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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: JC Denton on September 24, 2002, 09:54:22 pm
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Originally written by Paul Sperry for WorldNetDaily:
2002 WorldNetDaily.com WASHINGTON – After America was attacked 61 years ago, we started turning vacuum-cleaner factories into machine-gun factories in a matter of weeks. We created an intelligence-gathering service that stole enemy plans within months. People sacrificed their jobs, careers. Families were pried apart. All for their country. That was then. Now it's a big deal to stick a flag on your SUV. Now the CIA is so fat, it's more interested in protecting its turf – and its rear – than protecting its countrymen. We're better today at holding ceremonies memorializing victims than holding villains accountable. Witness Wednesday's over-televised sobfest. It was a redux of the goofy candlelight telethon held right after we were attacked, when we were filled with justifiable rage. We are in a suspended state of Hollywood therapy. If Bruce Springsteen would just sing us a few more ditties, if Susan Sarandon would just whisper a few more nothings in our ear, everything will be all right. No wonder we're on high threat alert 12 months later. We're still mourning, healing, forgiving, blubbering, rationalizing. Meanwhile, the enemy is still recruiting, enlisting, planning, casing, hating. Nothing has really changed. Osama bin Laden is still on the loose. The anthrax mailer is still at large. Airports still don't profile young Arab men. The State Department still issues visas to young Arab men, who still come and train at our flight schools. The Americans of 60 years ago took care of business. They didn't talk about it, they did it. And they didn't stop until the enemy was completely smashed. They didn't just chase him away. And they sure as heck didn't take any chances at home. More than 1.1 million citizens of Germany, Italy and Japan were classified as enemy aliens. So what's changed us? (Hint: Justin and Kelly.) That's right, television. We're now a nation of couch-potato warriors. Yes, we're more connected and more instantly (notice I didn't say better) informed because of television. But we think everyone else is taking care of business. We see all the talking heads on all the news shows talking to the endless parade of limousine-driven, blow-dried politicians, and we think all our problems are being solved. But it's just talk, folks. It goes right up into the ether. Nothing is actually getting done here – at least not the right things. We're so connected, we're disconnected – now more than ever – from our government, which we're supposed to control. Washington has been Hollywoodized. It's all show now. We have a tough-talking president who squints like Clint Eastwood. We have a tough-looking Homeland Security czar (who even has a tough-sounding last name). We have a meaningless color-coded alert system. We have new airport checkpoint screeners wearing spiffy federal uniforms as they strip-search paraplegics. We have National Guardsmen brandishing unloaded M-16s. All eyewash. You are not more secure. The celebrities in Washington, New York and Hollywood aren't protecting you, as much as we'd all like to think they are. So, it's time to turn off the TV sets, and get off the couch and demand change. March on the White House and demand the commander in chief invade Peshawar and stop diddling in Afghanistan and jabbering over Iraq. Pakistan is where the terrorists are. Demand he stay focused on bin Laden, who's hiding out there. And don't e-mail, march! E-mail doesn't get on television, which politicians watch as much as you do. March! March on Congress and demand they stop the State Department from importing terrorists from the Mideast. Demand they force Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta to profile young Arab men at airports. Demand they get him to arm pilots. Demand they get him to cancel contracts for error-prone CTX machines – those huge "weapons of mass disruption" at airports, as one whistleblower agent put it – and reinvest those billions of tax dollars in deploying more chemical-detection systems and bomb-sniffing dogs, reinforcing cockpit doors and walls with steel and Kevlar, and guarding jetliners and ramps overnight. Stop sleepwalking through this war. Don't let television anesthetize you. Turn it off! Rally! March! You have the power as voters to force these bloviators in Washington to do the right and effective things to protect you and your family from another Islamic attack. But who am I fooling. We won't get up from our couches, will we? We won't demand anything. Look, Sting is at Ground Zero! Gotta go.
Opinions, anyone?
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I assume the idea is for the US to get off it's lazy ass and do something? In that case no luck for us - our mofo president bush has decided to put pressures on Iraq instead of focusing on internal problems or even the real threat - Mr Laden.
Someone better assasinate bush real soon...
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I agree with quite a few of his points there, particularly those where he says that the American society has become way too soft and is just spending their time crying for the dead instead of quickly getting revenge. That is completely correct.
I also agree that a lot more attention needs to be directed towards Pakistan, since that has sort of become the terrorist haven since the fall of Afghanistan, but it is possible to focus on both Pakistan and Iraq simultaneously since neither one poses much of a conventional threat. (going after Iraq is all good, but get the others as well)
The government is doing well so far, but they need to do a lot more of it.
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Bush=best president we've had in a while. if he got asassinated, we'd be doomed.
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...DOOMED!!!!
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I think Bush sucks, but he's not doing anything anyway, so it does not matter who actually has the presidential chair. (he is responsible for neither the good things nor the bad things that his administration has done, since he is just a puppet of more intelligent people that actually call the shots)
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*gives CP an elementary school book on American Government*
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Originally posted by Carl
Bush=best president we've had in a while. if he got asassinated, we'd be doomed.
I'm sure some people will be quite happy then ;) (not that I agree)
Then we can all move to Eishtmo's island :p
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*gives Carl information on Bush's intelligence* :D
He is doing a lot of smart things which he could not be completely responsible for seeing how silly he is (that his world outlook is too simple is obvious from his speeches), and such a fool can easily be persuaded to do what others want him to do, so I think that his cabinet members are the real guys in power; Bush just carries out the orders. :D
Still, as I said, Bush is a good president simply because he is letting smarter people do the actual thinking, and thus the nation is progressing well.
