Yipieh ! Found a "showstopper", 10 Points for Starman :)
When I enter my private messages, there aren't any "reply" or "quote" buttons anymore. Just for your information :)
I saw these old highlights when I was viewing my second page of posts...
(http://www.ciinet.org/kevin/myimages/Oldhighlights.PNG)
Steps to reproduce:
1. Go into your user profile
2. Click on "Show Posts"
3. Click on page 2
How do I reply to PMs?
Ah, coolHow do I reply to PMs?
ATM you can't, the buttons are gone. Copy and paste your quote manually and use the PM button under the name. I guess, the PM system will also get some popup buttons like the normal post, it's just they currently do not popup :)
This is a readability test. Try to read this without highlighting the contents.
When I enter my private messages, there aren't any "reply" or "quote" buttons anymore. Just for your information
I will do a happy dance,
for I'm a happy man.
I am also a Sandwich meat-shield
for this makes me happy
That issue indicates that browser for whatever reason, is identified as being a mobile browser.That is not what the mobile version of HLP looks like. This is what the mobile version of the site (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?wap2) looks like.
Note the Smartphone tags right top of FUBAR's screenshot. The layout doesn't seem broken, which is what usually happens if css fails to load. And if it is just css failing to load, I don't think it would show Smartphone tags.I have had that smartphone tag show up in my browser consistently (though I haven't noticed it this week) and never have any problem with the layout.
I'm experiencing a recurrence of the logout glitch. Is anyone getting the same thing?
Also, can we please lose the mouseovers on the quote, report and logged links? Not only are they annoying to have popping in and out of your peripheral vision as you move tawrd, away or through them, they're a massive pain when you're in a situation where you don't have a mouse as such (such as browsing from a phone).Yes. This.
[Edit] Actually, further testing shows it's only going to the most recent 'new' post that's fixed, with linking to specific posts that aren't last on the page still borked. Still, it's progress :)I never noticed that the new post link stopped working.
Also, can we please lose the mouseovers on the quote, report and logged links? Not only are they annoying to have popping in and out of your peripheral vision as you move tawrd, away or through them, they're a massive pain when you're in a situation where you don't have a mouse as such (such as browsing from a phone).Yes. This.
+1 to losing the mouseovers on the sigs, they're massively annoying, more so than having your scrolling get bogged when you wind up over one when scrolling down
Also, can we please lose the mouseovers on the quote, report and logged links? Not only are they annoying to have popping in and out of your peripheral vision as you move tawrd, away or through them, they're a massive pain when you're in a situation where you don't have a mouse as such (such as browsing from a phone).
I'm experiencing a recurrence of the logout glitch. Is anyone getting the same thing?
Yes, here too.
I just tested Firefox 3.6.13, I've never had FF installed so its as clean as it gets. I had no trouble following these links to correct posts. So that means IE8, FF and Chrome works for me.Just installed IE9 beta and now I have this problem that message links aren't working. But it also seems that ";topicseen#new" isn't directing to right post either in IE9. In addition, I still have the old problem that "Show unread posts since last visit." isn't displaying all unread topics since last visit, there are plenty more after I click "All unread topics", but this doesn't happen every time.
I occurred to me to try what happens if I enable search-engine friendly urls. Lo and behold, message links now works with IE9.I just tested Firefox 3.6.13, I've never had FF installed so its as clean as it gets. I had no trouble following these links to correct posts. So that means IE8, FF and Chrome works for me.Just installed IE9 beta and now I have this problem that message links aren't working. But it also seems that ";topicseen#new" isn't directing to right post either in IE9. In addition, I still have the old problem that "Show unread posts since last visit." isn't displaying all unread topics since last visit, there are plenty more after I click "All unread topics", but this doesn't happen every time.
After posting this message, I realized that the forums don't direct to my post either like it does in Chrome, instead it ended up several posts earlier.
It doesn't appear to have made any difference for me in Firefox 3.6. The post anchors still jump me to the first post on the page but it didn't break the #new tag (not that I was having problems with #new anyway).I occurred to me to try what happens if I enable search-engine friendly urls. Lo and behold, message links now works with IE9.I just tested Firefox 3.6.13, I've never had FF installed so its as clean as it gets. I had no trouble following these links to correct posts. So that means IE8, FF and Chrome works for me.Just installed IE9 beta and now I have this problem that message links aren't working. But it also seems that ";topicseen#new" isn't directing to right post either in IE9. In addition, I still have the old problem that "Show unread posts since last visit." isn't displaying all unread topics since last visit, there are plenty more after I click "All unread topics", but this doesn't happen every time.
After posting this message, I realized that the forums don't direct to my post either like it does in Chrome, instead it ended up several posts earlier.
Could you people report if this has also solved your issues with message links?
Also, I suspect the jump to post problems are being caused by the anchor - the bit of HTML code that the browser is supposed to jump to - being coded as an id instead of a name. Apparently some browsers are fine with that, while others aren't. I'll change that this weekend.
Can we also change the blue thread title text to something a bit more readable? :)
- Show unread posts since last visit doesn't seem to always pick all unread posts since last visit. Clicking on All unread topics reveals a lot more updated topics since last visit. I'm not exactly sure when it works and when it doesn't.
