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Title: Freespace 2 image file
Post by: notenome on August 27, 2008, 07:15:49 pm
Hello there,

After going through the Freespace 2 campaign for the 798078th time I decided to give Inferno, the oh-so-famous mod a try. Unfortunately I'm using yee olde HotU version and it asks me to place a Freespace 2 cd in my drive. Since I have none, and can't find one, I can't play the campaign. If someone could link me an image or provide me with a functioning crack I'd much appreciate it.

And now a somewhat humorous vignette.

I'm actually the only person I know who bought Freespace 2. I was visiting in New York, saw it out of the corner of my eye and rushed in the store (2001 I believe). Unfortunately that was a long time ago and I've lost both the box and the CDs. Knowing what I know now I would have kept the box and ebayed if for 1000 dollars, I'm pretty sure there's at least one starved Freespace afficionado willing to shell out the cash to have an original box. You can also tell its something of a rarity when you read all the crazed theories about the Lucifer fleet in the wiki, which the box describes as a scouting party. Live and learn I suppose.

PS: When is Freespace 3 coming out? ... Sorry just had to do it, I figure it must be something of a tradition by now that everyone's first post in an FS forum has to be the same old question. Though the fact that Interplay began to sell some of its licenses gave me some hope. If its any consolation I have promised myself that if I ever strike it rich, I'm buying the damn license and giving it to Volition. No joke.
Title: Re: Freespace 2 image file
Post by: Titan on August 28, 2008, 12:24:53 am
:welcomeblue:

Get SCP, it's way better and theres a patch for INFR1.

Volition would just screw yo an o on making FPS games. way more... lucrative genre than campaign based space sims. not how i said lucrative instead of better... :doubt:

and i'll do everyone else a favor. after this post, never listen to me or believe anthing i say.
Title: Re: Freespace 2 image file
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on August 28, 2008, 12:33:20 am
PS: When is Freespace 3 coming out? ... Sorry just had to do it, I figure it must be something of a tradition by now that everyone's first post in an FS forum has to be the same old question. Though the fact that Interplay began to sell some of its licenses gave me some hope. If its any consolation I have promised myself that if I ever strike it rich, I'm buying the damn license and giving it to Volition. No joke.

        Probably never. But despite people's claims to the contrary (*cough* Snail *Cough*), it would be nice if it did.
Title: Re: Freespace 2 image file
Post by: Jeff Vader on August 28, 2008, 02:31:26 am
After going through the Freespace 2 campaign for the 798078th time I decided to give Inferno, the oh-so-famous mod a try. Unfortunately I'm using yee olde HotU version and it asks me to place a Freespace 2 cd in my drive. Since I have none, and can't find one, I can't play the campaign. If someone could link me an image or provide me with a functioning crack I'd much appreciate it.
FSO will negate any needs for CDs.

PS: When is Freespace 3 coming out? ... Sorry just had to do it, I figure it must be something of a tradition by now that everyone's first post in an FS forum has to be the same old question.
Actually, no. Most people start their HLP career by asking for help and/or saying how ****ing awesome FSO is. Maybe a few people per year accidentally ask about FS3. Which is not going to be released. Most likely.
Title: Re: Freespace 2 image file
Post by: eliex on August 28, 2008, 03:51:13 am
Interplay can't hold on to the Freespace game rights forever right? I heard someone post it was only till 2013.
Volition who is going reasonably well might just look this way and decide to get those rights and perhaps . . . just perhaps join teams with HLP.  :p

Title: Re: Freespace 2 image file
Post by: Jeff Vader on August 28, 2008, 04:01:19 am
But that's the point. It's all just "perhaps" and "possibly" and "maybe". I would have equal chances of being right if I claimed that Vasudans actually exist.

And I still don't understand why so many people are fascinated by this barely potential FS3. FS2 is fun. FS1 is fun. Majority of the usermade campaigns are fun. TCs are fun. Why do people still cry after FS3?
Title: Re: Freespace 2 image file
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on August 28, 2008, 04:20:45 am
And I still don't understand why so many people are fascinated by this barely potential FS3. FS2 is fun. FS1 is fun. Majority of the usermade campaigns are fun. TCs are fun. Why do people still cry after FS3?

