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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: White Tiger on October 01, 2002, 02:02:01 am
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http://www.apple.com/trailers/newline/the_two_towers/lotr_tt_tlr_fs_interim.html
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Bin on my computer since May, and the file's older than that :p
Rather tasty though, eh?
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Originally posted by diamondgeezer
Bin on my computer since May, and the file's older than that :p
Rather tasty though, eh?
Eh how has it been on your comp since May when it's only been released last week? This is the new theatrical trailer, not the teaser trailer. :rolleyes:
Unless... you work for Peter Jackson, stole all the footage and compiled it yourself? :confused:
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;7
Meh, if had me webspace up and running I'd link to it... :sigh:
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hey, we get to (almost) see an ent :)
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mass.... scenes....
looks like it's gonna live up to the book. w00t!!!
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the trailer's been out since Men in black 2 first came out... it does look good though... start reading the book, cause otherwise it won't be as good
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Originally posted by Stealth
the trailer's been out since Men in black 2 first came out... it does look good though... start reading the book, cause otherwise it won't be as good
Read the book AFTER the films cause quite simply the film won't compare. I was dissapointed in the amount of cuts in the fellowship when I first saw it, but then kinda realised that it's such a hugely descriptive book that there was no way the film was gonna compare to my imagination.
However, the locations were spot on in the way they looked to how i imagined them.
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Ahahahaha........ahahahaha.............ahahahahahahaha........ ...........................ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.... ..........ahahahaha
*dies of laughter poisoning*
*thought this was going to be something to do with Spiderman*
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Originally posted by an0n
I.....don't.....CARE!!!!!
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:wtf: and/or :nervous:
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Originally posted by 01010
Read the book AFTER the films cause quite simply the film won't compare. I was dissapointed in the amount of cuts in the fellowship when I first saw it, but then kinda realised that it's such a hugely descriptive book that there was no way the film was gonna compare to my imagination.
However, the locations were spot on in the way they looked to how i imagined them.
actually i read the book in 6th grade sometime, and then a few months before the movie came out, then i saw the movie, (now i could compare the book to the movie) then i read the book again, because now i could think of the part of the book and imagine the scene of the movie where that hapened... much easier to visualize.
*shrugs* i dunno, do it however you want :D
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Originally posted by Stealth
the trailer's been out since Men in black 2 first came out... it does look good though... start reading the book, cause otherwise it won't be as good
no, this hasn't. theonering.net is just NOW doing a frame-by-frame. if this one had been out earlier, then that would have been done sooner.
not only that, but I've watched every trailer so far. I even have a countdown in my sig.
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Looks damn sweet, glad Gandalf returns for the ass kicking in true form. Although he now appears to be white, no doubt that will be explained. And no I haven't read all three books - I don't like the writing style, but the general storyline kicks ass. Thus the films == teh win.
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Originally posted by Thunder
Looks damn sweet, glad Gandalf returns for the ass kicking in true form. Although he now appears to be white, no doubt that will be explained. And no I haven't read all three books - I don't like the writing style, but the general storyline kicks ass. Thus the films == teh win.
he was called "gandalf the grey" but now when he returns he's all white, and called "Gandalf the white" instead... something to do with how he fought the belrog and became purer or something like that... i don't know the story that well though of the second book.
And heretic: i didn't know they had a new trailer out. i saw the old one (teaser?) in men in black, but i never knew there was a new one :yes:
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Originally posted by Stealth
he was called "gandalf the grey" but now when he returns he's all white, and called "Gandalf the white" instead... something to do with how he fought the belrog and became purer or something like that... i don't know the story that well though of the second book.
Whilst that makes sense and all, Salron(sp?) is white in the first film and continues to stay white in the trailer for the second film. I'd say striving to detroy the world of men would've skipped most of the spectrum and put him straight to black!
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Originally posted by Thunder
Whilst that makes sense and all, Salron(sp?) is white in the first film and continues to stay white in the trailer for the second film. I'd say striving to detroy the world of men would've skipped most of the spectrum and put him straight to black!
:lol:
i dunno why he turns white, i was just guessing... i guess i'll have to read the book again! :D
i just know he said in the books that when him and the belrog fell to the bottom of the pit there was water, and it put all the belrog's fire out, and Gandalf had to fight him, but it was hard because he was all slimy. and eventually he escaped :lol:
hehehe
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Originally posted by Thunder
Whilst that makes sense and all, Salron(sp?) is white in the first film and continues to stay white in the trailer for the second film. I'd say striving to detroy the world of men would've skipped most of the spectrum and put him straight to black!
ok, here this goes:
There is a hierarchy to wizards, in Return of the King, you'll encounter another one, a brown wizard.
The "white" is the highest level of wizard, saruman was this.
gandalf was a grey wizard. After his fight with the balrog, and the treason if Isenguard, Saruman lost the white status, and his robe becomes somewhat... nasty looking, while Gandalf becomes the white, and hence the most powerful of the wizards.