I have had that smartphone tag show up in my browser consistently (though I haven't noticed it this week) and never have any problem with the layout.
Sandwich: Where does that tag come from anyway, and what does it actually mean?
+1 to losing the mouseovers on the sigs, they're massively annoying, more so than having your scrolling get bogged when you wind up over one when scrolling down
Also, can we please lose the mouseovers on the quote, report and logged links? Not only are they annoying to have popping in and out of your peripheral vision as you move tawrd, away or through them, they're a massive pain when you're in a situation where you don't have a mouse as such (such as browsing from a phone).
The anchors still don't work, but what strikes me as really peculiar is that they reload the page I am viewing. Proper anchors don't do that; they just jump to a section of the page, not reload it.
Unable to load the 'manual' template.
[EDIT] Maybe this should be merged with Theme Issues?Yes and it's been mentioned several times here already.
Is there a way to, (or could it be added) just go to the last undread post in a thread? I know when you click on a thread from the main forum view (where it shows latest post and what thread for the board) it will take you to the last unread post. But when you are viewing a specific board your options (as far as I can tell) are view first post, last post (button on far right), or skip to a certain page (using the numbers).
I'd like a button that will take me to last unread post because I find myself clicking to go to last post and having to search back all the time.
(Perhaps we already have it and I have no idea...?)
undread
undread
This is now one of my favourite words ever.
5 pt limit broken? Test.I like my small text though.
The unfinished theme has been spewing thousands and thousands of errors to the HLP forum error log, making it impossible to diagnose any other error. So, finish the theme!!Already reported like a month ago.
Another problem:
The unfinished theme has been spewing thousands and thousands of errors to the HLP forum error log, making it impossible to diagnose any other error. So, finish the theme!!
Your page numbers are missing too.
Thats interesting, because I using Chrome 9.0.597.98 on this machine and the zoom doesn't break anything for me.Your page numbers are missing too.
Yes, it's really annoying having to navigate to the top of the thread to move between pages or to post a reply, thank god for the quote option.. I can use it when I need to post something, at least for that.
EDIT: I just found the cause of the problem.. apparently I-m unlable to use the zoom option, this disables the button bar on the lower part of the thread.
And yet my (windows 7, different pc than yesterday) chrome 10 doesn't do it when I zoom in or out.Do this, Press CTRL + scroll wheel on the mouse to you once.
I don't know what to tell ya, doesn't matter what zoom level in or out, set with the scroll wheel or the +/- keys, the text doesn't disappear.And yet my (windows 7, different pc than yesterday) chrome 10 doesn't do it when I zoom in or out.Do this, Press CTRL + scroll wheel on the mouse to you once.
I don't know what to tell ya, doesn't matter what zoom level in or out, set with the scroll wheel or the +/- keys, the text doesn't disappear.
Hmm, I checked again today, and now the row disappears like it does for Rodo. :wtf:I don't know what to tell ya, doesn't matter what zoom level in or out, set with the scroll wheel or the +/- keys, the text doesn't disappear.
Could it be a resolution-dependent thing then? Judging from his screenshot above, Rodo is at 1024px width, which is rather narrow.
The drop down text when you are searching for a name when sending a pm is the same grey on lighter grey that the code boxes used with the added bonus of the selection text being white text on a light grey background.
Whenever a thread is locked, on the forum topic list that particular topic turns white-ish. Unfortunately this makes it almost impossible to see what the topic title is, who posted it, etc without opening it.
Fixes:
- Having scrollbars for overly long sigs rather than the current 'expands on mouseover' would be nice, as the longer ones actually obscure posts below them (and in one case, several posts below them). Your own sig is a minor example of this, being long enough to obscure the quote button for the post below yours.
+1 to losing the mouseovers on the sigs, they're massively annoying, more so than having your scrolling get bogged when you wind up over one when scrolling down
I'm going through my theme to-do list, trying to knock off some of the smaller issues since I only have until the kids wake up from their naps... :-/The drop down text when you are searching for a name when sending a pm is the same grey on lighter grey that the code boxes used with the added bonus of the selection text being white text on a light grey background.
I can't seem to figure out how to get the dropdown you mentioned; is it completely broken now? :nervous:
Would just like to confirm that the auto-complete appears to be broken for me as well. I haven't send any pms in a while so I don't know how long it has been broken.I'm going through my theme to-do list, trying to knock off some of the smaller issues since I only have until the kids wake up from their naps... :-/The drop down text when you are searching for a name when sending a pm is the same grey on lighter grey that the code boxes used with the added bonus of the selection text being white text on a light grey background.
I can't seem to figure out how to get the dropdown you mentioned; is it completely broken now? :nervous:
Appears (or doesn't, actually) so. No longer getting a box up when typing in a user name in PM's, or in Member Groups. (Basically, any input "pop-up" where it would list an "auto-complete" selection is either no longer "auto-completing" or no longer "popping-up").
Additionally, Message input boxes no longer seem to be re-sizable (such as the Quick Reply box I'm typing in now) **Edit: But when I "Edit" this message, the message editor text input box is re-sizable.
Um.. why do all of the signature boxes extend WAY down even if the signature is really short?