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Originally posted by CP5670
*gives Carl information on Bush's intelligence* :D
He is doing a lot of smart things which he could not be completely responsible for seeing how silly he is, and such a fool can easily be persuaded to do what others want him to do, so I think that his cabinet members are the real guys in power; Bush just carries out the orders. :D
if we're going to have a figurehead... we need a REAL figurehead! :p
We need like a skimpy dressing shakira-like girl as president! Or maybe a clown... or better DAVE BARRY!!! :D
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or how about a mathematician? ;7
That Dave Barry guy really writes hilarious stuff in newspapers... :D
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Originally posted by Kamikaze
Someone better assasinate bush real soon...
I second that opinion. And if given the oportunity, i would take the shot.
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I wonder what Al Gore would have done about 9/11.
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Originally posted by neo_hermes
I wonder what Al Gore would have done about 9/11.
9/11 wouldn't have happened. Gore would have sent his black ops men in and assassinated Bin Laden's ass real quick and nobody whould be the wiser. BUT NOOOOO....Bush Sr. wants his family to rule the world and had to rig the election in florida to get his son into office.
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heh, if gore was president, he would have apalogized to bin laden and asked if he could help buy blowing up any other buildings.
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Originally posted by demon442
I second that opinion. And if given the oportunity, i would take the shot.
if you are serious about that, then you've got to have been brainwashed by the media/liberals, and have not even looked at what the president has been doing with a mind more closed than a black hole.
BTW, actual death threats are not permitted on this board.
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Originally posted by Carl
if you are serious about that, then you've got to have been brainwashed by the media/liberals, and have not even looked at what the president has been doing with a mind more closed than a black hole.
BTW, actual death threats are not permitted on this board.
Well that wasn't exactly a threat, more of a sugestion to the more violent of people in the world ;)
I'll be more careful 'bout that though
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Originally posted by Kamikaze
Someone better assasinate bush real soon...
:wtf:
I hope you're kidding. Even so, it's not exactly a laughing matter.
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Originally posted by Shrike
:wtf:
I hope you're kidding. Even so, it's not exactly a laughing matter.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
sorry I just happen to be "one of those people..."
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Not assassinated, removed from power. Or at least forced to make use of several more capable (in their field) advisors so that he doesn't spend all his time planning wars etc.. and can spend time thinking up good ideas elsewhere.
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First of all, gotta love WND - Joseph Farah's daily column is veeery good. :)
ABout the article, I agree. Everything now is televized, including the "war" in Afgn. For Pete's sake, I've been on some training excersices that reporters shouldn't see - and they didn't. But anyway, if you want Saddam taken care of, just let him toss off a scud our direction and don't respond - I can assure you, we will.
And America's #1 problem right now isn't Osama, isn't Saddam - it's the most holy shrine of World Opinion. :rolleyes: Bush spent how long looking for other nations to back the US in their strike on Osama? And who joined in in the end? And hey, do any of you remember when he was trying to get Syria in on the anti-terrorisim binge?!?! I mean, what the heck?
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Originally posted by Thunder
Not assassinated, removed from power.
What, CIA style? As in "not paying to hire/train a hitman/men" to "not effect a change of regime" and "not install an American puppet dictator who may well end up turning on his masters"? That kind of removed from power? Or am I just takign the piss? Either seems quite likely.
BTW, I'm wondering what you Merry Cans know about/think about our boy Blair. It seems that when he published his 'why we should bomb Iraq' dossier, Bush praised him like he was giving a biscuit to a dog who'd done a particularly inventive trick. Thoughts?
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Personally, I agree...
*Gets under table with a shotgun*
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Originally posted by Carl
Bush=best president we've had in a while. if he got asassinated, we'd be doomed.
Meh. More likely the worst
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All your country is interested in is spreading its dysfunctional ideals further.
Thats why everyone in the middle east has essentially been labelled "Terrorists" - because their way of life is different and the US doesnt like non conformists one little bit.
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And kids, here we go again. Don't try to do this at home.
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Originally posted by Styxx
And kids, here we go again. Don't try to do this at home.
:lol: problem being I do :p
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And America's #1 problem right now isn't Osama, isn't Saddam - it's the most holy shrine of World Opinion. Bush spent how long looking for other nations to back the US in their strike on Osama? And who joined in in the end? And hey, do any of you remember when he was trying to get Syria in on the anti-terrorisim binge?!?! I mean, what the heck?
I completely agree here, which is why I think that any nation should just throw world opinion to the dogs and do what they want. The others will sit and whine but they won't pose any further threat. (come to think of it, Israel is having this problem too, right?)
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Originally posted by CP5670
(come to think of it, Israel is having this problem too, right?)
Yes, somewhat. The US has been relatively well-behaved about things we do against terrorisim's roots here, but the EU has been having one big long conniption, but I say screw them. Ever since we started moving into the Palestinian cities, striking at the explosives labs and weapon storage warehouses and then pulling out again, we've proved to those who are willing to actually see that we have no interest in re-occupying the PA areas - just rooting out terrorisim. And it's been working, as much as it can. :doubt:
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there's not enough room on this planet :(
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Originally posted by wEvil
there's not enough room on this planet :(
Lets make room then!
* pats bioweapons arsenal *
:D
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Once we cure alzheimers, i want reagan back.
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Originally posted by PhReAk
Once we cure alzheimers, i want reagan back.
:wtf:
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but the EU has been having one big long conniption, but I say screw them
w00t! I like this idea. If the UK did it we might get our hands untied for the first time in about 20 years. :nod:
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there's plenty of room on the planet, everyone's just clumped together. we just need to spread out.
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bah, let's kill them all anyway. :D
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Originally posted by CP5670
bah, let's kill them all anyway. :D
Wots the equation for mass genocide? :p
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uh...e=mc² :D
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Originally posted by CP5670
uh...e=mc² :D
Damn he managed to answer it! :rolleyes: