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Title: The Doomsday Machine
Post by: Sandwich on October 16, 2002, 10:07:34 am: (http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/qm/pub/sandwich/renders/doomsday_machine-thumb.jpg) (http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/qm/pub/sandwich/renders/doomsday_machine.jpg)

As many guesses as you want as to how I did the Doomsday Machine itself. :D ;7

*rubs hands together*

This'll be fun... :drevil:
Title: The Doomsday Machine
Post by: Nico on October 16, 2002, 10:26:53 am: and what is it?
Title: The Doomsday Machine
Post by: Sandwich on October 16, 2002, 10:37:16 am: Quote
Originally posted by venom2506
and what is it?

:wtf: You never saw the original Trek, did you?

Click me! (http://www.ditl.org/index.htm?daybody=/ships/picdoomday.htm)
Title: The Doomsday Machine
Post by: Nico on October 16, 2002, 11:08:53 am: startrk? no, I won't click :p
Title: The Doomsday Machine
Post by: Fineus on October 16, 2002, 11:57:07 am: It's something to do with the Typhon textures or Subspace tube, I'm sure...
Title: The Doomsday Machine
Post by: an0n on October 16, 2002, 12:10:18 pm: Looks like he took a picture of something shiny (a pot-roast, a huge turd etc), then copy-resize'd it a few times and screwed around with the lighting and colour balance.

Or covered a water-bottle in tar.
Title: Re: The Doomsday Machine
Post by: Sandwich on October 16, 2002, 12:16:47 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Sandwich
This'll be fun... :drevil:

Ooh! I was right, this is fun! :devil:
Title: The Doomsday Machine
Post by: Galemp on October 16, 2002, 01:16:02 pm: He glued a dozen Ganymedes together and gave them the Arcadia textures.
Title: The Doomsday Machine
Post by: Fineus on October 16, 2002, 01:25:21 pm: Hehe, you will never guess this ;)

(Has the inside info now)...
Title: The Doomsday Machine
Post by: Nico on October 16, 2002, 01:31:04 pm: looks like this thing you can eat ( don't know the english name )
Title: The Doomsday Machine
Post by: Stryke 9 on October 16, 2002, 01:32:52 pm: A hollowed death-turd?
Title: The Doomsday Machine
Post by: Shrike on October 16, 2002, 02:04:50 pm: The giant cone of doom! It ate planets you know.
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Post by: wEvil on October 16, 2002, 02:33:34 pm: mmm....lummey. ;7
Title: The Doomsday Machine
Post by: Stealth on October 16, 2002, 03:49:18 pm: no it's not... it's a modified black hole!

either that or a massive beam cannon / tractor beam!!!
Title: Hey Sandwich
Post by: Star Dragon on October 16, 2002, 04:04:54 pm: I just got done downloading the sounds for it (weapons fire) and was wondering: (1) Is it in game? (2) can we put it in a ST mod? (3) can I have it anyway ;7

BTW that is a cool A$$ed render! That should have been the cover of the ST Novel (Picard) VENGENCE, when the Doomsday Machines BIG BROTHER comes along and Picard must stop it.

"Sir 2 Borg cubes are engaging the DM, and their getting their A$$es kicked!"

I fell outta my chair when the Admiral ordered Picard to help the Borg! F-that!

Turns out the origianl DM was a protoype built by Guinan's race and sent to to Borg space (Earth was in the way, an accident). They were finishing the REAL WEAPON when the final Borg atttack happened. Centuries later the weapon is activated and now we have another DM going near Earth to fight the Borg...
Title: Re: Hey Sandwich
Post by: mikhael on October 16, 2002, 04:30:46 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Star Dragon

Turns out the origianl DM was a protoype built by Guinan's race and sent to to Borg space (Earth was in the way, an accident). They were finishing the REAL WEAPON when the final Borg atttack happened. Centuries later the weapon is activated and now we have another DM going near Earth to fight the Borg...

