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Title: Known Squads in FS2
Post by: Sheepy on September 15, 2002, 03:00:10 pm
Ok this started off as part of the DatDB project, but now its kind of grown. So here is the list of squads in fs2, mods i know, and a couple of ones i have "thrown" in. Feel free to add to them, and if you have a squad logo for any of them it would be much appritated :D

Well here it is

The list of known FS2 squadrons to date

1st Avenging Angels
2nd Shattered Stars
13th Reapers
17th Hellcats
18th Grizzlies
19th (Destroyed trying to protect 3rd Fleet HQ)
23rd Flying Panthers
25th Hands of God
26th White Tigers
28th Black Sheep
43rd Da-Bomb Squad
47th Cutthroats
33rd Jokers
33rd (Vasudan Squadron)
39th Scarlet Fangs
49th Falcons
53rd Hammerheads
58th Wild Cards
61st Bulldogs
64th Raptors
66th Black Knights
67th Desperados
70th Blue Lions
73rd Crazy Ivans
76th Yankees
77th Deadly Sevens
79th Predators
81st Screaming Weasels
83rd White Pumas
85th Guiding Stars
87th Space Cowboys
91st Evil Eyes
92nd Lonestars
92nd (Vasudan Squadron)
99th Skulls
101st Aces
103rd Flaming Skulls
105th Gunslingers
107th Ravens
108th Wraiths
109th Black Panthers
110th Stalking Moons
116th Golden Eagles
125th (Vasudan Squadron)
134th Barracudas
161st (Vasudan Squadron)
180th Man Bombers
185th (NTF squadron)
203rd (Vasudan Squadron)
204th Rattlers
212th Silver Scythes
223rd Wing Raptors
242nd Suicide Kings
228th (Vasudan Squadron)
301st Tsunamis
309th (Helps protect the Vega Node)
332nd Black Mantas
636th Wolfpack
666th Devil’s Disciples



As i said feel free to add in, and any logos you can put forward will be much appritated :D
Credit to Su-Teph for supplying the main body of this for me
Title: Known Squads in FS2
Post by: Anaz on September 15, 2002, 03:32:07 pm
lol...the 666th....
Title: Known Squads in FS2
Post by: Thor on September 15, 2002, 04:19:36 pm
don't forget the 77th Blades, stationed in far off Tania Austrailis.  (ITHOV:thepimp: )
Title: Known Squads in FS2
Post by: Killfrenzy on September 15, 2002, 05:16:13 pm
Don't forget the 49th Falcons.........no wait, that's my squadron at the start of the Swarm War.............;7
Title: Known Squads in FS2
Post by: Sheepy on September 15, 2002, 05:53:36 pm
the idea is that it includes that of mods made by us lot as well, there wouldnt be that much other wise, oh and dont suppose some one knows some FS1 squads do they?
Title: Known Squads in FS2
Post by: Su-tehp on September 15, 2002, 07:09:35 pm
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Originally posted by Analazon
lol...the 666th....


lol, Analazon, I remember hearing about a Navy Reserve squadron that flies f-14 Tomcats called the Devil's Disciples. The name was memorable enough that I wanted to use the name for one of my FS2 squads in DatDB. Problem was, I couldn't remeber the Disciples' squad number.

666th seemed perfectly appropriate... *shrugs*;7 :D

Oh, Sheepy, about that angel pic you sent me (archangel.pcx), I know I said I wanted it for the Archangel squad, but it might be of better use for the 1st Avenging Angels, now that I think about it. we can find or make a new pic for the Archangel Squadron, once I give them a number.
Title: Known Squads in FS2
Post by: Sheepy on September 15, 2002, 07:13:27 pm
rgr rgr, im working on squad pics at the moment, do u agree witht he squads an numbers up here at the moment, does anything need changing?

Oh nad the balck panther img i sent u was one of mine, so no problems there ...
Title: Known Squads in FS2
Post by: Su-tehp on September 15, 2002, 09:17:26 pm
The list here seems fine for now, I don't think anything needs to be changed.

And good job on the black panther pic. I imagined the pather to be walking in a profile position, but the one you sent is PERFECT, so don't worry about having to change it. :nod:
Title: Known Squads in FS2
Post by: Su-tehp on September 16, 2002, 04:09:06 am
Sheepy, don't forget to add the 105th Gunslingers and the 25th Hands of God to this list. Also, change the 180th from the Flaming Skulls to the Mad Bombers. (The Flaming Skulls are the 103rd now.)

If there are others that need to be added to this list, make sure to add them as needed.

The Gunslingers logo was a good logo, BTW. :nod:

Oh, BTW, I also managed to find my old original copies of the 92nd Lonestars, 322nd Black Mantas and the 636th Wolfpack. I know you already sent me a new version of the 636th and it's good, I like it. Feel free to make brand new copies of the 92nd and 332nd, I'd like to see what you come up with.

And Sheepy, once you make more logos, be sure to add them to this list. I'll copy and paste this list into my DatDB notes once we have all the squads and their logos accounted for.
Title: Known Squads in FS2
Post by: HAF-Guntharg on September 16, 2002, 05:32:46 am
When you say known squads, are you talking about the ones on SW.com which fly SW, or ones in the actual game itself, or both??
Title: Known Squads in FS2
Post by: Sheepy on September 16, 2002, 08:09:28 am
Well known FS2 FS squads, from FS1&2, and mods people have made, and there are acouple of SW ones thrown in as well, but only those that are belivabe.
Title: Known Squads in FS2
Post by: Mad Bomber on September 16, 2002, 11:06:47 am
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Originally posted by Su-tehp
Also, change the 180th from the Flaming Skulls to the Mad Bombers.


:D:D:D:D

You know I HAVE to download a campaign with that squadron in it...
Title: Known Squads in FS2
Post by: BlackDove on September 16, 2002, 11:06:51 am
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Originally posted by Sheepy
Well known FS2 FS squads, from FS1&2, and mods people have made, and there are acouple of SW ones thrown in as well, but only those that are belivabe.


You mean only the ones that had freaking numbers? :-P

And why are we second :wtf: ;);)

We better be in the SOC =PPPPPPPPPPPP
Title: Known Squads in FS2
Post by: Sheepy on September 16, 2002, 11:13:16 am
lol QD wanted u in #1 but thats taken by an original squad :D
Title: Known Squads in FS2
Post by: Mad Bomber on September 16, 2002, 11:14:58 am
How about the 81st Knights of Ni? ;)

I can see Fais screaming "CHOCOLATE FRENZIIEEE" already :D

(if you dont know what im talking about, read Nodewars)

(Hell, read nodewars anyway)
Title: Known Squads in FS2
Post by: Su-tehp on September 16, 2002, 11:16:17 am
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Originally posted by BD
You mean only the ones that had freaking numbers? :-P


Hey, all the squads in the original FS2 campaign had numbers. Don't blame us, we're just going along with FS canon! ;)

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Originally posted by BD
And why are we second :wtf: ;);)


Because you're not first. :p:D

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Originally posted by BD
We better be in the SOC =PPPPPPPPPPPP


That can be arranged...for a price...

I'm not sure if you'd be willing to pay it, though...muahahahah....:lol: :drevil: ;)

EDIT: Oh, Sheepy, the "Mad" in "Mad Bombers" is spelled with a "d", not an "n". Just thought I'd point that out. :D
Title: Known Squads in FS2
Post by: Sheepy on September 16, 2002, 11:23:01 am
my bad, one thing, am i allowed to give these logos out? or they private for the moment?
Title: Known Squads in FS2
Post by: Su-tehp on September 16, 2002, 11:29:04 am
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Originally posted by Sheepy
my bad, one thing, am i allowed to give these logos out? or they private for the moment?


Keep them private for now, I want to be able to approve or disapprove of them before we give them out for distribution. I imagine that we can post them on the DatDB site for public download soon.

I think Lone will like that idea, especially since he just posted your new campaign maps there. :nod:

Oh, one other thing, the Wild Cards logo, was that taken from the old TV show "Space: Above and beyond"? It looks familliar. Also, I think that logo could be cleaned up a little, it looks "fuzzy" and low-res. Can you fix this?
Title: Known Squads in FS2
Post by: Sheepy on September 16, 2002, 11:35:15 am
No worries, its not in the latest pack anyway i dont think .....