...so even short sigs will expand after being hovered over for 1 second.
All sigs expand instantly on mouse over for me in Firefox 3.6.15.Um.. why do all of the signature boxes extend WAY down even if the signature is really short?...so even short sigs will expand after being hovered over for 1 second.
It's CSS3-based, and the Firefox 3.5 family doesn't support some CSS3 elements, according to a Google search.
I will use FF4 once all of my add-ons are supported. Which will probably be in a week or two.It's CSS3-based, and the Firefox 3.5 family doesn't support some CSS3 elements, according to a Google search.
Then that should be a strong hint for doing an update, yes?
Permission denied for <http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com> to call method Location.toString
Line 0On some pages. The ad at the top of the screen is for a Dell Poweredge R310.
Using FF4, the sigs expansion-after-wait works fine for me. Mongoose, try refreshing?Where or what exactly am I supposed to be refreshing? :p
Reply button. It gets covered by the expanded sig.Just use the Quick Reply box? :p
it also covers the quote buttonReply button. It gets covered by the expanded sig.Just use the Quick Reply box? :p
Just thought I'd pop in and say that on modern browser, the sig still pops up instantly, no delay.
...if this isn't happening for you, and you've already tried to clear your cache / force-refresh, let me know what OS, browser, and browser version you're using.
Ghosting buttons don't work on Chrome 10.0.648.204 on Windows 7 32 bit, HP Pavilion dv4-1275mx
Just thought I'd pop in and say that on modern browser, the sig still pops up instantly, no delay....if this isn't happening for you, and you've already tried to clear your cache / force-refresh, let me know what OS, browser, and browser version you're using.
I'd thank you for the info, but there is none; "modern browser" tells me nothing. ;)
Generally speaking, because sigs are often useful, we retain the functionality on the forums. However, the previous implementation of a limited-height scrollable area would interrupt scrolling under certain, not-uncommon circumstances, so I've been experimenting with alternatives. I wish the current method allowed for expansion to the sig's native height, but it doesn't. The previous method, where the sig expanded instantly, did adapt to each sig's natural height, but since sigs were popping on and off as one scrolled around, it got the hatchet. I could probably use javascript to get the desired functionality, but I'm not ready to resort to that quite yet.
On another note, I hashed out a change to the post action buttons (quote, reply, etc). You should see a dark "ghost" of the buttons on posts that aren't being hovered over, and they'll pop into normalcy when hovered over. Lemme know what you think.
Sorry. Windows 7, Internet Explorer, IE9. No ghosts either. At all, not just hard to see.
Sorry. Windows 7, Internet Explorer, IE9. No ghosts either. At all, not just hard to see.
IE9 works for me, although I had to force-refresh (CTRL-F5) to reload the stylesheet.
I've noticed that; I thought it was a feature so that old announcements wouldn't be forgotten. :rolleyes:Lest we forget. :)
Check the messages from any member and navigate to other pages != than the first one, like the 2nd or 20th.It does it on the second page (and subsequent pages) of unread topics as well.
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=883;area=showposts;start=20
<a id="msg1234567"></a><a id="new" name="new"> </a>I've only tested it on an Android webkit-based browser and in the desktop Firefox at small window sizes. Let me know if it works for you poor Apple slaves (:D), and what you think in general.Well I can confirm that it works great on an iTouch. Though the theme seems to always say that I am in portrait mode, however everything seems to scale correctly.
Well I can confirm that it works great on an iTouch. Though the theme seems to always say that I am in portrait mode, however everything seems to scale correctly.
Something that would be nice would be a way to use the reply boxes sizing bar.
Looks awesome. Could you please put a large button, up there, which says 'Install FreeSpace Open' and links to the Installer?
If possible make it a distinctive color too!
Just a suggestion, could you make the links on that bar go left to right rather than top to bottom? If they were all on one line they would take up substantially less room on a screen..Eh? They should do that already. What browser and version are you using?
Can we add #FreeSpace to the list of IRC channels?
(also, it's spelled Mibbit not Mibbet :P)
So, I found an issue with the drop down links. The menus will not drop down if the menus are above any part of the HLP logo/text, such as will happen if you have a browser window that is too narrow or if you have some zoom turned up.
HLP menu is missing link to HLP Mantis and mainpage. As such I also believe the FS Wiki link should be under HLP. Specific links to certain topics or wiki articles could be under FreeSpace. FreeSpace Open Installer probably should be under FreeSpace as well.
The Open Installer -was- originally under FreeSpace. However, in order to better raise it's prominence and to make it easier to direct people for where to acquire it, it was felt that having it as a top level item would be better. And it is on the far right to better allow side pagination for sub links in either "External Sites" and under "Hosted Projects" (without them going off the side so much out of the browsers drawn frame).
I said yesterday on irc that the domain is renewed automatically.
And apparently, the domain name needs to be re-registered.
Small detail: the ED website is still hosted at GW, but the forums moved over to HLP a while ago. If I was a newbie, seeing the ED forums here and looking for the website, I'd look for it under "Hosted", not under "External".
External sites should also include http://www.freespacemods.net
FYI, there's no need to add the ">" character to parent menu items; a little arrow graphic should be getting added automatically to any item with children. If that's not the case for you, please let me know browser & version, OS, and if javascript is enabled.
