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Title: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: vyper on September 19, 2002, 01:27:01 pm
Just read on teletext that two british (scottish no less) teenagers were among those injured in the Tel Aviv suicide bomb. Now will Blair protest to the palestinians? Will he protect British subjects? Probably not.  :mad: And I'm pretty pissed off about it since my patriotism has been in overdrive recently. :blah:
Title: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: kode on September 19, 2002, 01:35:58 pm
oh yeah... that patriotism "my countrymen is worth ten of your's" crap again... can't stand it. never could.
Title: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: Tiara on September 19, 2002, 01:44:18 pm
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Originally posted by kode
oh yeah... that patriotism "my countrymen is worth ten of your's" crap again... can't stand it. never could.

:nod:

I'd rather have 1 Dutch person die then 10 foreign people.

Even better if nobody dies though :)
Title: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: CP5670 on September 19, 2002, 01:45:42 pm
Actually for the individuals it is quite meaningless, but for the governments it makes perfect sense. :D
Title: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: Carl on September 19, 2002, 01:52:11 pm
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Originally posted by kode
oh yeah... that patriotism "my countrymen is worth ten of your's" crap again... can't stand it. never could.



no, that's not it at all. his countrymen weren't involved in the war. wouldn't you be more angry if you got shot because of some elses dispute than if you got shot because of your own?
Title: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: Tiara on September 19, 2002, 02:31:20 pm
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Originally posted by Carl



no, that's not it at all. his countrymen weren't involved in the war. wouldn't you be more angry if you got shot because of some elses dispute than if you got shot because of your own?


It makes things a bit worse... But its still better to have 1 death then 10. And most deaths by those bombings are innocent ppl as well.
Title: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: kode on September 19, 2002, 02:35:44 pm
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Originally posted by Carl



no, that's not it at all. his countrymen weren't involved in the war. wouldn't you be more angry if you got shot because of some elses dispute than if you got shot because of your own?


well... if I got shot and survived, I'd propably be pissed either way. If I got shot and died, I couldn't be angry cause I'm dead.

And britain is involved in this conflict. hadn't it been for their giving the land to form the state of Israel, there'd been no conflict today.
Title: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: vyper on September 19, 2002, 02:36:04 pm
I don't think this could get any more surreal (unless an0n posts that monkey picture again).

I was just saying that it pisses me off that Brits can get injured, arrested and all sorts abroad and our Gov. does nothing. Thats all. Carl hit the nail on the head. :nod:
Title: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: kode on September 19, 2002, 02:38:21 pm
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Originally posted by vyper
I don't think this could get any more surreal (unless an0n posts that monkey picture again).

I was just saying that it pisses me off that Brits can get injured, arrested and all sorts abroad and our Gov. does nothing. Thats all. Carl hit the nail on the head. :nod:


and what I'm saying is that it doesn't make things worse. They are still the way they are and there should not be any extra reason to react just because someone of the same nationality as yourselves suffers for it. what the world needs to do is start caring about each other and not see to their own no matter what.
Title: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: Nico on September 19, 2002, 02:39:52 pm
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Originally posted by Carl



no, that's not it at all. his countrymen weren't involved in the war. wouldn't you be more angry if you got shot because of some elses dispute than if you got shot because of your own?


well, you can't expect to go there and be totaly safe. they knew they might have pbs.
Title: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: vyper on September 19, 2002, 02:45:39 pm
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Originally posted by kode


and what I'm saying is that it doesn't make things worse. They are still the way they are and there should not be any extra reason to react just because someone of the same nationality as yourselves suffers for it. what the world needs to do is start caring about each other and not see to their own no matter what.


Yes and when that happens I'll swing from the rooftops in joy, no really I will. But you and I both know its a long way off and right now we must all look after our own citizens.
Title: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: kode on September 19, 2002, 02:47:44 pm
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Originally posted by vyper


Yes and when that happens I'll swing from the rooftops in joy, no really I will. But you and I both know its a long way off and right now we must all look after our own citizens.


well... swedes has been injured in israel, lot's of swedes in thailand prisons, america prisons, some kidnapped by guerillas, joined the guerillas, gotten killed by guerillas, and so on and so on. so ****ing what?
Title: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: vyper on September 19, 2002, 03:00:32 pm
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Originally posted by kode


well... swedes has been injured in israel, lot's of swedes in thailand prisons, america prisons, some kidnapped by guerillas, joined the guerillas, gotten killed by guerillas, and so on and so on. so ****ing what?


I'm sorry to say this so harshly but: Sweden isn't the UK.  We've had and still do have, a great deal of power in world affairs - that should at least give us some protection.

I make it my ambition that my generation will build a Britain as powerful as our predecessors saw, only with more consideration for real people (unlike much of the empire days). We will be the next hyperpower equal to America and able to protect our people.

Call me a dreamer, call me a nationalist, call me what you will but I will not stand to see my countrymen in danger anywhere in the world.

Here endeth the rant.:blah:
Title: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: kode on September 19, 2002, 03:07:19 pm
well... if you actually believe what you say, I'll be leaving now.
Title: Re: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: Dr.Zer0 on September 19, 2002, 03:08:31 pm
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Originally posted by vyper
suicide bomb.



and who exactly is bombing them selvs... maybe its me but I think its those people who are causing all the problems :doubt:
Title: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: vyper on September 19, 2002, 03:16:19 pm
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Originally posted by kode
well... if you actually believe what you say, I'll be leaving now.


You realise Sweden just got put on the "bad" list? :p

And yes, I pretty much believe a lot of wot I said.
Title: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: kode on September 19, 2002, 03:19:21 pm
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Originally posted by vyper


You realise Sweden just got put on the "bad" list? :p

And yes, I pretty much believe a lot of wot I said.


There's a lot of other things I could call you then, but instead of getting my ass banT, I'd rather drop this discussion now.
Title: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: CP5670 on September 19, 2002, 03:20:27 pm
There was always a day for every country when it was in power, but times change. :p
Title: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: vyper on September 19, 2002, 03:23:29 pm
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Originally posted by CP5670
There was always a day for every country when it was in power, but times change. :p


:thepimp:
Title: Actually
Post by: Star Dragon on September 19, 2002, 03:33:24 pm
What goes around comes around. I think that Austrailia is secretly trying to take over the world with diarming smiles, beautiful beaches/women, and that darn charming accent...

   But I'm not paranoid or anything... :nervous:

Mel Gibson is a Austrailian Secret Agent (Shhh!)

00WhatTheF***DidIJustPush? Crikie! :lol:
Title: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: Zeronet on September 19, 2002, 04:35:57 pm
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Originally posted by CP5670
There was always a day for every country when it was in power, but times change. :p


That may be true, but name the largest empire that ever existed.
Title: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: Fineus on September 19, 2002, 04:42:38 pm
Jeepers, can't you people have one week where everyone is nice to eachother and there's no discussion of who's country is superior etc...? It's bordering on racism in some ways! Can't you just leave it at the agreement that all deaths are bad? I think we're more or less in mutual agreement there.
Title: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: Zeronet on September 19, 2002, 04:53:27 pm
I guess now wouldnt be a good time for a nice singing of "Rule Britiannia" eh?   :nervous:
Title: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: Crazy_Ivan80 on September 19, 2002, 04:54:56 pm
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Originally posted by kode



And britain is involved in this conflict. hadn't it been for their giving the land to form the state of Israel, there'd been no conflict today.


well, you could say with equal, if not more, validity that if the arabs hadn't declared war on the new israeli state the moment it was born but had accepted the 1947 partition instead there would be no conflict.

But I guess exterminating the 'zionists' and the 'blood drinking jews' takes precedence over peace. :rolleyes:
Title: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: vyper on September 19, 2002, 05:03:39 pm
Why is everyone so upset that I'm feeling just a little national pride and helluva lot of will to change the world?
Title: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: Carl on September 19, 2002, 05:23:36 pm
D is for Deutschland! Deuschland victory!

C is for candlestick, I hit you in the knee!

F is for frenchman, I through him in the sea!
Title: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: vyper on September 19, 2002, 05:26:15 pm
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Originally posted by Carl
D is for Deutschland! Deuschland victory!

C is for candlestick, I hit you in the knee!

F is for frenchman, I through him in the sea!


:wtf: :lol: :wtf:
Title: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: phreak on September 19, 2002, 05:54:32 pm
wrong spelling of 'threw' but its still pretty funny


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Why is everyone so upset that I'm feeling just a little national pride and helluva lot of will to change the world?



im not.  even though my government book is 10 years old, british people rank #2 of western nations in patriotism (~80% american, 55% british)
Title: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: Grey Wolf on September 19, 2002, 06:27:16 pm
Well, to make you happy Thunder, I'm not going to brag about my country. An idiot who I just learned is related to William the Conquerer and Princess Diana rules it. He is a moron who does not understand the First Article of the Constitution.

:Moves to Ireland:
Title: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: Tiara on September 20, 2002, 12:20:19 am
*goes back in time to the golden age of Holland where it kicked UK a$$ with friggin small boats*





j/k :nervous:
Title: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: CP5670 on September 20, 2002, 02:14:25 am
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That may be true, but name the largest empire that ever existed.


Rome probably. :p :D Either that or macedonia.

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Can't you just leave it at the agreement that all deaths are bad? I think we're more or less in mutual agreement there.


hey I'm not; moralism is just as bad as nationalism for me. :p
Title: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: Nico on September 20, 2002, 03:19:53 am
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Originally posted by CP5670
hey I'm not; moralism is just as bad as nationalism for me. :p


you're a retard. I hope one day something bad will happen to you, then we'll see how you react. I found your behaviour funny at first, now I believe you're sick, or you're acting this way just to chock people.
Title: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: kode on September 20, 2002, 03:24:39 am
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Originally posted by Crazy_Ivan80


well, you could say with equal, if not more, validity that if the arabs hadn't declared war on the new israeli state the moment it was born but had accepted the 1947 partition instead there would be no conflict.

But I guess exterminating the 'zionists' and the 'blood drinking jews' takes precedence over peace. :rolleyes:


uh yeah sure. I'm the nazi.
Title: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: vyper on September 20, 2002, 05:50:59 am
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Originally posted by kode


uh yeah sure. I'm the nazi.


:lol: No you're just a liberal. Almost as bad.
Title: Re: Actually
Post by: Sandwich on September 20, 2002, 08:36:17 am
Back on-topic, one of the Scots died just a few hours ago (http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/A/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1032275811484). :(

And to reply to all of you arguing about who, what and why, go here (http://www.infoclick.org).

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Originally posted by Star Dragon
I think that Austrailia is secretly trying to take over the world with ... that darn charming accent...


I have to agree with ya there. :D
Title: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: CP5670 on September 20, 2002, 08:52:42 am
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you're a retard. I hope one day something bad will happen to you, then we'll see how you react. I found your behaviour funny at first, now I believe you're sick, or you're acting this way just to chock people.


Your hopes are not going to increase the probability of such a thing happening, so I couldn't care less what you hope. (also, my reaction, or anything to do with my person, would be quite irrelevant; it's the idea that counts)

Also, bin Laden probably thinks of all of us as "sick," whatever that means. :D
Title: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: Tiara on September 20, 2002, 09:23:23 am
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Originally posted by CP5670

Also, bin Laden probably thinks of all of us as "sick," whatever that means. :D


"Sick" means (in this context) "You don't agree with me so your worth nothing".
Title: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: Nico on September 20, 2002, 09:53:40 am
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Originally posted by Tiara


"Sick" means (in this context) "You don't agree with me so your worth nothing".



meh, you make me sound like a dumbass :p
CP, you completly missed the point ( but not the opportunity to sound smart, hey? ). oh well I don't give a damn anyway.
"searches some kind of "mute" button, can't find any"
Title: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: CP5670 on September 20, 2002, 10:08:18 am
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meh, you make me sound like a dumbass :p


Well, I wouldn't really expect otherwise seeing your second last post. :p

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CP, you completly missed the point ( but not the opportunity to sound smart, hey? ). oh well I don't give a damn anyway.
"searches some kind of "mute" button, can't find any"


uh...you missed my point as well! h4w! :D

There should be an ignore thing in your profile btw. :D

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"Sick" means (in this context) "You don't agree with me so your worth nothing".


That's what I thought too... :blah:
Title: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: Nico on September 20, 2002, 10:13:12 am
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Originally posted by CP5670


Well, I wouldn't really expect otherwise seeing your second last post. :p



I was replying to Tiara, not you, so keep your comments for yourself.
Title: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: CP5670 on September 20, 2002, 10:14:19 am
In other words, you concede that your original comments were uncalled for. :p
Title: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: Tiara on September 20, 2002, 10:28:43 am
Simply : :wtf:
Title: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: Nico on September 20, 2002, 10:35:37 am
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Originally posted by CP5670
In other words, you concede that your original comments were uncalled for. :p


yeah, whatever. sorry if i believe in things that don't match your theorical views of the world :rolleyes:
Title: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: CP5670 on September 20, 2002, 10:42:12 am
It is perfectly fine for you to believe whatever you wish; what is not so good is when you start throwing petty insults at people for having different opinions.
Title: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: Zeronet on September 20, 2002, 10:51:03 am
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Originally posted by CP5670


Rome probably. :p :D Either that or macedonia.