And pimpage (http://www.planetugc.com/datb/) :thepimp:
Title: Known Squads in FS2
Post by: BlackDove on September 16, 2002, 11:39:05 am
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Originally posted by Su-tehp
That can be arranged...for a price...

I'm not sure if you'd be willing to pay it, though...muahahahah....:lol: :drevil: ;)


What is it? And we damn better be in SOC...there ain't a squad alive that can beat QD and myself... ;)
Title: Known Squads in FS2
Post by: Sheepy on September 16, 2002, 11:52:12 am
i have to say i think they are the best pilots on PXO ..... i wonder if we could get u guys into the story some whre ..... then again, calling a pilot quantum delta would be alil wierd seeing as its a ship in fs1 IIRC, but anyway ......... time shall tell.

And its not up to me anyway :p
Title: Known Squads in FS2
Post by: BlackDove on September 16, 2002, 12:04:58 pm
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Originally posted by Sheepy
calling a pilot quantum delta  


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Actually I don't know if anyone noticed, but Black Dove is already being used by lt.cmdr. Snipes (well it WAS used by him..for the past 3 years it's been mine :p ) ;)
Title: Known Squads in FS2
Post by: Su-tehp on September 16, 2002, 12:17:51 pm
Sheepy, two things.

Thing the First: Make sure to add the 17th Hell Cats to the list. (That was another good logo, did you make that one or did you find it somewhere?)

Second Thing: I found the logo for the 125th (Vasudan squadron), so you don't need to make a new logo for that squad.

As for getting the 2nd Shattered Stars into the DatDB story, that may be feasible...

What do you guys think, doesn't the 2nd Shattered Stars sound like a good name for a bombing squadron? :)
Title: Known Squads in FS2
Post by: Sheepy on September 16, 2002, 12:27:14 pm
and when are you like gonna send me these logos :p
Title: Known Squads in FS2
Post by: CP5670 on September 16, 2002, 12:52:47 pm
I noticed in the other thread that you also wanted the logos; you probably already have the ones from PI in the last test version but if not I can mail them to you.
Title: Known Squads in FS2
Post by: Sheepy on September 16, 2002, 12:55:20 pm
No worries Cp i have them here, btw do the squads have a name, infact do vasudan squads have names?
Title: Known Squads in FS2
Post by: CP5670 on September 16, 2002, 12:56:18 pm
actually the Vasudan squads in the main campaign all seem to be numbered only, so I decided to stick with that convention in my campaign.
Title: Known Squads in FS2
Post by: BlackDove on September 16, 2002, 01:00:36 pm
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Originally posted by Su-tehp
What do you guys think, doesn't the 2nd Shattered Stars sound like a good name for a bombing squadron? :)


Why do you insult me like that? ;););)
Title: Known Squads in FS2
Post by: Sheepy on September 16, 2002, 01:05:14 pm
I knew you wouldnt like it, but i wasnt going to say anything, i would recommend that 2nd shattered stars should be above 99th skulls, but people just wont take that now will they :rolleyes:
Title: Known Squads in FS2
Post by: Stunaep on September 16, 2002, 01:34:18 pm
if so, then so:

87th Space Cowboys, from LM.
Title: Known Squads in FS2
Post by: QuantumDelta on September 16, 2002, 02:02:16 pm
There's no ship in FS1 Called QuantumDelta, if you ever DID find something like that, it was either one of my very early Jenova Campaign missions or something someone made after I left :wtf:

As for BD and I being in the campaign, We are the best 2v2 fighters, I wouldn't garantee it on bombage, so it's not logical :P

With the style we play at the moment we'd be something of a reinforcement wing that basically always gets the job done :P If everything goes to hell we handle it...heh, at least that's the kind of situation we're dealing with in PXO/SW for now =]

(Yeah, I really don't wanna be a bomber O.o, I don't even mind dying if I get to be a really kick ass fighter :P)
You'll work something out ;)


Anyways, I'm most of the way through flying the FS1 campaign for you bro, there's no signs of the stuff you were looking for...

