Originally posted by Bobboau
"So Evolutionism (or is it Evolutionaryism? wow i sound like Bush now ) bassically states that animals adapt their bodies to suit their enviroments ... correct?
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no that is incorect, in an evolutionary system those organisms less suited to surivial and reproduction will not be represented in the next generation, there is no consus effort for improvement or adaption,
adaption is more of a byproduct of simple mater of fact things like
things that are better at living and reproduceing more do so but better that those that aren't as good, and thus there are more of them
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"So Evolutionism (or is it Evolutionaryism? wow i sound like Bush now ) bassically states that animals adapt their bodies to suit their enviroments ... correct?
"
no that is incorect, in an evolutionary system those organisms less suited to surivial and reproduction will not be represented in the next generation, there is no consus effort for improvement or adaption,
adaption is more of a byproduct of simple mater of fact things like
things that are better at living and reproduceing more do so but better that those that aren't as good, and thus there are more of them
pfft, duh. Thats exactly why we are negativly evolving. Soon instead of the superhuman, we will have a race of scrawny nerds.
Originally posted by wEvil
the universe was 5 billion years old by the time our solar system formed - while its only an estimate its a quite widely accepted fact.
SO unless you're saying the solar system is far older than we think it is (I.E, it formed during the supercooling phase of the rapid inflationary model of the universe, which it couldn't have because it was too hot for anything more complex than a few oxygen/magnesium atoms by then), it still has trouble standing up to scrutiny.
However, post up a few excerpts - i'm interested in reading them :)
The Six Days of Genesis | ||||
Day number | Start of day (years B.P.) | End of day (years B.P.) | Main event(s) of the day | |
Bible's description | Scientific description | |||
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One | 15,750,000,000 | 7,750,000,000 | The creation of the universe; light seperates from dark (Gen 1:1-5) | The big bang marks the creation of the universe; light literally breaks free as electrons bond to atomic nuclei; galaxies start to form |
Two | 7,750,000,000 | 3,750,000,000 | The heavenly firmament forms (Gen. 1:6-8) | Disk of Milky Way forms; Sun, a main sequence star, forms |
Three | 3,750,000,000 | 1,750,000,000 | Oceans and dry land appear; the first life, plants, appear (Gen. 1:9-13) | The earth has cooled and liquid water appears 3.8 billion years ago followed almost immediately by the first forms of life; bacteria and photosynthetic algae |
Four | 1,750,000,000 | 750,000,000 | Sun, Moon, and stars become visible in heavens (Gen 1:14-19) | Earth's atmosphere becomes transparent; photosynthesis produces oxygen-rich atmosphere |
Five | 750,000,000 | 250,000,000 | First animal life swarms abundantly in waters; followed by reptiles and winged animals (Gen. 1:20-23) | First multicellular animals; waters swarm with animal life having the basic body plans of all future animals; winged insects appear |
Six | 250,000,000 | approx. 6,000 | Land animals; mammals; humankind (Gen. 1:24-31) | Massive extinction destroys over 90% of life. Land is repopulated; hominids and then humans |
Originally posted by Sandwich
I was going to type some stuff out of his book, but I found that he has some good articles on his website (http://www.geraldschroeder.com/), such as this:
[q]15 billion or six days?
*snip*
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As for the happenings on each day, I'll make up the table he has in the book and post in in a few minutes.
Originally posted by vadar_1
pfft, duh. Thats exactly why we are negativly evolving. Soon instead of the superhuman, we will have a race of scrawny nerds.
Originally posted by Styxx
Nice article you have there, and a nice reference table too. Good way to relate creationism and evolution too, even though I can't say I fully agree with the concept of God.
:)
Originally posted by Star Dragon
It's just that I'm glad he's not a modler...
God - "Hey guys I got these great models I've been working on... Real Planets!"
Community - "Great! when will we be able to download it?"
God - "Oh in a day or too..."
Community - "Awesome!"
wait a sec... that's like 8 billion years!!!
:(
if scrawny nerds have the better survibility rate then scrawny nerds is what we'll get.
Originally posted by CP5670
Well, the thing is that these things mentioned in the Bible (or any other religious text) are so incredibly obscure that they could be interpreted as just about anything. (which is a lucky thing for the religious guys) Who knows, perhaps it is an account of how god created a computer game in that period. :D
That's because they do! :p :D
Meh, you wanna refute, then refute - don't just stand there and say that anything can be interpreted in any way you want - on an absolute sense, everything is obscure.
Originally posted by CP5670
Not just anything; the religious texts in particular, and I think you know that well.
Originally posted by CP5670
The problem is, you have about a hundred other distinct hypotheses that work just as well. :p :D
Originally posted by CP5670
For every correlation with scientific facts, you also have ten things that are completely against science. :p
Originally posted by CP5670
(you cannot "create" something out of absolutely nothing)
Originally posted by Kamikaze
These then mount to form a distinction we call "species", just a large set of differences. In fact you and me are different "species", but the difference is so miniscule we don't recognize it as a "species" difference.
Originally posted by GalacticEmperor
Oh, and by practicing abstinance, you are furthering the extinction of the human race. ;7
But this whole thing is not something I'm trying to shove down anyone's throat, forcing them to accept the statement or be burned at the stake - hardly. I am simply presenting an intruiging correlation of Science with the Bible concerning "the beginning". Take it as you will; personally I find it fascinating.
Not really. A species is defined as a set of individuals which have the ability to reproduce creating a fertile offspring.
Oh, and by practicing abstinance, you are furthering the extinction of the human race.
no this is compasion, wich before we were so good at keeping people alive was one of our best surival instincts, enableing you to gain and retain allies, and/or mates, and also good at giveing you're childeren a better chance at survival/reproducton.
how so?
though in most cases, so it would not really make a difference. "
not if they get eaten by a saber tooth cat that you and you're tribe could have fought off but didn't becase you didn't care about them
Originally posted by CP5670
The whole universe is made up for various parts that all reproduce over time. (even something like a rock breaking into pieces is reproduction)
Originally posted by Knight Templar
lil grey dudes?