FYI, there's no need to add the ">" character to parent menu items; a little arrow graphic should be getting added automatically to any item with children. If that's not the case for you, please let me know browser & version, OS, and if javascript is enabled.
Browsers: IE9, FF 4.0.1
OS: Win 7, 64bit, Ultimate Pre-SP1
JS Enabled: Yes. JRE version: 6u21 (32 & 64 bit)
So you're saying that the little graphic arrows don't show up for you?
So you're saying that the little graphic arrows don't show up for you?
Yes, that is what I am saying indeed.
Can I add a request?
It'd be cool to have 'Recent changes' on the FreeSpace Wiki drop-down list.
I just now noticed, but you guys forgot the Stellar Assault ModDB page in the ModDB pagelist :(
http://www.moddb.com/games/stellar-assault-fso (http://www.moddb.com/games/stellar-assault-fso)
When accessing the PM inbox, the highlights boxes are really really old. I have them as Pirates of Yore release, BP post-processing video by Sara, ModDB announcement, and some other BP thing.
Anyone else getting this?
I just now noticed, but you guys forgot the Stellar Assault ModDB page in the ModDB pagelist :(
http://www.moddb.com/games/stellar-assault-fso (http://www.moddb.com/games/stellar-assault-fso)
Yes, it has been mentioned several times already.
(Still trying to work out a way to make things like the current in-post "Hover to see, semi-invisible otherwise" a per-user selectable setting. 24hrs in a day just isn't enough)
I tried to address a number of issues in smartphone: portrait recently (some a few days ago, some just a minute ago), but I'm afraid I haven't touched the menu system yet. Since it's a large dropdown menu, it's not something I can convert to display as a flat hierarchical list... not sure how to go about it TBH.Well, it seems to work okay as it is in that I am able to open the menu, scroll down the page an select the link I want (unlike the previous version (the old theme) where you had to "hover" to make the dropdown drop down, which is obviously impossible on a touch screen). The only problem with the drop down menu is that I can't seem to make it go away.
EDIT: Simply tapping on a blank area of the page should cause the dropdown menu to collapse.That may in fact be the problem, I don't think I am able to just tap on a blank area, the browser seems to take this as a hint to zoom or scroll.
...the browser seems to take this as a hint to zoom or scroll.That's... very weird. What device are you on?
...the browser seems to take this as a hint to zoom or scroll.That's... very weird. What device are you on?
Ah, the wonderful world of Apple. I wish I could help you more, but I'm an Android man with narry a fruit in sight. Does tapping on plain text (not hyperlinked) solve things?No. Only hyperlinked text works.
I donno if its just me, or if its even the theme's fault, but the favicon for HLP has become a spinny loading thing.
I donno if its just me, or if its even the theme's fault, but the favicon for HLP has become a spinny loading thing.
Not so universal joke. :P
(http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/3777/set4.png)
Linux, Firefox 11
I am officially sick of my mouse looking like it's loading something. The day's over. Change it back please.You mouse got it as well? My cursor was and is normal.
I haven't reverted the changes yet, so if you're not seeing the loading cursor and green favicon, your browser's lying to you. Lying.Hmm. Apparently firefox and IE don't let you change the cursor, because it never changed for me. IE didn't pick up the new favicon either. Chrome on the other hand, is using the busy cursor and what look like the first frame of the favicon.
I'll revert them in a bit though. ;)
And as for the browser stuff... most of the differences people were seeing were due to their caches not being refreshed. The background working cursor is pretty much universally supported - all OSes, all browsers (expect perhaps Lynx... :p).So it would seem. Either I was keeping my cursor over text every time or this browser refreshed its cache just in time before you reverted the changes, because my cursor is now doing it, though the favicon switched back.
Guess it was just the annual "let's break HLP after 1st April" issue, right ? :lol: :D
I would think the theme redirecting everyone that could resolve the domain name would be something that "we" did.Guess it was just the annual "let's break HLP after 1st April" issue, right ? :lol: :D
Actually from my understanding it wasn't caused by anything we did, although rev_posix would be able to give a more accurate answer.
I would think the theme redirecting everyone that could resolve the domain name would be something that "we" did.
Sandwich, please check out registration page. It has several theme bugs. Namely background and font colors where you type your username and password. Each of them have two or three different instances. Only empty unchecked username fields have correct bg and font colors. Password field has them wrong but username also goes wonky when SMF checks if username is already taken. Please fix.
I just decided to try out Chromium, the theme has some issues with it. See attached (at 1680 width).
Hmm, I'm unable to reproduce this in Chrome; which Chromium version are you running? Is it a dev build?
The text displaying the quote source doesn't scale down with the quote, so it clips the box after multiple quotes. Like I mentioned yesterday, it's a minor issue.
The very last one in the chain (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=43011.msg881678#msg881678) features scrollbars as well (attachment).
Didn't there use to be page numbers and a reply button at the bottom of threads?
I've got the same version.. what the crap could have cause this?
