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Offline aRaven

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no, X- and E-Wing rule all!

 

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I agree with whoever said this looked viper-ish.

 

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Again, the more common refs for the E-wing look a lot like some old BSG material too, so I think it kind of fits.
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I like the new design, though it does not fit in at all with the relatively consistant design made years prior. For that reason a model like this might be better off being included in a "Reimagined Vehicles" mod set... For which case it would be perfect!

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Well, this is the version that's going in.  If you don't like it, feel free to model yourself an E-Wing and create a model pack.  I'm not going back and making a canon E-Wing, it's ugly, and it doesn't physically work.  How are we supposed to make fighters with a cockpit if the cockpit is too small to fit a person inside?  

I think this version is more believable than the canon version, which also has enough conflicting references to say that there is no real canon E-Wing in the first place.

Also, an update:

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In a way, either argument is valid. However, as I cannot make a decision upon the matter, I'll be happy with this one. That's a superb rendering, by the way...

By the way, after a quick analysis of the drawing I have on file, I have to disagree with the judgement that a pilot would be unable to fit into the cockpit. Rough estimations of size of the cockpit (given that the ship is 11.2 meters in length as is stated to be canon) lead me to conclude that the width of the base of the canopy is close to a meter, perhaps a little less. Cramped for a fighter, yes, but not impossible. I assume the Bf-109 would be worse... and that was real! I'll enclose the drawing just to be safe. Note that due to a lack of accurate measurement tools scaling via paper was performed; initial sizing reports might be a little off...

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« Last Edit: July 03, 2009, 02:19:46 am by Thaeris »
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Yeah I just did some scaling myself, the cockpit is slightly smaller than a Bf-109.  Perhaps feasible, but then we come to another problem.  If as you say the canon E-Wing sticks closely to what's been done before and looks more consistent with the universe, why do its predecessors have exceptionally roomy cockpits while the E-Wing barely has enough room for instrumentation, let alone flight controls?  Remember that the E-Wing is sure to have a helluva lot more going on in its cockpit than a Bf-109.

Also another update

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If i remember correctly the X-wing was quite cramped though having said that I remember on new jedi order book one of the jedi replaces the front cockpit panel with a non armored temporary stored in either the cockpit or the stowage space below the cockpit so that might be a misinterpretation on my part


btw very nice job so far
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Well, watching the Battle of Yavin, those X-Wing cockpits seem very roomy:

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLNZVinF6vQ
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtnu4kcKbik&feature=related

Also compare these two images, keeping in consideration that the F-16 is bigger than the X-Wing:

 
« Last Edit: July 03, 2009, 04:13:08 pm by brandx0 »
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Maybe Chewy is only 5'5 and everyone else in the SW universe is proportionately smaller.  :pimp:
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Offline aRaven

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Fact is, the new Ewing blows the old Ewing out of the water. No need for cockpit size debates.

 
I love the new E-wing, but I'm not quite sure what the nubs on the aft are supposed to be. I'm almost expecting more engines to be there in their place.

 

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Fact is, the new Ewing blows the old Ewing out of the water. No need for cockpit size debates.

I love the new E-Wing, but still find the cockpit size debates fascinating.  Without a diagram of the ship with measurements included, or a human pilot standing next to it for comparison, I have a hard time really determining if one could fit or not.  He'd have to be pretty reclined, probably, but otherwise it's hard to tell.

 

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Yes, the pilot seat is rather reclined, as I've planned it at least, We'll see how it works once I get the cockpit modeled.  The aft section is about as large as the X-Wing's, though slightly smaller vertically.  Horizontally is is much longer and the same width as the X-Wing's, an idea I came up with after putting a camera in the X-Wing cockpit and seeing how much view space you really had.  The answer was not much.

Also, ask and ye shall recieve:

« Last Edit: July 04, 2009, 05:17:37 am by brandx0 »
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the laser cannons could have some more detail/work, though

 

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Yes, the pilot seat is rather reclined, as I've planned it at least, We'll see how it works once I get the cockpit modeled.  The aft section is about as large as the X-Wing's, though slightly smaller vertically.  Horizontally is is much longer and the same width as the X-Wing's, an idea I came up with after putting a camera in the X-Wing cockpit and seeing how much view space you really had.  The answer was not much.

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Awesome!  Though I had no doubt about a pilot fitting in yours, what I was referring to was a pilot in comparison to the old stock E-Wing.  Either way, I think it's clear that snub fighters in general have very little room for comfort in the cockpit.

 

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the laser cannons could have some more detail/work, though

So should the bottom, the back, the sides, the top, the front...

It's not done.
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The more I see it (the reimagined E-Wing), the more I approve of it. I have no problem whatsoever with the new Z-95, though. Beautiful! Speaking of "old" ships, does anyone on your team have thoughts of making an R-41 Starchaser?

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Another update:

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