     Uh. Because it'll be fun?
Title: Re: Freespace 2 image file
Post by: Jeff Vader on August 28, 2008, 04:39:41 am
And I still don't understand why so many people are fascinated by this barely potential FS3. FS2 is fun. FS1 is fun. Majority of the usermade campaigns are fun. TCs are fun. Why do people still cry after FS3?

     Uh. Because it'll be fun?
Awright, lemme put it this way. If a person already has a car, which is fun, why is he still waiting for his own space superiority fighter, which would also be fun but most likely won't be happening any time soon?
Title: Re: Freespace 2 image file
Post by: Snail on August 28, 2008, 05:24:02 am
        Probably never. But despite people's claims to the contrary (*cough* Snail *Cough*), it would be nice if it did.
Awww, **** off, grasshopper.

/me shoots Akalabeth Angel with two pistols

But seriously, where was that post of mine that detailed the reasons that FS3 shouldn't come out?
Title: Re: Freespace 2 image file
Post by: Jeff Vader on August 28, 2008, 05:29:34 am
The explanation on Kara's FAQ isn't bad, either. Though it probably focuses more on "wouldn't", isntead of "shouldn't".
Title: Re: Freespace 2 image file
Post by: notenome on August 28, 2008, 07:42:40 am
Alright I guess that joke became a little of an inside joke: I am and was fully aware of FS3 being an extremely thorny question for the FS community, I have seen numerous posts and even comics about people being tired and worn from answering. As for Volition, they've signalled on numerous occasions about being willing to make FS3, if they had the rights. As for why FS3, it's not because it'll be a fun game, but because of Vs (admitely brilliant) storytelling narrative leaves many things unexplained. Sol, shivans, ETAK, Capella, Bosch, all these things remain mysteries, as they should be. That not only makes sequels more pallatable (as it does away with ressurecting previously defeated foes: aka the Joker escapes Arkham or Diablo is back again) but makes them something of a necessity as well.
Title: Re: Freespace 2 image file
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on August 29, 2008, 08:55:04 am
Most people start their HLP career by asking for help and/or saying how ****ing awesome FSO is. Maybe a few people per year accidentally ask about FS3. Which is not going to be released. Most likely.

I started mine by posting a crash log. :p
Title: Re: Freespace 2 image file
Post by: Jeff Vader on August 29, 2008, 02:13:24 pm
But I assume you did it because you wanted help.

Or idk. You might have done it purely for teh kicks.
Title: Re: Freespace 2 image file
Post by: eliex on August 29, 2008, 09:42:38 pm
When I first joined up purely because I needed some help on how to get Fred2 Open up and working.
But I had haunted the forums long before then. :p
Title: Re: Freespace 2 image file
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on August 29, 2008, 10:05:01 pm
But I assume you did it because you wanted help.

Or idk. You might have done it purely for teh kicks.

Yes. I sorely needed help back then, but at that point, I was thinking that since I'm going to need a membership to get my message across, I might as well get my message across and hop onto the bandwagon. :p
Title: Re: Freespace 2 image file
Post by: Lucika on December 31, 2008, 09:24:04 pm
        Probably never. But despite people's claims to the contrary (*cough* Snail *Cough*), it would be nice if it did.
Awww, **** off, grasshopper.

/me shoots Akalabeth Angel with two pistols

But seriously, where was that post of mine that detailed the reasons that FS3 shouldn't come out?

I am just thinking...
Is it possible somehow (14-year-old, forgive me if its foolishness) that someone rich would
1) make a company,
2) contact Interplay and smack a lot of money in their face
3) with the licence he woult contact  :v: and smack another lot of money
4) :v: would make FS3 and everyone would be happy again :)


PS.: Or, for instance, HL or other FS-fans would make a company and star asking for donations as Wikipedia does right now... what do you think, is it possible? (not talking about the probabilities now)
Title: Re: Freespace 2 image file
Post by: Mongoose on January 01, 2009, 01:14:52 am
Not in the least.  If you'd like further details, the search function is a wonderful place to start. :p
Title: Re: Freespace 2 image file
Post by: Hellstryker on January 12, 2009, 07:17:13 am
Not this again...
Title: Re: Freespace 2 image file
Post by: Dilmah G on January 12, 2009, 07:53:58 am
@Lucika

Dude, because we share our age, I will forgive you, but those companies plan what they do with their money, resources etc the year before they sit down and work on something, and typically their projects last between 6 months to 3 years. If someone where to go smack a lot of money on the table and tell V to drop everything, they would politely show you the door. Also the following reasons might clarify it more

A) Why did they stop making the FS Series in the first place...
Because it wasn't financially viable, why was this? Because FS2 simply didn't sell well, what reason is there that people will now buy a sequal for a (close to becoming) 11 year old game. 

