accident when I was looking at the event list.

Current Spelling: Cthon

Correct Spelling: Cython.

It's supposed to be Cthon (or Chthon). Both are used as references to Chthulhu (at least as far as what I find with a quick Google search), what's more important is that one of those is stuck to throughout all references to that Demon.
Cython has to with Python the programming language. :P
« Last Edit: January 12, 2011, 04:38:53 pm by Droid803 »
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Re: Derelict Needs a Facelift
-The name of the Demon class destroyer is spelled wrong.  I caught this one completely by accident when I was looking at the event list.

Current Spelling: Cthon

Correct Spelling: Cython.

It's supposed to be Cthon (or Chthon). Both are used as references to Chthulhu (at least as far as what I find with a quick Google search), what's more important is that one of those is stuck to throughout all references to that Demon.
Cython has to with Python the programming language. :P

Nice catch droid.  I will be applying strikethrough to that note momentarily.  Don't know why I thought it was spelled that way.  Never test when your tired I guess.

 
Re: Derelict Needs a Facelift
I have just completed the final three missions of the Derelict Campaign.  I will be compiling my testing log and posting it in a day or two.  I have also been making modifications to my earlier mission notes.  They now conform to the style I used in later missions.  In addition, I have corrected a few errors I found in the notes as well.

Mission 41: Onslaught

-Beta wing is shown on the briefing screen but is not mentioned.

-The last message from the GTD Ignatius implies that its engines have been destroyed.  However, the engine subsystem is still intact when the destroyer is destroyed.

-Shivan bombers launch Terran bombers.

-Alpha and Beta wings do not automatically jump back to base.

Mission 42: Memento Mori

-During the introduction of the GTB Hydra, the CB Animation for the GTB Artemis is used.  Since no animation exists for the Artemis D.H. (which is what the Hydra essentially is) mjn.mixael has offered to create one.

-Shivan bombers fire Terran bombs.

Mission 43: Hail Mary…

-Shivan bombers launch Terran bombs.

-There is no directive to destroy the Shivan fighters.

-All Allied fighters do not automatically return to base.

Credits

Before playing the credits it hit me with the error you usually get while trying to play the main campaign with a mod (other than the MediaVPS) selected.

EDIT: I've added in an additional note for mission 42.
EDIT 2: I have removed one of my notes from mission 42 after further research.
« Last Edit: January 14, 2011, 06:00:46 pm by Aurora Paradox »

 

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Re: Derelict Needs a Facelift
Just to clarify.. I would make that ANI in the style of the FS2 tech anims using the D.H. model from FSU. And it would take me all of 10 minutes.
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Re: Derelict Needs a Facelift
UPDATE:

The final testing log won't be released until tomorrow night at the earliest.  Fine tuning the log is taking longer than I anticipated.  When I do release it, it will be released in PDF and text document format.

 

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Re: Derelict Needs a Facelift
Five missions have cleared testing.

Mission 20: Scorched Earth
-There is a piece of debris from an SF Mara floating around out there.  Given that the SD Nyarlathotep has not yet "awoken" this should be removed.

I personally thought this was a foreshadowing of the Shivans coming to free the Nyalathotep (and showing that it was the Shivans that slaugtered the pirate base and the Socrates).

Mission 31: The Wrong Door

-The objective Target Destroyers is shown as complete before you have scanned all three.

-One of the objectives is to “Target Cruisers.”  I was unable to scan any of the cruisers.  This does not break the mission in any way and is not mentioned in debrief.

The dialogue tells you that all you need to do is to target each cruiser for two seconds. This is probably also the reason for the first point in the above quote. You basically have to target every Shivan capship in the area before you move on to scanning the corvettes and the navigation systems of the destroyers.

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Also, it would be possible to reskin the HTL Iceni to get a new GTFf Saphah model. However, as texturers are probably working on other projects, then the Saphah model could at least be modified to use the new MediaVP textures.

In any case, great job in identifying what needs to be fixed in Derelict, Aurora Paradox. :)

 
Re: Derelict Needs a Facelift
I am now releasing my testing log.  I have attached it in PDF and notepad format.  I strongly recommend you download the PDF.  It maintains the original structure of the log and makes it easy to follow.

EDIT: Testing logs removed by poster.  Please downloaded the revised testing logs in my latest post.


« Last Edit: January 22, 2011, 09:30:17 pm by Aurora Paradox »

 

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Re: Derelict Needs a Facelift
Also, it would be possible to reskin the HTL Iceni to get a new GTFf Saphah model. However, as texturers are probably working on other projects, then the Saphah model could at least be modified to use the new MediaVP textures.
I think I have something that could be useful.
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Here is the requested ANI.

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Re: Derelict Needs a Facelift
I just finished fixing all of the Command Briefs, Briefings, In-game dialogue, and debriefing errors listed in the testing log.

I'm attaching a revised testing log to this post.  In addition to showing everything that has been fixed so far, I have corrected several errors I found in it.  I will be removing the the previously posted testing logs shortly.

EDIT: Fixed spelling error in post.
EDIT 2: Testing log has been removed by poster.  You can find the revised log in my latest post.
« Last Edit: January 31, 2011, 11:27:28 pm by Aurora Paradox »

 
Re: Derelict Needs a Facelift
STATUS OF UPGRADE:

The missing line of voice acting has been recorded and processed.  I'm currently adding in any missing directives and changing the weapon load-outs of every Shivan fighter/bomber so they use Shivan missiles/bombs.  I'll post when I finish this task or I have other news regarding the upgrade.

EDIT: 200th post mark
« Last Edit: January 29, 2011, 05:57:43 pm by Aurora Paradox »

 
Re: Derelict Needs a Facelift
UPDATE:

All Shivan fighters and bombers will now use Shivan missiles and bombs.  Several destroy directives have been added to various missions.  Additional directives might be added at some point.  In the Mission 40, Leo wing now has the standard load-out for Manticore fighters (before they had no missiles).  I discovered this while I was checking and fixing the load-outs of all Shivan spacecraft.

I have attached the latest version of the testing log.



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Here is a new version of the Artemis D.H. Anim. It is using the new HTL model by Sab0o.

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Re: Derelict Needs a Facelift
Here is a new version of the Artemis D.H. Anim. It is using the new HTL model by Sab0o.

Thanks for creating another D.H. animation.  The new ANI looks great.  Sab0o did an awesome job on the Artemis and the Artemis D.H.

 

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Re: Derelict Needs a Facelift
I know it's been a REALLY long while, but there is one mission-related oddity I noticed that wasn't listed:

- The Stars are Right: If the Irving survives, it should jump out at the node. It doesn't.

(Yeah, I noticed almost every mission, no wingmen have the depart order active or have a cue to auto-depart.)

And um... I haven't seen an update for quite a while on the main revamp thread. Anything to say about that?
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Re: Derelict Needs a Facelift
Apologies for necro'ing an 8-year old thread, and even more apologies if this is the wrong place for this topic, but the thread title seems apropos to what I want to ask: How do I update Derelict's 3.8 MediaVPs to the current 4.2 version so that I can see (among other graphics goodies) the new Ganymede docked with the Nyarlathotep? And would that create any mission bugs or other issues?

I'm playing through Derelict for the first time. Remember how I was away for 17 years and have lots of campaigns that I need to catch up on? :D

And did I miss the "main revamp thread" where I should have posted instead? :nervous: :nervous:
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