Still a few more missions to go, and even if that fails, I have a few number wise tricks up my sleeve :drevil:
Title: Known Squads in FS2
Post by: Sheepy on September 16, 2002, 02:10:55 pm
No worries bro, thanks anyway.

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With the style we play at the moment we'd be something of a reinforcement wing that basically always gets the job done :P If everything goes to hell we handle it...heh, at least that's the kind of situation we're dealing with in PXO/SW for now =]


Sanitizing (sp?)

And i doubt very much bombing is exactly shattered star material, ill have a word with su-teph, we will see what we can arrange :D;7
Title: Known Squads in FS2
Post by: BlackDove on September 16, 2002, 02:13:58 pm
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Originally posted by QuantumDelta
Still a few more missions to go, and even if that fails, I have a few number wise tricks up my sleeve :drevil:


AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH HE'S GONNA USE WISE TRICKS!!!!!!! ;)

Seriously, what the duck-batter said above goes for me too, bombers are really not my style, but I know him and I could take out fleets with what we can do (bwahaha those 50 sekhmets were fun). I don't mind dying or being a reinforcment if its entailed that I can remove a lotta behinds O.o
Title: Known Squads in FS2
Post by: Su-tehp on September 16, 2002, 05:41:03 pm
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Originally posted by CP5670
I noticed in the other thread that you also wanted the logos; you probably already have the ones from PI in the last test version but if not I can mail them to you.


Gimme gimme gimme! I'm your project leader! I command you to give me those logos...

Oh, wait. The PI logos are technically PI property, not DatDB property. And since CP is the project leader of PI, I can't order him to just give me the PI logos, despite the fact that I'm the project leader of DatDB.

Whoops, my bad! :o

Seriously, CP, I'd like to take a look at your logos, especially for the Vasudan squads. Which squadrons were these logos made for?

And Sheepy, I'll send you the 332nd Black Manta, 92nd Lonestars and the 125th Vasudan logos in a little while. I gotta take care of this research project for my Corporations law class due Friday. I think I might have to slog through 30 pages of NY statutes and then I have to start writing...

Fortunately, the paper only has to be two pages long, but as of now, I have NO idea what I'm gonna write. :doubt:

I'll send the logos when I have some free time, this weekend at the latest, hopefully sooner.
Title: Known Squads in FS2
Post by: Sheepy on September 16, 2002, 05:52:02 pm
No rush mate, im going to bed now and wont be around tomorrow morning so its no worries. Ill send u the latest insignia pack tomorrow as well.
Title: Known Squads in FS2
Post by: CP5670 on September 16, 2002, 09:21:12 pm
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Seriously, CP, I'd like to take a look at your logos, especially for the Vasudan squads. Which squadrons were these logos made for?


Hey, no problem. :D Do you want me to simply email them to you? (they are for the 92nd, 161st and 228th vasudan squadrons)
Title: Known Squads in FS2
Post by: Su-tehp on September 16, 2002, 09:29:44 pm
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Originally posted by CP5670


Hey, no problem. :D Do you want me to simply email them to you? (they are for the 92nd, 161st and 228th vasudan squadrons)


Hell, yes, winzip 'em and e-mail them to me.

Just out of curiosity, would you be averse to renumbering the 92nd? I think whoever made the 92nd Lonestars logo came out with that before you came out with the 92nd Vasudan logo, so I want to give the "92nd" number to the Lonestars. Is this okay with you?

BTW, if you want me to send you the logos for the 332nd Black mantas, the 92nd Lonestars and the 125th Vasudan, just say the word. I already sent them off to Sheepy (but he's probably asleep as I type this).
Title: Known Squads in FS2
Post by: CP5670 on September 16, 2002, 09:36:20 pm
Actually, I would do that but the thing is that the logo has the number on it, and I unfortunately don't have a copy of it without the number anymore. (so to change it)

It's alright though, since the Lonestars appears to be a Terran suqadron while this is a Vasudan one, so things would still be consistent. ;) (this happened once or twice in the main campaign; note the two 33rd squads)

Anyway, the stuff has been sent.

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BTW, if you want me to send you the logos for the 332nd Black mantas, the 92nd Lonestars and the 125th Vasudan, just say the word. I already sent them off to Sheepy (but he's probably asleep as I type this).