B) Especially these days, RTS, FPS and RPGs dominate the market, and i mean DOMINATE, V would see little point in trying to sell a game whose target audience are a tight knit group of hardcore gamers, back in the old days, Volition were pretty much a bunch of hardcore gamers.

C) The two writers for FS (can't remember their names) have most definitely moved onto bigger and better things, telling them to drop everything and resume writing and terminate their contracts is not such an attractive option. Other option being- hire new writers, here I'm going to voice my opinion, if FS3 is going to come out,  I don't want it to be a glorified piece of garbage in which Shivans now have feelings and emotions and wish to seek peace with the Terrans, and the Vasudans are a bunch of porn watching, sand eating (and head eating might I add) SOB's, and the Terrans are more concerned with the fashion of their uniforms than the fate of the alliance.
Title: Re: Freespace 2 image file
Post by: Woomeister on January 12, 2009, 11:50:28 am
On the subject of Volition and FS3:
Quote from: V-HarlequiN on Saints Row2 Forum
I'm not sure how much I can say regarding this without getting into trouble. :)

Basically Volition/THQ no longer holds the rights to the Freespace name and Universe, so it would be fairly unlikely to see a continuation in the foreseeable future.

With that said, things can change, so maybe one day.

If there ever was a continuation though I think it most likely that Volition and THQ would both want to see the series brought to modern consoles.

It's a very common question - maybe we should have an FAQ on the Volition website, consisting solely of that question and answer
http://community.saintsrow.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=20933
Title: Re: Freespace 2 image file
Post by: eliex on January 12, 2009, 05:55:12 pm
Hmm, I'd like to see how many sales FS:TGW/FS2 did GoG get so far. It's 2nd top seller apparently.
Title: Re: Freespace 2 image file
Post by: CaptJosh on January 14, 2009, 11:16:02 am
It has become a cult classic, this is true. However, those top sales, those are top among obsolete games. No where near what a hit RTS gets when it gets put out on the shelves. Also , those are all-time figures. You can't rely on all-time sales in the retail market. If it doesn't sell well right away, you're hosed.
Title: Re: Freespace 2 image file
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on January 14, 2009, 11:26:52 am
Quite true. A few hundred purchases in a week won't be enough for game developers these days. They need to sell thousands of game copies a month to make a living, and that's being optimistic in my opinion.

I will never understand how or why D3 and FS2 sold poorly. They're some of the better games that I've ever known, comparable to MS-DOS games like Tyrian or Raptor.
Title: Re: Freespace 2 image file
Post by: ShadowGorrath on January 14, 2009, 06:30:41 pm
The reason for the poor sales is because of poor advertising. Heck, I didn't even know that such things as FreeSpace2 and FreeSpace1 exist at all, until Vasudan Commander showed me a video of FS2 and suggested me to get the game.

Oh yeah, thank Vasudan Commander that I'm here on HLP. Otherwise there wouldn't be ASW, EW and multiple other mods in the works. There'd be one more, I guess, if he wasn't banned.
Title: Re: Freespace 2 image file
Post by: eliex on January 14, 2009, 11:57:43 pm
No where near what a hit RTS gets when it gets put out on the shelves.

Just look at how excited everyone is at the dual release of Starcraft 2 and Dow II. Even the exclusive Dow II beta has made a few people last-minute buy a valid copy of Soulstorm.
Title: Re: Freespace 2 image file
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on January 15, 2009, 12:44:07 am
I learned about FS2 through the trailer, which was included in Disc 2 of Descent 3.
Title: Re: Freespace 2 image file
Post by: Killer Whale on January 15, 2009, 05:22:23 am
why don't the guys here make a mod, so great, that it's not even freespace 2, it's basically freespace 3, i dunno, with an in-game model builder and fantastic graphics or something... hmmm, how could you improve freespace 2, um... what i said, but, not so nube.


