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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: diamondgeezer on October 11, 2002, 10:48:54 am
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Now, just in case any admins out there are unsure, this thing is open source and free as fresh air, so no undue lockage please...
OK, I'm downloading America's Armies and have no idea about what to expect - thoughts?
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I d/led it quite a while ago but haven't had the chance to try it out yet but what I saw from the screenshots on the page, it looks beautiful.
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The propaganda game?
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Originally posted by an0n
The propaganda game?
YAY!
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it uses the UT2k3 engine so you need a good computer and graphics card
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Yeah, and a feebley simple/maleable mind.
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Originally posted by diamondgeezer
Now, just in case any admins out there are unsure, this thing is open source and free as fresh air, so no undue lockage please...
Even I am not that uncultured ;)
And I'm inclined to agree with an0n on this. As a game it's nothing special, other packages have done the same thing far better. The fact that it sets out to put across "real" military combat as opposed to the fun style portrayed by most games just lends weight to the arguement that many have voiced about it being a propoganda tool - and one marketed directly at children at that.
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They sensationalize middle-eastern and south-american fighting with pictures of kids with guns and stir up the great unwashed masses, then they go completely against their public facade and put out some crap like this.
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it plays too much like CS so i dont play it..
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Since it's about American army, I won't download it. :no: way.
That army caused pain and suffering to others and doesn't deserve any attention at all.
:no: :no: :no: Down with the game!!! :no: :no: :no:
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*wonders if it'd be possible to mod the game*
Hehe :drevil:
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By the way, who are they fighting against?
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Originally posted by Razor
By the way, who are they fighting against?
Left-wing activists.
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Meaning?
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Never tried this, so I cannot say anything about it.
That army caused pain and suffering to others and doesn't deserve any attention at all.
That is what I really like about it. ;7
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What game is that??
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whats it about
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Maybe I'm blind but... can we have a link for this thing? Sounds fun...
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Look for a link at Planet Unreal if you want it.
And to be honest, I Don't Do Politics, so I'll give it a whirl. TBO, I need something to wean my housemates off of Landwarrior(!)
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One of the greatest games I've ever played. It's uber-fun, and it has good graphics. The best part is, it encourages real-life teammwork, so yelling "I NEED SOME BACKUP!!!!" actually elicts a response from your buddies ;)
The only two bad things about the game are that you can't simply boot it up for some quick thrills, you need to WANT to play the game for an extended period of time. Also, the Gamespy crowd sux0rs, so try and play with the internal server browser as much as possible (plus, when you use that, you get a space reserved for you in every open game)
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www.americasarmy.com
:)
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Originally posted by Joey_21
I d/led it quite a while ago but haven't had the chance to try it out yet but what I saw from the screenshots on the page, it looks beautiful.
Same here. I have it on a cd but I intall it because I only got about 1gb of harddrive space left and I need it for.......stuff...
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Ahh yes, the worst (or best depending on your views) act of Propaganda in the world, ever. Not even the Soviet Union (in its Corrupt years) would have pulled pulled a stunt like that.
Hmm, modding that would be rather fun.
Meaning?
Are you telling me that you're from Former Yugoslavia (spelling) and don't know what left Wing Means?
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Originally posted by an0n
*wonders if it'd be possible to mod the game*
Hehe :drevil:
:lol:
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Pfef. The only interest this holds is that it's supporting a theory I have that there is not a single fully competent person working for the US government.
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Even the military promotes violent video games.
It's the American Way.
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Of course. They only wish they could blur the distinction between them and reality...
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Its a whopping 260MB!!! How am I going to download the damn thing with a 56k modem?!!
Wished I had more money to subscribe cable or broadband...
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I'll give you 10 dollars that if you ignore the fact that it's propoganda, you'll fall in love with it.
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Nope. It's still a steady mediocre at best.
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No way! The realism is top-notch, and the style of gameplay is very unique!
I think you guys are just all used to UT2K3 (which, incidentally, AA:O is based off of that game's engine :D)
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Well, I might not be the best judge. I'm not a shooter man, at heart. It just seems too much like a poor substitute for having an actual gun, if that's what you're into (and I am, provided I made the gun and it can take out a good-sized tank). I might be looking for the wrong things to expect from a shooter, but that's my opinion. And no, I only played Unreal once. The bass gave me a migraine, and I only got out of the flailing-about-randomly stage and into the running-into-walls one before being reduced to ash some 40 times in a row.
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Originally posted by Unknown Target
I'll give you 10 dollars that if you ignore the fact that it's propoganda, you'll fall in love with it.
It is PROPOGANDA!!! How can we ignore it??!!:D
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Originally posted by Top Gun
Are you telling me that you're from Former Yugoslavia (spelling) and don't know what left Wing Means?
Yes I am from Yugoslavia, and I don't know what left wing is.
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Left-wing means the guys who run the place, mate.
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Originally posted by Razor
Yes I am from Yugoslavia, and I don't know what left wing is.