EDIT: Geeze.. I should have just reinstalled chrome earlier.. I love how all my bookmarks and Apps sync to my account... Uninstall -> download -> reinstall. Now chrome is back to exactly how I use it, with all bookmarks, plugins, and settings. <3
Also my issue has been fixed by the reinstall. Still a very odd issue. Didn't have anything like it on any other site.
array(
'tag' => 'spoiler',
'before' => 'Spoiler:<br/><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="1" width="100%"><tr><td width="100%" bgcolor="#000000"><font color="#000000">',
'after' => '</font></td></tr></table>',
),
Fixing this would involve editing the $codes array in Subs.php. Here's the relevant entry:Code: [Select]array(
'tag' => 'spoiler',
'before' => 'Spoiler:<br/><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="1" width="100%"><tr><td width="100%" bgcolor="#000000"><font color="#000000">',
'after' => '</font></td></tr></table>',
),
array(
'tag' => 'spoiler',
'before' => 'Spoiler:<br/><div class="spoiler" style="background-color: black; color: black;">',
'after' => '</div>',
),
Messed with the gradient of posts for CSS3-supporting browsers (basically just added a dark bottom gradient). Thoughts?
How's this?Better :)
It's better, admittedly, but I still preferred it the way it was before.
The top bar/dropdown menus and such are derping hard for me for some reason. As in, they're showing up as text and no buttons all of a sudden.
No clue why, did something change or is it purely on my end?
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It means using the "I have lost my password, please reset" thingie after a failed login.
oh god the whiteness! it burns!
According to Avira, the problem is in a Javascript asset called sleight.js
The name of the script does not inspire confidence :nervous:
Why can't we have HLP look like it used to before all these "updates"? Each iteration of the interface is worse than the previous one, and this is just plain horrible. It'd be easier to list things that aren't wrong with it, which coincidentally is everything that hasn't changed from the old theme. In short, I hate it.
EDIT: It seems that it's being slowly changed back. Good.
Because I have to be That Guy, I actually think that freespace Network thing is taking up a lot of valuable screen space.i agree with this. if it was an "auto-hide" style thing when you mouseovered on the upper part of the screen, i'd be happy.
1920*1080 ?
If you could just reduce the font size that would go a long way I believe.
According to Avira, the problem is in a Javascript asset called sleight.js
The name of the script does not inspire confidence :nervous:
Path?
Sorry for the delay, Avira has a terrible GUI...
hard-light.net/assets/js/sleight.js
Claims it's 'infected HTML', but can't get more details because the aforesaid GUI won't even allow the whole name of the reported virus to fit into the window... :/
That is a lot of blank space with the current fixed width...
(http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/2784/picoe.png)
EDIT : might be better to have fixed-width margins on the sides than fixed-widths posts. Would scale better with large resolutions. My 2 cents.
I think I could get used to the fixed width but the footer below the main thread body still looks a little wonky. (WIP I'm assuming)
While the modern Web 2.0 look is awesome, I'd like to point out one thing. Could you have a slight delay for the FreeSpace Network menus to open/expand? Because every time you move the cursor down after opening a new tab it mostly passes over some or the other menu (mostly Hosted Projects for me) and that flash of white light....it burns...
The point is not to "utilize" the entire width at the expense of readability. ;) If the space bothers you, have you considered having a couple of windows open side-by-side?Look for me on Gamewarden. I've had it with this "new and improved" look. It just keeps getting worse. Why couldn't we stay with the good, old interface?
FWIW, there should be a larger width the forums should be scaling to on large monitors, but it's not working for some reason. Low-priority ATM.
I think I could get used to the fixed width but the footer below the main thread body still looks a little wonky. (WIP I'm assuming)
Which part, and what is "wonky" exactly? :p
The point is not to "utilize" the entire width at the expense of readability. ;) If the space bothers you, have you considered having a couple of windows open side-by-side?Look for me on Gamewarden. I've had it with this "new and improved" look. It just keeps getting worse. Why couldn't we stay with the good, old interface?
FWIW, there should be a larger width the forums should be scaling to on large monitors, but it's not working for some reason. Low-priority ATM.
so can we hold off whining about the appearance of the site until the admins say they are done
Indeed. The switchover is made. The on-hover menus are now on-click.
Holy crap, what the ****? This place went from functional to unreadable. How do I get posts back to full width and the 'compose' screen to look like anything but a 2003 default template?I'm guessing from the bluntness and the post that followed that you didn't read what was going on until the second post. Also, do you mean the fixed width and the white boxes (the latter will probably be fixed) are the problems that you mentioned? Are there any pros or other cons that you know of?
Because I'm frustrated with all those changes making the most important FS forum nigh-unusable, that's why. My eyes hurt just looking at it, it looks better on my phone than on my PC.
Holy crap, what the ****? This place went from functional to unreadable. How do I get posts back to full width and the 'compose' screen to look like anything but a 2003 default template?
While we're on the on-hover expansion thing, can we make that go away for signatures? That's been driving me crazy forever, but I've just never made it to the support board to say something. It frequently "sticks" open, and it blocks the reply buttons. I don't know about the rest of you, but my mouse almost always travels through the signature on the way to those. Click-to-expand, or really just no cutoffs i think would be best. I don't know of anyone who has an insanely long signature, and it really doesn't save all that much space. A line or two maybe. Whatever happens though, let's not go back to the scroll bars. Getting rid of those was DEFINITELY the right thing to do.
