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Title: Coming soon: My definition of subspace
Post by: JudgeMental on October 14, 2002, 10:51:11 pm
I'm currently writing a fictional (obviously) piece on subspace.  I'm trying to tie together some of the Freespace gameplay elements and technologies with an explaination of subspace, and how it works.  Right now, I'm on the second page, and it occured to me that I should ask if something like this has been done before.

I don't really care if it has or not, but if it has, I want to read it before I go on.

It's just an informal piece, written as if it were for the layman of the Freespace universe.  Maybe I'll post it if I think it's OK.

I don't know why I'm telling you all this...  Well, might as well try to make it productive:-P  Do you guys have any ideas on how I could do this?  I have a pretty complete idea of what I want to say, but you never know.  I think that once I can show it, more relevant ideas will arise.
Title: Coming soon: My definition of subspace
Post by: vadar_1 on October 14, 2002, 11:22:15 pm
Actually there are thousands of theories and explinations of subspace bud. It does exist and it is physically possible, of course, it won't look like what it does in FS.
Title: Coming soon: My definition of subspace
Post by: JudgeMental on October 14, 2002, 11:34:31 pm
Oh, I know that subspace could be/is a very real thing.  I'm quite into physics, though I've been out of touch for a while, and most of the stuff I'm reading now is a little older.  It's why (along with that fact that I'm terrible at writing) I'm having my hand at a fictional piece, instead of a fully researched paper.

What I mean to say is that I'm writing a completely fictional piece based on Freespace.  But instead of a story, it is more like an article or something that you might find in a science magazine in the Freespace world.

It would be enjoyable to write a paper on various theories of subspace, but I am nowhere near educated enough to write one.  So, I'm just having some fun in a simplified world:)
Title: Coming soon: My definition of subspace
Post by: Killfrenzy on October 16, 2002, 01:54:35 pm
The great question is: How long will it take us to work out how to do interstellar travel? By any means?
Title: Coming soon: My definition of subspace
Post by: karajorma on October 16, 2002, 02:38:34 pm
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Originally posted by Killfrenzy
The great question is: How long will it take us to work out how to do interstellar travel? By any means?


We've done it already. I believe one of the voyager craft is on target for another star system. Of course it will take 40,000 years to reach it  :lol:
Title: Coming soon: My definition of subspace
Post by: Riven on October 16, 2002, 02:51:43 pm
read the freespace bible that has some in
Title: Coming soon: My definition of subspace
Post by: Black_Dragon on October 16, 2002, 03:53:26 pm
Geee   :wtf:

Ehh,  i will not say what im thinking right now,   :D ;)


Well,  bend reality or bend space,  go watch some sci-fi movies or episodes,  some have a different point on subspac,  hyperspace,  or trispace travel,  


Or go to a world of pure chaos,   Jeje,  like Event Horizon  cool movie,
Title: Coming soon: My definition of subspace
Post by: Solatar on October 16, 2002, 05:54:23 pm
Also, for theories on subspace, go into the tech room in fs2. I think it does a good job explaing it.
Title: Coming soon: My definition of subspace
Post by: Black_Dragon on October 16, 2002, 10:55:48 pm
Yeah,   FS2 has it

It seems that you were bored that day,  eh?  Nothing to do and that pops out.
Title: Coming soon: My definition of subspace
Post by: Killfrenzy on October 17, 2002, 04:42:14 am
What I meant by interstellar travel was interstellar travel WITHOUT taking a small eternity to travel there.....
Title: Coming soon: My definition of subspace
Post by: karajorma on October 17, 2002, 04:55:21 am
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Originally posted by Killfrenzy
What I meant by interstellar travel was interstellar travel WITHOUT taking a small eternity to travel there.....


I know but that's a harder question to answer. It would be like asking someone in the 16th century when man will go to the moon. There's no way to give a sensible answer.
Title: Coming soon: My definition of subspace
Post by: JudgeMental on October 17, 2002, 11:08:41 am
Hmm...  I seem to remember something about subspace in the tech room...  Unfortunately, Freespace 2 always crashes if I try and go to it.  However, if memory serves, my little project should tie into it fairly well.  If it doesn't, I'll see if I can rework it.  Besides, both that and the FS bible were quite brief.  My thing is going to be several pages.