I love the smell of retroactive continuity editting in the morning! It smells like... a festering, dead, wet dog that's been rolling around in kimchi.
Title: Re: Hey Sandwich
Post by: Sandwich on October 16, 2002, 05:06:45 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Star Dragon
I just got done downloading the sounds for it (weapons fire) and was wondering: (1) Is it in game? (2) can we put it in a ST mod? (3) can I have it anyway ;7

BTW that is a cool A$$ed render! That should have been the cover of the ST Novel (Picard) VENGENCE, when the Doomsday Machines BIG BROTHER comes along and Picard must stop it.

"Sir 2 Borg cubes are engaging the DM, and their getting their A$$es kicked!"

I fell outta my chair when the Admiral ordered Picard to help the Borg! F-that!

Turns out the origianl DM was a protoype built by Guinan's race and sent to to Borg space (Earth was in the way, an accident). They were finishing the REAL WEAPON when the final Borg atttack happened. Centuries later the weapon is activated and now we have another DM going near Earth to fight the Borg...

hehehe:

(1) No, it isn't (Thunder, do you find this amusing at all? ;7)
(2) Yes, you can
(3) Yes, you may.

Wondering if I lost my mind? Nope, sorry - not yet.

An0n is the closest so far - it's a picture, a photograph, of something, not a render.

However, I was working on a model of the doomsday machine, lemme dredge up a screenshot. Hold your horses.

Oh, and BTW, the novel is Vendetta, by Peter David, and regardless of mikhael's views, retroactive continuity editing absolutely rules under 2 conditions:

1 - When it's done by Peter David
2 - When it's not explaining contradictions, but filling in storyline elements never touched before.

Now, lemme find that screenie.
Title: Re: Re: Hey Sandwich
Post by: mikhael on October 16, 2002, 05:20:39 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Sandwich

1 - When it's done by Peter David
2 - When it's not explaining contradictions, but filling in storyline elements never touched before.

Meh. Peter David honestly rings no bells for me (the last Trek novel I read was.. um.. Prime Directive I think. That was before half this board started elementary school). RetCons are almost never done well, and anything that involves Guinan is right out. Next to making Q a recurring character, Guinan is the worst Trek concept ever to get cast.

BTW, is that silvered air ducting, like would come off the back of an electric clothes dryer? Or perhaps airconditioning ducts for use in drop ceilings?
Title: Re: Re: Re: Hey Sandwich
Post by: Sandwich on October 16, 2002, 05:25:15 pm: Quote
Originally posted by mikhael

Meh. Peter David honestly rings no bells for me (the last Trek novel I read was.. um.. Prime Directive I think. That was before half this board started elementary school). RetCons are almost never done well, and anything that involves Guinan is right out. Next to making Q a recurring character, Guinan is the worst Trek concept ever to get cast.

Yeah, by Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stevens. That was a good one - really mysterious-like up till the end. Beware the Vacu-Ants! ;)

To be fair, you should at least try Peter David, though. Go pick up Vendetta. It's the only ST book I've read over 10 times. ;)

Out of curiosity, what is it about Guinan you don't like?

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Originally posted by mikhael
BTW, is that silvered air ducting, like would come off the back of an electric clothes dryer? Or perhaps airconditioning ducts for use in drop ceilings?

Nope and nope. :D Now, on to the screenie! ;7

The Doomsday Machine / Planet Killer - 355 polys, non-triangulated. Figure a maximum of twice that after triangulation.
(http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/qm/pub/sandwich/images/doomsday-machine-model-preview.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Hey Sandwich
Post by: mikhael on October 16, 2002, 05:51:36 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Sandwich
Out of curiosity, what is it about Guinan you don't like?

Sweet model.

Guinan, like Q, existed entirely as a plot device throughout the series. She was never a fully formed character, just this convenient way to explain something away. Don't understand why something is the way it is? Go ask Guinan. Mucking about in Earth's past? Run it past Guinan, she was there. Doomsday Machine coming toward Earth? Little did you know, Guinan's daddy was playing about in the machine shed one day...

Now, is it one of those children's plastic tunnel things? I'm almost certain I see a helical structure supporting some sort of flexible 'skin', so its gotta be a hose/duct of some sort. The tunnel thing is my last guess.
Title: The Doomsday Machine
Post by: Galemp on October 16, 2002, 07:22:16 pm: Sandwich! How can you texture in Rhino? (That is Rhino, isn't it?)
Title: The Doomsday Machine
Post by: Alikchi on October 16, 2002, 07:23:58 pm: Sorry GE..it doesn't transfer into TS :blah:
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Hey Sandwich
Post by: Sandwich on October 16, 2002, 08:37:07 pm: Quote
Originally posted by mikhael

Sweet model.

Much grass. ;)

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Originally posted by mikhael
Guinan, like Q, existed entirely as a plot device throughout the series. She was never a fully formed character, just this convenient way to explain something away. Don't understand why something is the way it is? Go ask Guinan. Mucking about in Earth's past? Run it past Guinan, she was there. Doomsday Machine coming toward Earth? Little did you know, Guinan's daddy was playing about in the machine shed one day...

Ok, I can see where you're coming from. I guess I never thought of it that way because I never saw the series with anything even approximating consistancy. :-/ Oh well, she's not used in such a manner in Vendetta - I don't think. I haven't really read it with that aspect in mind, but I think I should be able to tell after reading it a dozen times. :p Go read it - it's quite the novel. :)

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Originally posted by mikhael
Now, is it one of those children's plastic tunnel things? I'm almost certain I see a helical structure supporting some sort of flexible 'skin', so its gotta be a hose/duct of some sort. The tunnel thing is my last guess.

Nope, nope, nope. :D I'll give everyone a hint: ask Corsair. :D

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Originally posted by GalacticEmperor
Sandwich! How can you texture in Rhino? (That is Rhino, isn't it?)

Yes, that's Rhino. You can apply a single texture to each face, and with v2 you can also apply a bumpmap. But you have absolutely no choice as to how it gets applied to that face, no UV mapping, nothing.

To answer your question, you can choose a texture with a polygon selected, hit the multicolored ring button - object properties, IIRC.

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Originally posted by Alikchi
Sorry GE..it doesn't transfer into TS :blah:

Yeah. Blah. :blah:
Title: The Doomsday Machine
Post by: BlackDove on October 17, 2002, 12:28:46 am: That thing looks like a vacuum cleaning hose :wtf:

It looks like something else too, but I can't go there ;)
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Post by: Knight Templar on October 17, 2002, 12:37:37 am: I thought that was the "Space Whale" form ST4 at first.. go figure it was the planet killer.. :doubt:
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Post by: Fineus on October 17, 2002, 02:04:46 am: Hehehee, this is really hillarious. ;7
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Post by: Cannikin on October 17, 2002, 03:15:56 am: Actually it looks more like a giant space leech. I wonder what it sucks blood off of....
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Post by: Black Wolf on October 17, 2002, 03:58:28 am: Seeing as how there all lauging, and it's Sandwich, is it a gun of some sort?
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Post by: Fineus on October 17, 2002, 04:02:03 am: No :lol:
Title: The Doomsday Machine
Post by: Sandwich on October 17, 2002, 05:49:55 am: Quote
Originally posted by Thunder
Hehehee, this is really hillarious. ;7

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Originally posted by Sandwich
This'll be fun... :drevil:

Told ya. :D
Title: The Doomsday Machine
Post by: DragonClaw on October 17, 2002, 06:18:32 am: /me thinks this is an underhanded attempt by Sandwich and Thunder to spam and get a higher post count.
Title: The Doomsday Machine
Post by: Sandwich on October 17, 2002, 07:16:13 am: Quote
Originally posted by RKIF-DragonClaw
/me thinks this is an underhanded attempt by Sandwich and Thunder to spam and get a higher post count.

:wtf: Do you truly think we need to resort to something like this in order to get a higher postcount? :wtf:

It started out as a picture - a photograph - of something that Corsair would have a better chance of identifying than the rest of you. :D
Title: The Doomsday Machine
Post by: Stealth on October 17, 2002, 08:49:07 am: well whatever it is it looks good :D

pfffff, i'm on volition watch staff and i still don't have FTP access, but he does :rolleyes: just kidding ;)
Title: The Doomsday Machine
Post by: Galemp on October 17, 2002, 11:39:29 am: Quote
Originally posted by Sandwich
It started out as a picture - a photograph - of something that Corsair would have a better chance of identifying than the rest of you. :D

*takes another look* Hmmm... a custom-made yamulka for Coneheads?
Title: The Doomsday Machine
Post by: an0n on October 17, 2002, 11:44:02 am: Quote
Originally posted by Sandwich
It started out as a picture - a photograph - of something that Corsair would have a better chance of identifying than the rest of you. :D

It's not that brown malty-wheaty-chocolate-jewish crap is it? I forget the name.

*goes to search the forums for that thread*

EDIT: Well it was in an Easter thread. Easter - Religion - Judaism. Meh:

(http://virtual.finland.fi/finfo/images/easter3.jpg)

?
Title: The Doomsday Machine
Post by: Fineus on October 17, 2002, 12:25:24 pm: They're getting warmer....
Title: The Doomsday Machine
Post by: an0n on October 17, 2002, 12:39:15 pm: If this involves German 'shizer movies' I'm going to be severely.......what's the word?.....Annoyed? No.......Arous...No......Impressed. That's the one. I'll be impressed.
Title: The Doomsday Machine
Post by: Stealth on October 17, 2002, 12:47:01 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Thunder
They're getting warmer....

i know it, but i'm not going to spoil it for everyone :D
Title: The Doomsday Machine
Post by: delta_7890 on October 17, 2002, 01:58:17 pm: ..It looks like a vacuum hose...
Title: The Doomsday Machine
Post by: Goober5000 on October 17, 2002, 02:13:49 pm: A bolt?

A Bugle (as in the snack)?

A straw? As in those little ribbed thermos straw things...

Umm...a candle?

*flails*

:)
Title: The Doomsday Machine
Post by: Goober5000 on October 17, 2002, 02:14:43 pm: Ooh ooh! A Chinese finger trap? :nod:
Title: The Doomsday Machine
Post by: Reppyboyo on October 17, 2002, 03:37:36 pm: Turds in spaaaaaaaaaaaaccccceeeeeee
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Post by: Knight Templar on October 17, 2002, 05:01:14 pm: A waaay old joint
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Post by: Sandwich on October 17, 2002, 06:22:27 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Stealth
pfffff, i'm on volition watch staff and i still don't have FTP access, but he does :rolleyes: just kidding ;)

Huh? What is this in reference to? :confused:

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Originally posted by GalacticEmperor

*takes another look* Hmmm... a custom-made yamulka for Coneheads?

Getting even closer.... :)

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Originally posted by an0n

It's not that brown malty-wheaty-chocolate-jewish crap is it? I forget the name.

*goes to search the forums for that thread*

EDIT: Well it was in an Easter thread. Easter - Religion - Judaism. Meh:

(http://virtual.finland.fi/finfo/images/easter3.jpg)

?

What the heck is that!? :wtf:

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Originally posted by Thunder
They're getting warmer....

;7

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Originally posted by Stealth

i know it, but i'm not going to spoil it for everyone :D

You'd better not. :p {Parent voice}...Or else!{/Parent voice}

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Originally posted by Goober5000
A Bugle (as in the snack)?

Thunder, do you find this ironic, too? :D
Title: The Doomsday Machine
Post by: Knight Templar on October 17, 2002, 06:30:49 pm: ok, now it has to be a joint, cuz you guys sound liek you are high
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Post by: Fineus on October 18, 2002, 02:02:10 am: Quote
Originally posted by Sandwich
Thunder, do you find this ironic, too? :D

Must. Not. Comment. About. How. Close...
Title: The Doomsday Machine
Post by: delta_7890 on October 18, 2002, 05:43:23 am: Quote
Originally posted by Thunder

Must. Not. Comment. About. How. Close...

That was a bit of a contradiction...^^;;
Title: The Doomsday Machine
Post by: Sandwich on October 18, 2002, 06:14:13 am: Quote
Originally posted by Thunder

Must. Not. Comment. About. How. Close...

:lol:
Title: SHape or texture???
Post by: Star Dragon on October 18, 2002, 09:25:35 am: Shape is easy, creator took a dump one day and as he/she/it flushed they said "Holy Sh*T, a Doomsday Machine... One that will make them crap their pants!" ;)

As for texture... Probably raw MJ before they rolled and smoked it :lol:

Was that close?
Title: Re: SHape or texture???
Post by: Sandwich on October 18, 2002, 11:15:35 am: Quote
Originally posted by Star Dragon
Shape is easy, creator took a dump one day and as he/she/it flushed they said "Holy Sh*T, a Doomsday Machine... One that will make them crap their pants!" ;)

As for texture... Probably raw MJ before they rolled and smoked it :lol:

Was that close?

:lol: Not quite..... ;)
Title: The Doomsday Machine
Post by: Goober5000 on October 18, 2002, 01:19:25 pm: Quote
Goober5000: A Bugle (as in the snack)?

Sandwich: Thunder, do you find this ironic, too? :D

Thunder: Must. Not. Comment. About. How. Close...

Eh? How is it ironic? *looks around* :nervous: I must be on to something...

Is it the actual bugle, the musical instrument? Is it a musical instrument of any kind? Is it a snack food of any kind?

Or are we only allowed yes or no questions? :lol:
Title: The Doomsday Machine
Post by: Stryke 9 on October 18, 2002, 01:28:47 pm: Some really bad acid.
Title: The Doomsday Machine
Post by: Sandwich on October 18, 2002, 04:25:29 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Goober5000
Is it the actual bugle, the musical instrument? Is it a musical instrument of any kind? Is it a snack food of any kind?

Or are we only allowed yes or no questions? :lol:

No, yes, no, and no. :D
Title: The Doomsday Machine
Post by: Stryke 9 on October 18, 2002, 04:27:34 pm: A flute that's taken a long trip through someone's digestive system. Or a horn, in which case this thread is quickly going to turn to such topics as fists and gerbils...
Title: The Doomsday Machine
Post by: Sandwich on October 19, 2002, 07:41:51 am: Quote
Originally posted by Stryke 9
Or a horn, in which case this thread is quickly going to turn to such topics as fists and gerbils...

Hmmmmm... Thunder, what do you say? Does this man get a cookie? ;)
Title: Horn?
Post by: Star Dragon on October 19, 2002, 09:25:52 am: "RICOLLA!" - that horn?

how about French Horn...

Horn of Valhalla?

Horn dog

Horny Toad

"Quick! Any Elorran's we can ask? After all THEY built the damn things..."
Title: The Doomsday Machine
Post by: Goober5000 on October 19, 2002, 01:42:41 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Sandwich
It started out as a picture - a photograph - of something that Corsair would have a better chance of identifying than the rest of you.

And it seems to be a horn...

Or possibly a trumpet?

A long, thin trumpet...

Trouble is, I don't know the names of any Jewish long thin horns or trumpets. ;)

The trumpet that blew down the walls of Jericho! (Or something...:D)

Do we get to see the original picture if someone gets it right?
Title: The Doomsday Machine
Post by: Sandwich on October 20, 2002, 04:35:44 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Goober5000
The trumpet that blew down the walls of Jericho! (Or something...:D)

Do we get to see the original picture if someone gets it right?

You get a cookie. :D It's not the same "model", as this one comes from some animal down in South Africa, but yes, it's called a shofar. :)

I've attached the original picture.
Title: The Doomsday Machine
Post by: Goober5000 on October 20, 2002, 04:40:17 pm: W00T! Two cookies in two days! I always knew that picture dictionary in the back of my KJV Bible would come in handy... :D

Thanks for the picture. And thanks for a most interesting puzzle over the past several days. :) Much better than the brain teaser thread. ;)
Title: The Doomsday Machine
Post by: Sandwich on October 20, 2002, 04:51:34 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Goober5000
W00T! Two cookies in two days! I always knew that picture dictionary in the back of my KJV Bible would come in handy... :D

Thanks for the picture. And thanks for a most interesting puzzle over the past several days. :) Much better than the brain teaser thread. ;)

Hehehe - you're welcome. ;)
Title: The Doomsday Machine
Post by: JC Denton on October 21, 2002, 12:54:53 am: *looks at Sandwich's attachment*

Well, I think we can safely assume where the writers got the idea for the original Doomsday Machine...