Wrong, The British Empire was the largest Empire ever.(Although im NOT condoning the things that were done in the era of colonism.)
Title: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: CP5670 on September 20, 2002, 10:52:30 am
nah, there were certainly much larger empires thousands of years ago in terms of controlled land anyway; the British one was merely the most recent large one. ;)
Title: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: Zeronet on September 20, 2002, 10:59:01 am
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Originally posted by CP5670
nah, there were certainly much larger empires thousands of years ago in terms of controlled land anyway; the British one was merely the most recent large one. ;)


Nope. My Encyclopaedia of Historial Facts state the British Empire was the largest empire in terms of land and population.
Title: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: an0n on September 20, 2002, 11:03:54 am
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Originally posted by CP5670
nah, there were certainly much larger empires thousands of years ago in terms of controlled land anyway; the British one was merely the most recent large one. ;)
Actually the only empire larger to my knowledge (not including barbarian alliance, I mean things which lasted 100 years+) was the Roman Empire.
Title: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: Nico on September 20, 2002, 11:07:50 am
I think the english empire was indeed the largest one, they "owned" a large part of america, india, australia, and countless islands. The roamn empire was resticted around the mediterranean sea, which is not that big.
Title: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: Stealth on September 20, 2002, 11:07:52 am
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Originally posted by Zeronet


Wrong, The British Empire was the largest Empire ever.(Although im NOT condoning the things that were done in the era of colonism.)


oooh, 0wnj00
Title: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: an0n on September 20, 2002, 11:12:24 am
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Originally posted by venom2506
I think the english empire was indeed the largest one, they "owned" a large part of america, india, australia, and countless islands. The roamn empire was resticted around the mediterranean sea, which is not that big.

At it's peak it stretch from like Britain to India. But I think by that time it'd split into East and West and wasn't really a single empire.
Title: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: Zeronet on September 20, 2002, 11:13:05 am
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Originally posted by an0n
Actually the only empire larger to my knowledge (not including barbarian alliance, I mean things which lasted 100 years+) was the Roman Empire.


I think Austraila and New Zealand might actually be larger than the Roman Empire in terms of land.
Title: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: an0n on September 20, 2002, 11:14:31 am
Oooh, and let's not forget about all the African nations.
Title: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: kode on September 20, 2002, 11:18:16 am
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Democratic elections and an end to anti-Israel and anti-American incitement are prerequisites for peace, he said


yes, that's what it all comes down too. the anti-american opinions must be thwarted, and teh anti-christ (anti-someone else in this matter perhaps) muslims are teh evil, and must be ridden!

go figure.
Title: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: Stealth on September 20, 2002, 11:19:20 am
KODE!!! AWESOME!!!
long time no see, whats' up man!?
Title: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: kode on September 20, 2002, 11:20:50 am
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Originally posted by Stealth
KODE!!! AWESOME!!!
long time no see, whats' up man!?


real life, warpstorm, a constand mist before my eyes...
Title: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: vyper on September 20, 2002, 11:29:58 am
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Originally posted by venom2506
I think the english empire was indeed the largest one, they "owned" a large part of america, india, australia, and countless islands. The roamn empire was resticted around the mediterranean sea, which is not that big.


English empire? :wtf:
Can you say: BRITISH? (seeing as I live in the second city of the empire :wink: )
Title: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: Tiara on September 20, 2002, 11:52:00 am
Holland owned the most Islands! Dutch India (Like thousands of islands)

And ofcourse... New Amsterdam :p
Title: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: Nico on September 20, 2002, 11:57:04 am
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Originally posted by vyper


English empire? :wtf:
Can you say: BRITISH? (seeing as I live in the second city of the empire :wink: )


sorry.
Title: Scots students injured in Israel
Post by: Carl on September 20, 2002, 04:13:28 pm
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Originally posted by PhReAk
wrong spelling of 'threw' but its still pretty funny


i wasn't trying to spell threw. it's present tense.