It might be because I've heard about this that I didn't find the idea and the execution a problem. I hope your endeavors pay off because what the forum is now is potentially better than what it was before the fix.Holy crap, what the ****? This place went from functional to unreadable. How do I get posts back to full width and the 'compose' screen to look like anything but a 2003 default template?
The set-width thing is an experiment in readable line-lengths (http://baymard.com/blog/line-length-readability) (yes, I'm doing science!).
Can there be an option either in the Control Panel or the Reply/Create New Thread to disable or limit the emoticons even more? I've noticed that my old tablet slows down a lot when I try to reply to a thread on the forum. If it is a lot of work, then you don't have to fix it.
EDIT: Restored width to see who makes a fuss with it this way. :p
In case people are curious, what I've been doing was removing our reliance on some old scripts that may have had vulnerabilities, and converting the site's layout over to something more reliable. Right now I'm doing macro stuff. Later I might start on the micro (white text boxes, etc), but no guarantees.
EDIT: the nav bar will likely remain as-is for the forseeable future. What puny screen resolutions are you browsing in?
With the two toggle options I listed, if someone can find a mod for SMF that allows custom per-user preferences, I'll gladly make each of those a per-user setting.
cool liking a lot, one request though, is any chance of having a hover delay/time setting for the menu trigger? I would like to have a 1 or 2 second delay between mouse over and the menu triggering to minimise unwanted activation
Choice is good, but I wonder if it would be better to make the full-width setting the default. Otherwise people might see the narrow post width and think the site is broken or badly coded.
My only complain would be the gray box below that contains the drop down menu with all the boards and the "go" button, it kinda needs some tweaking to fit on the hole theme.
I've been seeing these weird things happening to posts where the post will have both a horizontal and vertical scroll bar. That's annoying at the best of times, but it's actually completely obscuring the post itself, when the post is a single line long or shorter. It's quite irritating.
EDIT:I'm using the fixed width option. That might be the problem.Switching to fluid width did not fix the problem.
My primary complaint right now is that on small displays (like an iPod Touch) the floating top menu covers half of the display.
Actually after trying to post a screenshot from my iPod, this site is unusable on small displays, because of things like, the login box being covered with the floating menu when you click on to start entering text. The posts are too wide resulting in continuous scrolling horizontally. The post box is too wide for the screen (and still has that impossible to use bar to make the box taller instead of a scrollbar). Everything that is not visible by default has a white background.
Is the text encoding for the site supposed to be UTF-8 or ISO-8859-1?
The HTML meta tag says ISO-8859-1, but I could have sworn it was UTF-8 before, given that the topic of the Whatcha Listenin' To? thread (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=79535.new) appears incorrectly when the encoding is ISO-8859-1 -- the copyright symbol appears as two characters instead of one.
While I'm posting:
- Font size for buttons (Post/Preview/etc) seems rather large, as does the the font size used when composing replies to posts. This is in Firefox on OS X, in case that's useful.
- +1 for the floating menu bar and on-click instead of on-hover. :yes:
cool liking a lot, one request though, is any chance of having a hover delay/time setting for the menu trigger? I would like to have a 1 or 2 second delay between mouse over and the menu triggering to minimise unwanted activation
Choice is good, but I wonder if it would be better to make the full-width setting the default. Otherwise people might see the narrow post width and think the site is broken or badly coded.
I considered that, but decided against it unless I hear an uproar from people. The limited width is definitely not "narrow" - matter of fact, it's far wider than most sites, at 1170px. For comparison, most frameworks stop at around 960px. :p Regardless, we can replace the current news announcement with one stating that people should go set their defaults. :)
cool liking a lot, one request though, is any chance of having a hover delay/time setting for the menu trigger? I would like to have a 1 or 2 second delay between mouse over and the menu triggering to minimise unwanted activation
in fact, you should just use .tbls, .tbms, and launcher flags so that everyone can customize everything.
Regardless, we can replace the current news announcement with one stating that people should go set their defaults. :)Definitely. I don't expect 90% of HLP to even read this thread ever.
I am now officially happy. Personal customization is always the best way to keep everyone happy.We are the 10%Regardless, we can replace the current news announcement with one stating that people should go set their defaults. :)Definitely. I don't expect 90% of HLP to even read this thread ever.
One small improvement that would be ubber mega amazing would be to add the "Show unread posts since last visit." and the "Show new replies to your posts." links in the fixed navbar.
Is the toolbar locked at the top of the page again? Because it stopped scrolling down (despite me having it set to SCROLL in the options)What Sandwich said, the bar is not stuck on the top of my window either, it's staying quietly on top of the page where it belongs with the "scroll" behavior. I'd ask what browser you're using (Firefox 16 here).
Regarding the toolbar: The strange thing is, if I go to the options and change it to the topmost (Empty!) option, it works as expected. Setting it to "fixed" or "scroll" changes it to the "fixed" behaviour.
Also, when resizing the browser window to a point where the smartphone mode kicks in, it moves the toolbar to the top again ("fixed" behaviour).
Can we change the forum width? it's really getting on my nerves so much space is wasted.
The width for mobile browsing works great. However the lines on the forum looks messed up, and when I type, the scroll bar violentlyswings up and down. I can't see what I'm typing.
Might be a good idea to switch to fluid by default.Good idea indeed. From what I've seen in this thread, most people prefer it that way.
Something just killed the title of "RELEASE: ???????? - Dimensional Eclipse".
The unicode characters are being turned into questionmarks....
EDIT: okay, unicode is not supported anymore? well **** ****itty ****.
Trying to post it inside [ code] tags results in a DATABASE ERROR.
The fact that old posts still have the unicode characters seems to suggest it's just an input problem.
And I like my non-ascii characters...
Something just killed the title of "RELEASE: ???????? - Dimensional Eclipse".
The unicode characters are being turned into questionmarks....
EDIT: okay, unicode is not supported anymore? well **** ****itty ****.
Trying to post it inside [ code] tags results in a DATABASE ERROR.
The fact that old posts still have the unicode characters seems to suggest it's just an input problem.
And I like my non-ascii characters...
Try now...
I'm guessing it's a known quantity, but there's a big ol' white rectangle across the entire forum width around the "Jump to" menu, which I keep mistaking for the Quick Reply box.
So, this is the minor-est of requests, but:Would that require recoloring the logo to be blue/green instead of red/orange to match? ;7 :nervous: :warp:
Could we get an optional theme that's based on blue, instead of red? That blue announcement bar makes me wonder what it'd be like....
I noticed that the "profile info" and "modify profile" buttons are activating on mouse-over, even though my preferences are set to activate-on-click. Is this something that can be easily fixed?
It was very small before... how's this?I like it. It sucks when this feature requires sharpshooter precision, which is the case with many sites.
I'm not sure exactly what happened to the old jump-to-next-thread prev/next buttons, but I'd like to grovel at the feet of Sandwich for implementing them for moving between pages within a thread, which makes infinitely more sense. :yes:
so.... this is weird. my layout is schizophrenic. sometimes the news bar is big and blue, sometimes it is centered and the same color theme as the rest of the forum. sometimes the page number links are gigantic and sometimes they are normal size. some other text seems to be morphing size on its own also, like the compose box, but not nearly as drastic as the pages.
Same here. I suspect it's more of a browser-cache-clearing thing than a forum thing.
In case it's not though, please reduce the size of page links down from super-huge.
I guess it's the "super-huge" he's asking to change back from. I second that, I hate the new look. This whole site became frustrating to look at.
At least our site doesn't look like it was made in the 90s anymore.Exactly my problem with it. It looks like it was made in 2012, with phone browsers and their dinky screens in mind. I want a PC version with layout and style like it used to be before all those changes (like the one on the "main" homepage).
At least our site doesn't look like it was made in the 90s anymore.Exactly my problem with it. It looks like it was made in 2012, with phone browsers and their dinky screens in mind.
Exactly my problem with it. It looks like it was made in 2012, with phone browsers and their dinky screens in mind. I want a PC version with layout and style like it used to be before all those changes (like the one on the "main" homepage).
watch what happens to the forums when you shrink your browser width down to near-phone scale. See that drastic change? That's something that's made with phone browsers and screen sizes in mind.
Exactly my problem with it. It looks like it was made in 2012, with phone browsers and their dinky screens in mind. I want a PC version with layout and style like it used to be before all those changes (like the one on the "main" homepage).
:wtf: Do me (and everyone else) a favor, and watch what happens to the forums when you shrink your browser width down to near-phone scale. See that drastic change? That's something that's made with phone browsers and screen sizes in mind. The desktop layout isn't.
I know. It works on a phone. But must we have a single layout for both phones and desktops? Isn't there a way to make the site tell if it's being viewed on a phone and adjust accordingly?Exactly my problem with it. It looks like it was made in 2012, with phone browsers and their dinky screens in mind. I want a PC version with layout and style like it used to be before all those changes (like the one on the "main" homepage).
:wtf: Do me (and everyone else) a favor, and watch what happens to the forums when you shrink your browser width down to near-phone scale. See that drastic change? That's something that's made with phone browsers and screen sizes in mind. The desktop layout isn't.
I know. It works on a phone. But must we have a single layout for both phones and desktops? Isn't there a way to make the site tell if it's being viewed on a phone and adjust accordingly?
Dude, you seriously need to get your screen calibrated or something. Those fields aren't too dark at all.I have no trouble reading them. They just look unusually dark for something that isn't supposed to be grayed out, and would look better if they were brighter.
(inb4GarrusCalibrations)
Also, can we get some other color scheme for the "jump to" dropdown list other than white on gray?
Can we get some other color scheme for the "jump to" dropdown list other than gray on slightly lighter gray? Like.... I don't know.... white on black or black on white or... any other combination of colors that actually contrast well? Either that or go full troll and make it black on black. It's just that the current "usable but annoying" scheme seems kind of wishy-washy. :p
Latest Google Chrome for iOS, iOS 5.1.1
Clicking any drop-down menu item (e.g. Profile > Account Settings) instead clicks on the item below the menu, like another menu or the logout link.
i see you tried to fix the sig extension blocking buttons, but it didn't work right. they display over the sig box, until you move your mouse toward them and try to click on them, when they pop back underneath.
apparently printscrn doesn't capture the mouse cursor, but in the second one it's hovering over where the reply button should be.
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In the longer run, though, I'm wanting to change the highlights thing entirely.That would be good, 'cuz the TBP highlight exposes another oddity :P
In the longer run, though, I'm wanting to change the highlights thing entirely.That would be good, 'cuz the TBP highlight exposes another oddity :P
Confirmed on Windows Chrome.firefox.
Confirmed, on Windows as well as Ubuntu.
Confirmed on Windows Chrome.firefox.
Confirmed, on Windows as well as Ubuntu.
Also, on my (Android) Samsung Galaxy II, if I click on the User Name bar to log in, it also fills in my password as I type. Browser is Dolphin.
All you people having odd z-index issues (elements appearing on top of other elements), have you emptied out your cache and force-refreshed? I'm unable to duplicate the issue...It's gone now indeed... I'm pretty sure I force-refreshed before confirming it, too.
So uh... is that red text on bright blue going to be permanent?Nope, so far a force-refresh fixed it for everyone :P
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No font issues here either. Firefox 19.0.2, Win7.
Sandwich's link in the news leads to an internal board
Please remove either one of the two news announcements, since one is enough. If you keep the one at top of the forums, at least make it follow forums color and font theme instead of this annoying large blue box. It's way too big.
More sig wonkiness for a bit as I try something. Also, hooray for YT/Vimeo/P3D buttons on the Post Reply page! - Sandwich
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Are the signatures going to be changed/fixed much, or are you just leaving it for us todeal withget used to? :p
I'd really really really like to have the text not forced so far below top edge. The designer in me is just on edge every time I look at people's sigs around here. There's so much wasted space! Ok, I must stop, my designer skin is crawling. :nervous:
Basically, if the sigs must stay with the expandy-box, then I'll deal as long as the text can be placed at a normal distance from the top edge. Get 3 lines of text in there without being cutoff and I'll stop being a silly whiner about the rest.
EDIT: OK, that's just annoying. The sig centers itself in the expanded box even when not expanded. So it doesn't matter what size I set the font to, it will never let me adjust my sig so that it looks nice not-expanded. :(
Ok, I've made the changes, and I'm perfectly fine with the result. Thoughts?
Also, what do people think about the positioning of the "v Expand v" link/bar? As it is currently, to expand and then collapse, you have to move the cursor. Would it be better to have the bar at the top of the sig instead? The only issue I see with that would be that it might mess with the visual indication that the sigs are truncated...
You've had the new main page in development for something like four years. (And this version actually seems like a step backward from the previous one.) When are you going to finish it? :p
You've had the new main page in development for something like four years. (And this version actually seems like a step backward from the previous one.) When are you going to finish it? :pCould have sworn it has been more than four by far.
(And this version actually seems like a step backward from the previous one.)
Using current Chrome, yt tags seem to be broken, as in, all I get is [yt]blabla[/yt]
[yt time=000]blablabla[/yt] works for now, until it gets fixed.
Is it possible to make a dedicated mobile page instead of a one-size-fits-all? That way, the desktop version doesn't have to suffer when trying to accommodate for tablets and phones. Instead of one suboptimal page, we can have two more optimal ones. Is that something we can do?
I was reminded of this again when I went to this forum and saw how clean it was on my tablet: http://www.wildfiregames.com/forum/
Can we do something similar?
edit: Just to clarify, I love how it looks on desktop at the moment. I just don't want it changed for the worst. I still think mobile could be tweaked a lot more.
Can we get rid of the google ads if it isnt even working? That white box in mobile looks stupid.
Encountered a bug. Every time a poll is edited by whoever created it and is not a moderator, edit resets some of the poll's settings to default. I searched SMF forums and bug tracker and came up with nothing, so this leads me to ask whether this is a bug in the HLP theme or forum settings. Many of the settings that should be visible when editing a poll are missing, these settings are visible when creating new poll or when moderator edits the poll.
Poll layout is weird. Poll option texts are under poll checkbox, making it unnecessarily harder to see what's what.
Noticed that a critical SMF security update has been available for over a week now as well. Might want to check other apps have their security updates too.
EDIT: Also now there's an unsightly blank space to either side of the content, of about an inch in width.Did you try a hard refresh? It's Ctrl-F5 on Firefox.
EDIT: Also now there's an unsightly blank space to either side of the content, of about an inch in width.
The thing with SMF theming (and this has been the main thing discouraging me from doing anything in-depth) is that they do not have any sort of disconnect between form and function. So as we continue using this theme (which IIRC was based on SMF 2 RC2 I think?) and the forums continue to be updated with new patches, there will be a growing disconnect between the functionality provided and expected by the forum code, and the features that the theme has built in.I mean no disrespect or offence, and this post is not just about SMF themes but in general. If you don't have time, will or both to keep up with web application updates, then perhaps you should admit as much and request to have someone on-board who does. See, themes can have bugs and some of them may even be security related. So keeping themes up-to-date is important too. As a neat side-effect, custom theme stays consistent with default theme and there shouldn't be weird layout or color issues like there currently is in the HLP theme.