Well, get deep into the games core and create a really great open

SCP pretty well fits into that, um, just play more scp and forget about capella, ETAK, bosche, etc. Or just angrily debate over the freespace forum. Or both.
Title: Re: Freespace 2 image file
Post by: Jeff Vader on January 15, 2009, 05:34:46 am
Oh yeah, thank Vasudan Commander that I'm here on HLP. Otherwise there wouldn't be ASW, EW and multiple other mods in the works. There'd be one more, I guess, if he wasn't banned.
You sure he's banned? I don't recall that happening, although I do have memories of him getting monkeyed.

why don't the guys here make a mod, so great, that it's not even freespace 2, it's basically freespace 3, i dunno
Because (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/karajorma/FAQ/general.html#MakeFS3).
Title: Re: Freespace 2 image file
Post by: ShadowGorrath on January 15, 2009, 05:35:11 am
That's how Earth Defense is, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Freespace 2 image file
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on January 15, 2009, 07:02:32 am
There was a Vasudan Commander? :eek:
Title: Re: Freespace 2 image file
Post by: CaptJosh on January 23, 2009, 10:38:54 am
Um, isn't Earth Defense still being made? All I've seen is one demo download, and a teaser video or three.
Title: Re: Freespace 2 image file
Post by: ShadowGorrath on January 23, 2009, 02:40:25 pm
Earth Defense is being made, and much better than ever.

Vasudan Commander was making Destruction/Indestructible. Would have aided it, and gotten the mod to a serious start, hopefully.
Title: Re: Freespace 2 image file
Post by: Snail on January 23, 2009, 02:57:07 pm
Oh yeah, thank Vasudan Commander that I'm here on HLP. Otherwise there wouldn't be ASW, EW and multiple other mods in the works. There'd be one more, I guess, if he wasn't banned.
I don't think he was banned. He went on a long absence after being monkeyed for posting illegal free anime links to YouTube, and just general misconduct which honestly I don't blame him for. Due to his title ("Biggest n00b on HLP -- And proud of it!") a lot of people went against him and generally berated him for the few (albeit rather large) mistakes he made earlier. He wasn't banned like takashi was, he just left of his own accord.

At least that's what I think happened. If he was banned then I think that'd be a sad ending to a stupid story, because I liked that guy and worked on one of his mods (Destruction). He was cool.

Um, isn't Earth Defense still being made? All I've seen is one demo download, and a teaser video or three.
It is still in production (I am working on it).

The demo never happened. You hear me? Never. ****ing. Happened!

Vasudan Commander was making Destruction/Indestructible. Would have aided it, and gotten the mod to a serious start, hopefully.
Our main goal on making Destruction was not to make FS3, it was just to make a big mod with some moral statement that the true destroyers were humanity/Vasudans. It's really no wonder it didn't really start because it was overly ambitious and we really had no one to convert the very few models we made. I was actually aware of this at the time - I was apprehensive at that point but I believed that once we got started, our momentum would carry us through to the end, which is why I joined it. Of course we never got this momentum.

Destruction went down the drain because Commander, the project lead, decided to disappear indefinitely (an absence which he still has not returned from) and the decapitated project dissolved literally the very day following Commander's disappearance. Luckily, Earth Defense got past that early volatile stage where just a few people were holding the mod together, and I have faith that Earth Defense will definitely be completed eventually if not soon.
Title: Re: Freespace 2 image file
Post by: ShadowGorrath on January 23, 2009, 05:09:13 pm
Vasudan Commander is banned. Problems with authority. But, well, who cares. . . And Destruction has nothing to do with Earth Defense.
Title: Re: Freespace 2 image file
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on January 23, 2009, 10:24:27 pm
Well, from the posts above, Destruction is a separate mod, right? :confused:
Title: Re: Freespace 2 image file
Post by: Snail on January 24, 2009, 07:36:03 am
Well, from the posts above, Destruction is a separate mod, right? :confused:
Destruction is a dead mod that has nothing to do with anything.
Title: Re: Freespace 2 image file
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on January 24, 2009, 11:18:11 pm
I take that as a yes. :drevil: