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Offline IPAndrews

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TBP 3.4b beta feedback
Please report your experiences with the TBP 3.4b beta release here. If you are reporting a bug here please note that not all bugs can or will be fixed. Also, don't post requests for new features, or new ships in this thread. Thanks all.

Known bugs

1. Support ships can't dock with a disabled ship (Kara)
2. Add FAQ entry about inability to assign orders to DH Mothership.

Fixed in the next release

1. White on blue writing in installer (Hip)
2. Stop installer trying to delete files and instruct user to do it manually (Hip)
3. Add instructions to use VPView32 2.0 Beta for to extract from core VP to FAQ (done)
4. Add Skullar's nameplate pack 1 and instructions on usage in the FAQ (done)
5. Add extra ani files as sent by Vidmaster (done)
6. Stop Hell and back briefing stage 3 ani showing FS2 logo (need to check)
7. p_gas10 and stars.tbl (done)
8. Bomb ship in Nobody Expects doesn't catch shuttle (need to check, difficulty level influence?)
9. Dogfight loadouts pointlessly limit weapon selection (done)
10. dhcarrierh.pof LOD distances doubled to disguise minor lower LOD model offset problem (done)
11. Targetting doesn't work when engines disabled (Kara)

Unfixable:

1. Black square over buttons (game engine bug)
2. Skullar's epsilon 3 background (promised but never sent)
3. "Drums of War I" mission 3 "Dropping the Sledgehammer" and a background planet had a black square around it (I don't have the knowledge or tools to fix alpha channel issues)
4. Babylon 5 Rotation
5. the RW Mission1 briefing (last stage) has still a incomplete voice file,
6. Asteroid model doesn't display when clicked in briefings.
7. Inferno build crashes in Multiplayer.
8. No rotation in subobject Multiplayer.
9. Cannot assign orders to DH Mothership (supercap object type hardcoded limitation)
« Last Edit: March 21, 2008, 03:00:03 pm by IPAndrews »
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Re: The Babylon Project 3.4b feedback
Not really a bug but I did find the white on blue writing in the installer very hard to read. Something to consider for the DVD installer perhaps.
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Re: The Babylon Project 3.4b feedback
white on blue? or the white on black?
the reason I ask is the most of the white blue is the usually blah blah crap that is standard on all installers, the white on black parts are the really important information.

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Hello...I've been watching these forum for quite a while,waiting for the final thing,the last one gave me errors and i saw others were getting the same ones,i didn't understand how to fix them...so i didn't want to bug you  :D 
Now I'm downloading and i have a question,maybe stupid,hope this is the place to ask.

At the release thread Andrew posted tbp.exe and Hip63 posted the link on rapidshare,do i need to download both? or will the rapidshare be enough to install,and if i require both of them,do i make 1 folder after download and place all there?

PS sorry for my bad english

 

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IP, the launcher still defaults to the standart fs2_open instead of the INF build. I forgot that and was remembered of that in a brutal way while testing FH2260. It CRASHED of course. Since it's recommended to use the INF and some campaigns (Survivor, FH2260) actually require it, could you do something about that?

(oh, and great new icon  ;) )

@BoORed: I guess Hip63 just posted the same 3.4b so you don't require something else. Download and try out.
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white on blue? or the white on black?
the reason I ask is the most of the white blue is the usually blah blah crap that is standard on all installers, the white on black parts are the really important information.

hip63 :p

The white on blue. I know it wasn't particularly important text but it was rather annoying. trying to squint at the screen to see what the options did.
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Offline FUBAR-BDHR

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Quick install question.  Is there a specific reason for deleting the directory before the install?  I have stuff in there I would like to keep (missions, campaign files, etc).  Is there a more specific "this needs deleted" type list?  I could just back up the stuff and copy it back but then there is still the possibility of copying something back that shouldn't be copied back.
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Offline Woolie Wool

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The installer is broken for me. It gets to ilu.dll and hangs indefinitely. Could you provide an alternate version with a rar or zip archive rather than an installer?
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Offline Vidmaster

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it does not hang. I thought so too, it can take OVER ten minutes  :sigh:
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Offline Woolie Wool

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It actually did work, but why doesn't the progress meter move at all?
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16:46   Quanto   it itches like hell
16:46   Woolie   !8ball does Quanto have malaria
16:46   BotenAnna   Woolie: The outlook is good.
16:47   Quanto   D:

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Offline karajorma

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It's extracting a 1.3 GB VP file and the progress meter considers that one file operation out of the 200+ required to install the game. Never mind that in terms of time that one operation takes longer than all the others put together.
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Offline Jeff Vader

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Quick install question.  Is there a specific reason for deleting the directory before the install?  I have stuff in there I would like to keep (missions, campaign files, etc).  Is there a more specific "this needs deleted" type list?  I could just back up the stuff and copy it back but then there is still the possibility of copying something back that shouldn't be copied back.
I suppose you can copy the campaign vps and possible mission files on the basis that if they are something unneeded after the installation, they are something unneeded even now.
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Offline IPAndrews

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Hip, does the installer actually warn people before deleting their directory (campaigns, player files, mission... :) )
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I can tell you it doesn't since everything is still there.  The instructions weren't posted yet when I did the install so I just did it over top of what was there.  Haven't run into any problems yet.  Reading that "Uninstall The Babylon Project and delete it's directory before installing the new version" in bold print this morning made me wonder if I could have something messed up now.
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Reading that "Uninstall The Babylon Project and delete it's directory before installing the new version" in bold print this morning made me wonder if I could have something messed up now.

Possibly. The instructions are there for a reason. The reason is to get rid of any old files that might be present and give you a fresh clean install guaranteed to work. Because 9 times out of 10 when someone complains their installation is completely screwed and the game won't start it's because there's some old patch file sat around in their directory screwing it up.
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OK then I shouldn't have anything that's not in the install package and not a campaign .vp or my own stuff.  I don't have any mods so that shouldn't be a problem.  When the official 3.4b is released I'll probably just back that stuff up and do a clean install to be on the safe side.
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Actually, installing over a previous install should not be an issue, I included a bat file that cleans up (deletes) old files from the previous 3.4 patches but only patch files. (I tried to think of all senarios when building the installer, but there is no warning)

I did included a notice during the progress screen to please be patient as file extraction can take some time. Kara's explanation of the decompression is correct and I've noticed that the displayed file name lags behind the actual file being extraced so that will throw you off too. Plus the speed of your processor GREATLY effects the decompression time.

IPAndrews mention nothing to me about using the INF builds as default so it is the way it is, easy enough to change at anytime through with the launcher.

hip63 :p
« Last Edit: January 24, 2008, 06:22:21 pm by hip63 »
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It sounds like you've done all the right things Hip.
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People... were is the new Epsilon 3 background planet?...
is it include? ... and the new starfury from the Lost Tales??
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Quote
and the new starfury from the Lost Tales??

I'm expecting to hear a smack from IP any time now.... :nervous:

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