Left Wing/Right wing comes from the british house of commons where the Liberals (Whigs), who wanted change, sat on the left hand side of the speaker and the Torys, who didn't, sat on the right hand side.
Now they're evolved into two opposing philosophies where left wingers generally want to change the distribution of wealth amongst the people through government intervention and Right Wingers want to sit back and let the Market dictate who get's money and who starves (guess which philosophy is implemented today). Extreme examples of this include Communism or hard Leftism (As written by Marx/Engles) and Fascism.
With Yugoslavia being a former Communist (or regieme that claimed to be) state, I would have thought Leftist/Right wing awareness would be impossible to escape.
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Oh God...:rolleyes:
Can't you people FOR ONCE forget that politics affects absouletely, 100-percent, EVERYTHING you do and actually enjoy a good game?
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1) It does.
2) AA: O bored the crap out of me as a game. That was disregarding the fact that it demonises the enemies of the current Washington regime (to be expected, of course) - although to be honest, in what way does the left wing threaten the US at all these days?
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Originally posted by Kellan
in what way does the left wing threaten the US at all these days?
Idologically it's highly dangerous for a Country with in excess of 40 million impoverished people but with more multi billionaires than ever, a neo-feudal class syestem (grading), puppet governments that cover a greater proportion of the earth surface than any empire ever and where most consumer products are made in sweatshops.
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As the wise man say:
"Acid is like a woman. A good one will eat right through your pants."
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:lol:
As for the Left, I was referring more to the fact that it offers no threat in military terms. There is a little less than zero chance of the leftist regimes of the world overthrowing the US Government. Any change would come via the American people, and it'd be a poor form of propaganda that urged you to join the Army in order to shoot your neighbours.
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I wouldn't say that, there are still a very strong leftist parties in former USSR nations that stand a high chance of gaining power.
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I think the point is that no outside influence whatsoever is gonna have much effect on the US. It could, twenty or forty years down the line, but it's crumbling internally too fast to fall from outside force. It won't be the New Soviets in the streets, it'll be Amerika's own children, howling for its death.
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And then it'd be up to a lone, nano-augmented agent to save the world, eh?
*actions slide on 10mm and puts on shades*
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*allows modem to see size of download*
*modem cries*
*vyper cries*
*goes to bed with big cookie and hot chocolate, giving modem a surge protecter to relax with*
Too big.... toooooo biiiiggg.
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Actually, Left, Right, and Center come from the French Revolution, not from Britain.
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
I think the point is that no outside influence whatsoever is gonna have much effect on the US. It could, twenty or forty years down the line, but it's crumbling internally too fast to fall from outside force. It won't be the New Soviets in the streets, it'll be Amerika's own children, howling for its death.
Quite.
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
I think the point is that no outside influence whatsoever is gonna have much effect on the US. It could, twenty or forty years down the line, but it's crumbling internally too fast to fall from outside force. It won't be the New Soviets in the streets, it'll be Amerika's own children, howling for its death.
I very much doubt that. American Chauvinism in the youth is as strong as ever, and will continue to be as long as the meme is perpetuated in the schools.
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You have to agree that it's more likely than Cuba invading Florida. :lol:
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I'd be prepared to say it's about as likely (not very).
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*drinks capitalist made juice, with capitalist made burger, while typing on capitalist made keyboard, looking at capitalist made screen*
Carry on. :blah:
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I am no great supporter of capitalism, but as I have said here countless times, I want it to thrive to its fullest at the moment (that is, for a couple centuries), since that and only that will ensure its eventual demise.
I think the point is that no outside influence whatsoever is gonna have much effect on the US. It could, twenty or forty years down the line, but it's crumbling internally too fast to fall from outside force. It won't be the New Soviets in the streets, it'll be Amerika's own children, howling for its death.
You underestimate the power of governmental propaganda... ;7 :D
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Originally posted by CP5670
I am no great supporter of capitalism, but as I have said here countless times, I want it to thrive to its fullest at the moment (that is, for a couple centuries), since that and only that will ensure its eventual demise.
You contradict yourself; you argue based on the assumption that it is logical to be 100% selfish yet the chances of that happening in your lifetime are very rare. Would it therefore more logical to fight your ideals through a more forceful means in order for you to get the satisfaction of seeing them implemented (and taking all the risks involved).
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Whatever I do, this will not be effectively implemented in my lifetime anyway. I can try for a revolution (assuming that it will actually get anywhere in this day), but then you will most likely have the same slow train of collapse back to capitalism that we have seen in history many times, and a period of ruin for everyone in between. Regardless of this though, my life is perfectly fine at the moment, so I have no reason to want any immediate change. (same goes for just about everyone else around here) I as an individual will prosper much more under a capitalist system, since capitalism favors the individual man; the society as an entire unit is what will suffer, which makes the system pointless from that point of view, but that is not my personal concern, and it will take care of itself over time anyway.