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Title: Secret Weapons in FS1?
Post by: aldo_14 on October 11, 2002, 04:37:45 pm
Jus' wonderings.... a/ is the ShieldBreaker in the campaign?

b/ is the Railgun any good?

c/ anyone got a screenshot of either?

(in case you're wondering, the FS1 weapons.tbl has 2 secret weapons - the Shield Breaker and the Railgun.  The Railgun's commented out, though)
Title: Secret Weapons in FS1?
Post by: quadinhonic_II on October 11, 2002, 04:43:08 pm
Isnt the ShieldBreaker in Silent Threat? I think its called the S-Breaker in ST though.

The S-Breaker from ST, in my opinon, would be a very nice predcesser to the Circe.

Never heard of the Railgun. I still got Fs1 installed, so I'll look and try to get some pics.
Title: Secret Weapons in FS1?
Post by: aldo_14 on October 11, 2002, 04:49:18 pm
Quote
from weapons.tbl

; ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
;; GTW - 99 Railgun
;; Secret weapon 2
;;$Name:               Railgun      ;;   the anti-subsystem weapon
;;$Model File:         none ;   laser1-1.pof
;;@Laser Bitmap:         laserglow02
;;@Laser Color:        150, 150, 250
;;@Laser Length:       100.0
;;@Laser Head Radius:  0.30
;;@Laser Tail Radius:  0.30
;;$Mass:               0.2
;;$Velocity:            1000.0            ;; speed of the weapon (initially) -- may or may not change
;;$Fire Wait:            2.0            ;; in seconds
;;$Damage:            30               ;;   Note, as a puncture weapon, hull damage is reduced by 75%.  Base amount done to subsystems.
;;$Armor Factor:         1.0
;;$Shield Factor:         1.0
;;$Subsystem Factor:      1.0
;;$Lifetime:            1.5
;;$Energy Consumed:      5.0            ;; Energy used when fired
;;$Cargo Size:         0.0            ;; Amount of space taken up in weapon cargo
;;$Homing:            NO
;;$LaunchSnd:             80               ;;   The sound it makes when fired
;;$ImpactSnd:            105               ;; The sound it makes when it hits something
;;$Flags:               ("player allowed")
;;$Trail:               YES                  ;; Trail cannot be set if Exhaust is set
;;   +Head Width:      0.3                  ;; Width of trail nearest missile
;;   +Tail Width:      0.05                  ;; Width of trail before it "evaporates"
;;   +Life:            2.0                  ;; how many seconds before trail disappears
;;   +Bitmap:         MissileTrail03         ;; Bitmap used to draw trail
;;$Icon:               icongun04
;;$Anim:               LoadGun04
;;$Impact Explosion:   none


; ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
;; GTW - 99 Shield Breaker
;; Secret weapon 1
$Name:               Shield Breaker      ;;   the anti-subsystem weapon
$Model File:         none ;   laser1-1.pof
@Laser Bitmap:         laserglow06
@Laser Color:         190, 150, 250
@Laser Length:         0.0
@Laser Head Radius:      2.0
@Laser Tail Radius:      2.0
$Mass:               0.2
$Velocity:            400.0            ;; speed of the weapon (initially) -- may or may not change
$Fire Wait:            0.3            ;; in seconds
$Damage:            40               ;;   Note, as a puncture weapon, hull damage is reduced by 75%.  Base amount done to subsystems.
$Armor Factor:         0.0
$Shield Factor:         1.0
$Subsystem Factor:      0.0
$Lifetime:            4.0
$Energy Consumed:      0.2            ;; Energy used when fired
$Cargo Size:         0.0            ;; Amount of space taken up in weapon cargo
$Homing:            NO
$LaunchSnd:             86               ;;   The sound it makes when fired
$ImpactSnd:            105               ;; The sound it makes when it hits something
$Flags:               ()
$Trail:               NO
$Icon:               icongun07
$Anim:               LoadGun07
$Impact Explosion:   none