That would be great actually; I always like to have all the squad logos around. :D

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(but he's probably asleep as I type this)


lol, I just woke up about a hour ago, so I will probably be awake until 7 or 8 in the morning. :D
Title: Known Squads in FS2
Post by: Su-tehp on September 16, 2002, 10:02:55 pm
CP, are you sure that squad numbers get repeated between Terran and Vasudan squads? I remeber the tech database saying that both the Terran and vasudan fleets, while operating separately, they are both under a unified command, so it would make sense to me that Vasudan and Terran squads would NOT repeat the squad numbers. Since there is a pilot exchange program between Terran and Vasudan fighter squads, it would make sense to have separate numbers for both types of squads. In that light, I think it would be a good idea not to repeat the numbers between Terran and vasudan squads.

Is there anything in FS canon to refute me?

Oh, BTW, Sheepy and everyone else, I found another original FS2 logo: it's the cartoonish one of a black sheep wearing a pilot's scarf and holding a pilot's helmet (the pic is named "sheepsquad.pcx"; it can be accessed using vpview). Thus, we have a new squad to add to the list: The Black Sheep.

There's no number on the logo, so we need to give the Black Sheep a number.

I also found the deathsquad.pcx logo in the original FS2 files (skull and wingbones on a reddish-black shield). It's a cool logo, so we need to come up with a squad name that has the word "death" in it. Can anyone look at this logo and give suggestions?

I'm still trying to find that blue and turquoise logo (blue chevron thingie next to a small blue-white star inside a turquoise rectangle). It's an original logo which I GUESS is vasudan simply because it's an esoteric logo that seems to be similar in vein to the 203rd Vasudan logo (geometric shape that doesn't seem to connotate anything). Can anyone tell me what this logo's name is so I can find it?

EDIT: NM, I just found it, it's called "tsusquad.pcx". I wonder, does "tsu" stand for "Tsunami"? I remember we have the 301st Tsunami squad in our list...but this pic doesn't seem to connotate a tsunami, it seems more like a Vasudan logo.
Title: Known Squads in FS2
Post by: QuantumDelta on September 16, 2002, 10:31:49 pm
Just a little ponderer :P
Isn't it something along the lines of for every battle group the numbers are clean?
You could have multiple instances of 33rd or whatever as long as it's a different group...
it's just a pain in the butt to write'em all out so..no one ever bothered unless they're actually needed (hense you only ever get "cool names" for squads in films/games/etc, heh...).
Title: Known Squads in FS2
Post by: CP5670 on September 16, 2002, 10:45:37 pm
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In that light, I think it would be a good idea not to repeat the numbers between Terran and vasudan squads.

Is there anything in FS canon to refute me?


At the moment I can think of the two 33rd squadrons that are both mentioned in FS2, and I think 67th might have appeared somewhere in there as well. It seems okay to me to repeat the numbers though. After all, we know they repeat the fleet numbers, and while pilots are exchanged all the time the squadrons always remain on the same ship (unless the ship is decommisioned or destroyed, but even then it is always ship of the same species), so it would be fine to have repeating numbers when different species are involved.

Now regarding the official squadlogos that were not used in the main campaign, I think we should assign them numbers as well. A few comments though:

The deathsquad one does not appear to have a number; it could be called Death Squad or Death Skulls.

The scorpsquad logos are all NTF squadrons, which do not appear to have names. (btw notice the similarity with these and the Nod logo from the C&C games ;))

Then we have the two rgrdgr things; what on earth could that mean? Roger Dodgers or Roger Daggers don't make much sense but that is the only stuff I can think of that would fit.

I cannot quite tell what that tsusquad logo is supposed to be either. Tsunami is the only word I can think of that would fit there, but the logo is not exactly a tsunami. (actually, I am unsure of what the logo depicts in the first place) Although as you said, the abstraction suggests a Vasudan logo in which case no name would be needed.

Also, the 109th in the above list should be called the Flaming Skulls rather than the 103rd, since that logo has the 109 number on it.

BTW I just noticed that the planet in the 107th Ravens logo is the same as the briefing icon one and the planetf one. :D
Title: Known Squads in FS2
Post by: Su-tehp on September 16, 2002, 11:10:17 pm
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Originally posted by CP5670
At the moment I can think of the two 33rd squadrons that are both mentioned in FS2, and I think 67th might have appeared somewhere in there as well. It seems okay to me to repeat the numbers though. After all, we know they repeat the fleet numbers, and while pilots are exchanged all the time the squadrons always remain on the same ship (unless the ship is decommisioned or destroyed, but even then it is always ship of the same species), so it would be fine to have repeating numbers when different species are involved.


Can you find the instance where the 33rd was repeated? I want to check this myself, as well.

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Originally posted by CP5670
Now regarding the official squadlogos that were not used in the main campaign, I think we should assign them numbers as well. A few comments though:

The deathsquad one does not appear to have a number; it could be called Death Squad or Death Skulls.


That's one suggestions; I await others. :)

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Originally posted by CP5670
The scorpsquad logos are all NTF squadrons, which do not appear to have names. (btw notice the similarity with these and the Nod logo from the C&C games ;))


Never played C&C, but yeah, all the NTF squads had the scorpion tail motif; I wonder what Bosch thought about this? :wtf:

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Originally posted by CP5670
Then we have the two rgrdgr things; what on earth could that mean? Roger Dodgers or Roger Daggers don't make much sense but that is the only stuff I can think of that would fit.


These pirate skull and crossbone pics (including the 99th Skulls logo) are known as "jolly rogers"; the "rodger dodger" thing was probably an inside joke between the game designers.

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Originally posted by CP5670
I cannot quite tell what that tsusquad logo is supposed to be either. Tsunami is the only word I can think of that would fit there, but the logo is not exactly a tsunami. (actually, I am unsure of what the logo depicts in the first place) Although as you said, the abstraction suggests a Vasudan logo in which case no name would be needed.


Yah, I agree, the "tsusquad" pic DOES look Vasudan, so let's use it as such.

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Originally posted by CP5670
Also, the 109th in the above list should be called the Flaming Skulls rather than the 103rd, since that logo has the 109 number on it.


Sheepy and I found a briefing ani (one of the first ones in the original campaign for the 53rd Hammerhead training missions at the start of the game) that shows the names for 10 squads that were stationed on the GTD Bastion during the First Great war. The squad named the "Flaming Skulls was DEFINITELY numbered the 103rd (Sheepy and I both checked it). The 109th number on the logo is either a typo or an oversight. I'm going with the briefing ani.

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Originally posted by CP5670
BTW I just noticed that the planet in the 107th Ravens logo is the same as the briefing icon one and the planetf one. :D


I always thought that the "planet" in the Ravens logo was the Moon. It always seemed like the Moon to me...I mean, who associates ravens with extraterrestrial planets? Ravens have always been associated with night and the Moon since time immemorial, IIRC. (Just read Poe's poem "The Raven" or go see the movie "The Crow.") Then again, they've been associated with the day and as servants of the Sun as well.

But, yeah, I always thought it was the Moon on the 107th logo.
Title: Known Squads in FS2
Post by: CP5670 on September 16, 2002, 11:24:33 pm
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Can you find the instance where the 33rd was repeated? I want to check this myself, as well.


We have the 33rd Jokers in that Bastion squadron animation, and the 33rd Vasudan squadron in sm2-05. (when Epsilon arrives they say they are from the 33rd squadron aboard the GVD Memphis)

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Never played C&C, but yeah, all the NTF squads had the scorpion tail motif; I wonder what Bosch thought about this? :wtf:


Then again, I suppose it makes sense considering he wasn't all that proud of the NTF... :p

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These pirate skull and crossbone pics (including the 99th Skulls logo) are known as "jolly rogers"; the "rodger dodger" thing was probably an inside joke between the game designers.


That's what I thought too, but do the logos represent squads?

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Sheepy and I found a briefing ani (one of the first ones in the original campaign for the 53rd Hammerhead training missions at the start of the game) that shows the names for 10 squads that were stationed on the GTD Bastion during the First Great war. The squad named the "Flaming Skulls was DEFINITELY numbered the 103rd (Sheepy and I both checked it). The 109th number on the logo is either a typo or an oversight. I'm going with the briefing ani.


Hmm, I checked this out and you are right that there is an inconsistency here. Which is to be considered more accurate though?

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I always thought that the "planet" in the Ravens logo was the Moon. It always seemed like the Moon to me...I mean, who associates ravens with extraterrestrial planets? Ravens have always been associated with night and the Moon since time immemorial, IIRC. (Just read Poe's poem "The Raven" or go see the movie "The Crow.") Then again, they've been associated with the day and as servants of the Sun as well.


I suppose one could associate anything with just about anything else... :D
Title: Known Squads in FS2
Post by: Su-tehp on September 16, 2002, 11:43:57 pm
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Originally posted by CP5670
We have the 33rd Jokers in that Bastion squadron animation, and the 33rd Vasudan squadron in sm2-05. (when Epsilon arrives they say they are from the 33rd squadron aboard the GVD Memphis)


Good eye, CP, I missed this. I'll double check it, but you haven't gone wrong on specific canon references yet. :nod:

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Then again, I suppose it makes sense considering he wasn't all that proud of the NTF... :p


Yah, true.

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Originally posted by CP5670
That's what I thought too, but do the logos represent squads?


None that I have seen, certainly nothing in FS canon. No squads mentioned in the original campaign used these jolly roger logos, with the exception of the 99th Skulls. Now that I think about it, these other jolly roger pics may have been possible candidates for the 99th Skulls logo. :v: picked the non-sword, non-headscarf logo to represent the 99th and probably forgot to delete the other jolly roger pics. (It's as good an explanation as any.)

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Hmm, I checked this out and you are right that there is an inconsistency here. Which is to be considered more accurate though?


IMO, I think the ani is better, especially since the jolly roger logos don't seem to mean anything, so the 109th Flaming Skulls logo is probably not accurate either.

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I suppose one could associate anything with just about anything else... :D


Yeah, kinda how you associate numbers with the word "fun" and also how you associate women with the words "ugh, no thanks..." :p:D
Title: Known Squads in FS2
Post by: Su-tehp on September 17, 2002, 12:52:02 am
I've made a decision. IIRC, the Wild Cards was a squad in the sci fi show "Space: Above and Beyond". (I'm still a little pissed that show only lasted one measly season, but I'll rant about that later.) But in "Space: Above and Beyond", the Wild cards were given 58th as their number.

What I want to do is this: change the Wild Cards number from 28th back to 58th, and have the Black Sheep with the 28th as their number. In other words, add to/modify the squad list like this:

28th Black Sheep
58th Wild Cards

We'll use the "sheepsquad.pcx" logo for the 28th. The Wild Cards logo needs to be touched up/improved, but you already know about this, Sheepy. Take as much time as you need.

EDIT: Something else: the "deathsquad.pcx" logo will be named as "the Death's Heads." I still gotta assign them a number, though...
Title: Known Squads in FS2
Post by: Sheepy on September 17, 2002, 08:43:47 am
You guys like keeping me busy,

Ok as for the jolly roger logo's, i think there are just in there for fluff like the V logo, they are there for a larger choice of SW/PXO logo's if u know what i mean, i already have a 103rd falming skulls pic, so no worries there and im updating the list not.

Oh, the Tsunami squad was given to me by ivan i think for his new mod, so i doubt it relates to the logo in question.

Most of the Squads in the VP files arnt used, the ones i put in were the ones i liked if u know what i mean, but if u want the other adding no probs..... think i got every thing...
Title: Known Squads in FS2
Post by: Sheepy on September 17, 2002, 08:55:19 am
Ok this is my latest list, with squads and the logos have made/found for them, just so u know how progress is going on them.