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Gandalf is an Istari, which means, he is basically immortal. There are 5 Istari in total , the leader of them originally being Saruman the White (Thunder, your sp was awful), grandmaster Lee in the movie. Note that nor Gandalf nor Saruman were humans, they were Maia, an age-old race from another realm whose spirit was immortal.However, Saruman became corrupt, betraying the order. Gandalf did die,so to speak, when battling Balrog, but his spirit (his earthly body was destroyed) was sent back to finish his job (destroying Sauron) in the form of Gandalf the White, the wisest of the 6 Istari, the man who Saruman should have been.
Another interesting thing. Sauron was in the first age, only a servant (so was, btw Balrog) of Morgoth, the Archenemy (might be a name error here, I'm don't have Return of the King here, so I can't check the translation) who lived far up in the north. Maia were among those who battled him. The full story is told in the Silmarillion.
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Originally posted by heretic
gandalf was a grey wizard. After his fight with the balrog, and the treason if Isenguard, Saruman lost the white status, and his robe becomes somewhat... nasty looking, while Gandalf becomes the white, and hence the most powerful of the wizards.
that was actually Saruman's own choice now wasn't it.
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A Fellow Scholar!....EXCELLENT!
BTW you mean 5 INCLUDING Gandalf.
Saruman
Gandalf
Radagast
and two others that went east for another (untold) purpose
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ah sorry, numeral error. (could make a geeky LOTR joke here, but will skip).
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Originally posted by Stunaep
they were Maia
Actually, they were Maiar.
Originally posted by Stunaep
(so was, btw Balrog)
What?! You're saying Sauron was a Balrog? Read the book again.
Originally posted by White Tiger
and two others that went east for another (untold) purpose
They were Alatar and Pallando, the Blue Istari, chosen by the Vala Oromë. Their names do not appear in the books because as soon as they got to Middle Earth they went to the far east, to work just like Radagast and Gandalf (helping the people in the battle against Sauron).
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Also, Morinehtar and Romestamo were their alternative names. It's said that they arrived a long time before the other three Istari.
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Tolkien never said istaris were maiar, that's just people's wild guess, coz they always want to find liks with stuff and others. From what I know, Istaris are Istaris, and nobody knows where they come from.
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Originally posted by Levyathan
Read the book again.
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I've read them all countless times, silmarillion inculded, and it's stated nobody knows where they come from. Maybe it's an error of translation tho, so i'd be glad if you quote the part where it's said istaris are mayars.
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As soon as Styxx brings back my copy of The Silmarillion I will. This is just an indirect reminder for him to do it.
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Read Unfinished Tales, there's a short but sweet little essay on the Istari (and another on the Palantir). It states quite plainly thatthe Istari were of the angelic order, the Maiar, but since that was never finsihed and published by Tolkien himself (it was actually one of the last Middle-earth bits that he wrote) it's of questionable 'officialness'.
Oh yes, and let's not forget that the Balrogs were also of the angelic order, spirits of lesser power then the Maiar but similar all the same. Just like Sauron, they were corrupted by Morgoth and were named the Balrogs.
And just a small request, let's keep the plot revealage to a minimum, yes? Be considerate, folks. The whole Gandalf thing is a bit tricky, so let people find out for themselves :nod:
Lastly, if anybody wants to have a Tolkien trivia match, I'm right here... :cool:
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I read the unfinished tales only one, I should clean the dust away from them and read them again I guess. but there was weird things in it, that are contradictory with what tolkien said, so I couldn't take it too much for granted.
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Yes, well you know what he was like. Change one tiny detail and he'd have to rejig the whole bloody thing to fit perfectly.
Now, the Narn I Hin Hurin, that was long as fairly pointless. I mean yes, Turin did the deed an' all, but otherwise Tuor was a far more interesting character (as were his descendants ;7), but Tolkien seemed intent on making the Narn as long winded as possible... oh well, that's genius for you...
And the whole Elfwine thing, that was confusing. I've only got History of Middle-earth part five but the stuff in there about the Erriol family and the legend of Sheaf and the Lombards and stuff was hella weird...:confused:
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Originally posted by Levyathan
As soon as Styxx brings back my copy of The Silmarillion I will. This is just an indirect reminder for him to do it.
you know Styxx personally? does he spam in RL (tm) too?
j/k Styxx :D
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Originally posted by Stealth
you know Styxx personally? does he spam in RL (tm) too?
j/k Styxx :D
omfg you should be talking!!!! :o
Or was it Stryke that always triple posts on everything... bah, never can get things right...
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Originally posted by Levyathan
What?! You're saying Sauron was a Balrog? Read the book again.
I was saying Sauron was a servant of Morgoth, such as the Balrogs were servant of Morgoth.
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"a" balrog, it's not some famous character, it's a species, some kind of spirit of the fire.
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Originally posted by Stealth
you know Styxx personally?
Umm, yeah. For 16 years.
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he's his little bro if you wonder :p
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Originally posted by Levyathan
As soon as Styxx brings back my copy of The Silmarillion I will. This is just an indirect reminder for him to do it.
Meh.