I happen to know that several of you who might laugh at what I have to say, but remember, it's sci-fi.  I'm using it as an opportunity to flex a bit of my imagination muscle.
Title: Coming soon: My definition of subspace
Post by: karajorma on October 17, 2002, 04:51:39 pm
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Originally posted by JudgeMental
Hmm...  I seem to remember something about subspace in the tech room...  Unfortunately, Freespace 2 always crashes if I try and go to it.  However, if memory serves, my little project should tie into it fairly well.  If it doesn't, I'll see if I can rework it.  Besides, both that and the FS bible were quite brief.  My thing is going to be several pages.


Get VPView (Check my FAQ if you don`t know how) and look at the species.tbl That will allow you to read the text from outside of FS2.
Title: Coming soon: My definition of subspace
Post by: JudgeMental on October 17, 2002, 08:53:16 pm
Ah, thanks.  I should have thought of VPView already...  Oh well.  I'll go take a look.
Title: Coming soon: My definition of subspace
Post by: <<ERROR>> on October 27, 2002, 05:10:09 pm
Anothe thing about the possible 'subspace', best summed up by a quote from a very good game: "What if I told you that you could bend space and not be able to bend it back" - Dr. Marie Delacroix, System Shock 2. If you fly sideways on to that tunnel of bent space, your ship woiuld be ripped apart by sheer molecular distortion.
Title: Calculus?!?!?!
Post by: Rampage on October 27, 2002, 07:40:56 pm
Do I detect a sense of calculus??????  This should be fun!  E-mail me your theory, I'll try to devise an equation for it.
Title: Low Budget Space Travel
Post by: CateranOverlord on October 27, 2002, 07:41:35 pm
put a guy in a little capsule and launch aimlessly.
Title: Re: Low Budget Space Travel
Post by: Su-tehp on October 27, 2002, 08:57:27 pm
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Originally posted by CateranOverlord
put a guy in a little capsule and launch aimlessly.


That sounds suspiciously like what the Soviets did in 1957, when they launched Sputnik into orbit, only they used a dog instead of a man. The men came later.:nod: :D
Title: Re: Re: Low Budget Space Travel
Post by: Stunaep on October 28, 2002, 02:40:02 am
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Originally posted by Su-tehp


That sounds suspiciously like what the Soviets did in 1957, when they launched Sputnik into orbit, only they used a dog instead of a man. The men came later.:nod: :D


The first Sputnik was unmanned. Laika came a few years later,
Title: Re: Re: Re: Low Budget Space Travel
Post by: karajorma on October 28, 2002, 03:53:31 am
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Originally posted by Stunaep


The first Sputnik was unmanned. Laika came a few years later,


Not quite

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 FromThe history of Space Exploration (http://www.nauts.com/vehicles/50s/sputnik.html)

Sputnik 1, launched on October 4, 1957, was the world's first artificial satellite. It had a mass of 83.6 kilograms. It was designed to determine the density of the upper atmosphere and return data about the Earth's ionosphere However, its two radio transmitters only returned signals to Earth for 21 days.

Sputnik 2 was launched on November 3, 1957, and carried aboard it a dog, Laika. This time the satellite weighed 508.3 kilograms. Biological data was returned for approximately a week (the first data of its kind). The data showed scientists how Laika was adapting to space -- information important to the manned missions already being planned. There was no safe re-entry possible at the time, so Laika was put to sleep. The satellite itself remained in orbit 162 days.

Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Low Budget Space Travel
Post by: Stunaep on October 28, 2002, 08:43:56 am
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Originally posted by karajorma


Not quite

 


well. so I overshot about a year or two. Oops.
Title: Coming soon: My definition of subspace
Post by: CateranOverlord on October 28, 2002, 06:26:01 pm
I never said it was an "original" idea.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Low Budget Space Travel
Post by: Su-tehp on October 28, 2002, 11:39:00 pm
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Originally posted by Stunaep
well. so I overshot about a year or two. Oops.


Don't feel too bad, Stunaep. I forgot to mention that Sputnik 1 was unmanned, though technically I was right about Laika the dog being on a Sputnik satellite, I just didn't mention which one.

And I got the year correct! Whoo hoo! I actually remembered something from my middle school history class! This is quite an accomplishment, since those years remain a big blur for me...it was twenty years ago...damn, where's my cane?;) :D