Squads and there Logo’s

1st Avenging Angels - Done
2nd Shattered Stars - Done
13th Reapers
17th Hellcats - Done
18th Grizzlies
19th (Destroyed trying to protect 3rd Fleet HQ)
23rd Flying Panthers
25th Hands of God - Done
26th White Tigers - Done
28th Black Sheep - Done
43rd Da-Bomb Squad - Done
47th Cutthroats
33rd Jokers
33rd (Vasudan Squadron)
39th Scarlet Fangs
49th Falcons
53rd Hammerheads
58th Wild Cards
61st Bulldogs - Done
64th Raptors - Done
66th Black Knights
67th Desperados - Done
70th Blue Lions - Done
73rd Crazy Ivans
76th Yankees
77th Deadly Sevens - Done
79th Predators
81st Screaming Weasels
83rd White Pumas
85th Guiding Stars
87th Space Cowboys
91st Evil Eyes - Done
92nd Lonestars - Done
92nd (Vasudan Squadron) - Done
99th Skulls - Done
101st Aces
103rd Flaming Skulls - Done
105th Gunslingers - Done
107th Ravens - Done
108th Wraiths - Done
109th Black Panthers - Done
110th Stalking Moons
116th Golden Eagles - Done
125th (Vasudan Squadron) - Done
134th Barracudas – Done
161st (Vasudan Squadron) - Done
180th Man Bombers - Done
185th (NTF squadron) - Done
203rd (Vasudan Squadron) - Done
204th Rattlers - Done
212th Silver Scythes - Done
223rd Wing Raptors
242nd Suicide Kings - Done
228th (Vasudan Squadron)
301st Tsunamis
309th (Helps protect the Vega Node)
332nd Black Mantas - Done - new version is wip
636th Wolfpack - Done
666th Devil’s Disciples

so if u have any idea to put forward either post them here or prefrably e-mail ([email protected])  me.
Title: Known Squads in FS2
Post by: Su-tehp on September 17, 2002, 09:10:39 am
Don't forget, 17th Hellcats is also done. And the Mad Bombers got misspelled again. :p:D

61st Bulldogs, 91st Evil Eyes and 204th Rattlers are all done? I can't wait to see them! :D

161st (Vasudan Squadron) was done by CP I think, but we can make another version if we need to. And 203rd (Vasudan Squadron) and 53rd Hammerheads are FS2 original squads, so they're done as well (by :v:, no less).

As for 2nd Shattered Stars, did you make a new logo, Sheepy, or are we going with SSC's original logo? I was kinda hoping for an original logo of a star going supernova, but SSC might be insulted if we don't use their original logo...

Decisions, decisions...:wtf: :confused: :nervous:
Title: Known Squads in FS2
Post by: Sheepy on September 17, 2002, 09:18:12 am
Cheers for the reminder, time to get some more pumped out ... ill send u that latest set, then u can tell me if u want ny re-doing/modifying, ok?

For SSC, i have kept the origonal, i think its a pretty cool myself :D
Title: Known Squads in FS2
Post by: Su-tehp on September 17, 2002, 09:28:51 am
Quote
Originally posted by Sheepy
Cheers for the reminder, time to get some more pumped out ... ill send u that latest set, then u can tell me if u want ny re-doing/modifying, ok?


Will do, Sheepy. You're doing a great job. :nod:
Title: Known Squads in FS2
Post by: Sheepy on September 17, 2002, 09:38:02 am
Ok sent u the mail, should be with u some time soonish
Title: Known Squads in FS2
Post by: BlackDove on September 17, 2002, 11:16:42 am
Hmm...I don't recall seeing any of our sqaud pictures with a supernova...anyway if you wanna use a super nova star for the image it might suit the squad name better to be one of SSC's Squads, "Burning Stars".
Title: Known Squads in FS2
Post by: Sheepy on September 18, 2002, 01:05:25 pm
dovie i have left it as the origonal it saves me alot of hassel :)
Title: Known Squads in FS2
Post by: Su-tehp on September 18, 2002, 03:29:32 pm
Ok, Sheepy, I've looked over the latest logos and thy look really good. There are some changes I want o make; I'll e-mail you about that later today.

Really, great stuff, Sheepy, these logos look awesome. I'll talk to Lone about posting these on the DatDB website soon. :)
Title: Known Squads in FS2
Post by: Sheepy on September 18, 2002, 03:56:42 pm
cheers dude, i havent done much more, cause i havent been home and preping for college and so on, its been a lil hectic, anyway when i get some spare time ill get back down to business.