Title: Secret Weapons in FS1?
Post by: quadinhonic_II on October 11, 2002, 04:51:58 pm
Ya i found them. I'll get screenies up in 30 min (Fs1...havent played it in awhile...hope it still works (crosses fingers))
Title: Secret Weapons in FS1?
Post by: neo_hermes on October 11, 2002, 05:22:54 pm
I want a Railcannon I want a Railcannon
I want a Railcannon  ! ! !
Title: Secret Weapons in FS1?
Post by: Nico on October 11, 2002, 05:46:00 pm
wait for OTT, you'll have plenty of them :P
Title: Secret Weapons in FS1?
Post by: quadinhonic_II on October 11, 2002, 05:50:14 pm
Finally! Fs1 was being a pain in the ass. It couldn't find the Fs.exe then it couldnt find the mission, arrghh!! But me being me, I kept at it and got some pics. I got the pics barly, as Fs would crash 1:25 into the mission (dont care what is causeing the prob, as I'll most likly reinstall the game if I wanted to play it again) Heres the pics:

(http://www.thomasbode.com/support/Freespace/screen01.jpg)

Shield Breaker is the exact same as the S-Breaker from Silent Threat. My guess is that :v: was going to use the Shield Breaker for something in FS1 The Great War, but they instead put it in ST.

(http://www.thomasbode.com/support/Freespace/screen02.jpg)

Another angle of the Shield Breaker. On the upper right is part of the subspace vortex, (before any asks :))

(http://www.thomasbode.com/support/Freespace/screen03.jpg)

This is the Railgun. It is very simaler to Bobboau's Pharnac, used on Ancient craft. Unfortunly, its nothing new :(

(http://www.thomasbode.com/support/Freespace/screen04.jpg)

Another angle of the Railgun.

(http://www.thomasbode.com/support/Freespace/screen05.jpg)

A 2nd angle of the Railgun.

So, if you were looking for anything new, Aldo, these weapons are not it.
Title: Secret Weapons in FS1?
Post by: Solatar on October 11, 2002, 06:05:19 pm
What did you do to the graphics? You need to go into setup, and detect your 3d accelerator, it will fix those graphics.
Title: Railguns
Post by: Star Dragon on October 11, 2002, 06:09:31 pm
Hey Aldo, I like yor railguns in model dump2... I made a VF a bomber but it can't equip the railgums (turns them to tempests) .. they work with that bomber you made GTB Surt... Do I have to change anything critical? Anyway great job! I like the bomber and the weapons...  

   Would you be interested in mkaing a few weaps based on Japanese Anime?
Title: Secret Weapons in FS1?
Post by: quadinhonic_II on October 11, 2002, 06:11:59 pm
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Originally posted by Hades
What did you do to the graphics? You need to go into setup, and detect your 3d accelerator, it will fix those graphics.


Its always been like that. I have to update just about everything on my computer. Never had time though. Thats Fs1, Fs2 looks great. Besides I dont care that much how Fs1 looks.
Title: Secret Weapons in FS1?
Post by: CP5670 on October 11, 2002, 09:17:49 pm
I had seen the shield breaker before but not the railgun; the shield breaker seems to be pretty much the same thing as the S-breaker except that it uses a different firing sound. The railgun looks a bit like something in my campaign, and I didn't even know it existed... :p
Title: Secret Weapons in FS1?
Post by: Solatar on October 11, 2002, 09:39:25 pm
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Originally posted by quadinhonic_II


Its always been like that. I have to update just about everything on my computer. Never had time though. Thats Fs1, Fs2 looks great. Besides I dont care that much how Fs1 looks.


Mine was like that for the longests time, then I detected by 3d card, and presto, my Silent Threat install on the DVD verison looked awesome. But I agree, I don't care what fs1 looks like either.
Title: Re: Railguns
Post by: aldo_14 on October 12, 2002, 06:35:30 am
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Originally posted by Star Dragon
Hey Aldo, I like yor railguns in model dump2... I made a VF a bomber but it can't equip the railgums (turns them to tempests) .. they work with that bomber you made GTB Surt... Do I have to change anything critical? Anyway great job! I like the bomber and the weapons...  

   Would you be interested in mkaing a few weaps based on Japanese Anime?


Actually, Sesquipaedlian tabled the weapon, and the pof is Bobbaus.  Maybe make sure your bomber has the railgun in the allowed sbanks?
Title: Secret Weapons in FS1?
Post by: diamondgeezer on October 12, 2002, 07:39:13 am
Err... forgive me if this makes me sound a bit thick, but can one put the corkscrew flag on a primary?
Title: w00t
Post by: silverwolf on October 12, 2002, 03:15:38 pm
in fs 2 i found a weapon that looked like a ud8 kayser but had no name or description in multi player once...:wtf:
Title: Re: w00t
Post by: karajorma on October 12, 2002, 05:28:06 pm
Quote
Originally posted by silverwolf
in fs 2 i found a weapon that looked like a ud8 kayser but had no name or description in multi player once...:wtf:


It probably WAS a kayser then. :D Just a bug that prevented it identifying itself as one. FS can do some freaky stuff at times :)
Title: Secret Weapons in FS1?
Post by: vyper on October 12, 2002, 06:23:14 pm
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Originally posted by diamondgeezer
Err... forgive me if this makes me sound a bit thick, but can one put the corkscrew flag on a primary?


Try it and tell us wot happens...:D
Title: Secret Weapons in FS1?
Post by: Shrike on October 12, 2002, 06:32:59 pm
Quote
Originally posted by neo_hermes
I want a Railcannon I want a Railcannon
I want a Railcannon  ! ! !
Go put a Maxim in your fighter.  Problem solved.
Title: Re: w00t
Post by: Cetanu on October 13, 2002, 06:06:39 am
Quote
Originally posted by silverwolf
in fs 2 i found a weapon that looked like a ud8 kayser but had no name or description in multi player once...:wtf:


it was the Targeting Laser - pretty useless without further mods
Title: Secret Weapons in FS1?
Post by: LtNarol on October 13, 2002, 09:22:28 am
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Originally posted by vyper


Try it and tell us wot happens...:D
It works but it doesnt do damage past a certain point, even though its supposedly well within the weapon's range, you can see the bolts hit the target but no damage is applied...its screwy
Title: Secret Weapons in FS1?
Post by: aldo_14 on October 13, 2002, 09:42:58 am
Quote
Originally posted by neo_hermes
I want a Railcannon I want a Railcannon
I want a Railcannon  ! ! !


(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/reciprocity/railgun1.jpg)
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/reciprocity/railgun2.jpg)

Wait for C.o.W.......
Title: Re: Re: w00t
Post by: silverwolf on October 13, 2002, 10:18:34 am
Quote
Originally posted by Cetanu


it was the Targeting Laser - pretty useless without further mods


and why would it be in mutli and not singal and what does it do :drevil:
Title: Secret Weapons in FS1?
Post by: BlackDove on October 13, 2002, 06:30:33 pm
The thing was supposed to call in a helios from subspace or something like that...looks like a blue fighter beam
Title: Secret Weapons in FS1?
Post by: Galemp on October 13, 2002, 09:10:45 pm
I have the railgun in the Port, and will be included in the Vasudan Campaign. Check out the Port 'Features' page for my take on it.

I just HAD to jack up its damage rating to make it useful, though.
Title: Secret Weapons in FS1?
Post by: silverwolf on October 13, 2002, 09:37:50 pm
Quote
Originally posted by BD
The thing was supposed to call in a helios from subspace or something like that...looks like a blue fighter beam


hmm i heard some wear if you in a bomber it fires ten hilioses from your ship :eek2:
Title: Secret Weapons in FS1?
Post by: JudgeMental on October 14, 2002, 11:02:25 pm
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hmm i heard some wear if you in a bomber it fires ten hilioses from your ship :eek2:


Any truth to this?  I might have to investigate this myself...  Even if it doesn't, perhaps someone working on FS_Open could insert it as an easter egg:-)