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Modding, Mission Design, and Coding => The Modding Workshop => Topic started by: Solatar on October 16, 2002, 07:34:50 pm
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We are having a little argument corvettes in the T-V War. The problem is, StarGunner thinks they aren't canon, but me, Thor, and a host of other people believe they are. So, what do you guys think? Corvettes, or no? Yay or nay.
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corvette rymes with morvette!
tee hee :drevil:
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What the hell does that have to do with anything?
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Corvettes in the FS universe, I think, were conceived cause of the Shivan impact in the GWar. Placing heavy weaponry on a small ship is basicly what a corvette is. For the Sobek entry and I quote:
"Design of the corvette class GVCv Sobek began in the dark days after the destruction of Vasuda Prime by the Shivans in the Great War. The Vasudan navy wanted a vessel that could single-handedly counter powerful Shivan cruisers and provide critical support to Vasudan destroyers in battles against Shivan capital ships."
This means that Corvettes were thought of for the FIRST time to counter the Shivan cruisers. And to support the Typhons and the later Hatshepsuts.
I dont think that the GTA or PVN had the capabilty to make corvettes in the T-V war, but I'm sure they didnt fully exclude the idea.
Also the GTA and PVN didnt have beam cannons so all a corvette would have would be Heavy and Standerd turrets, not much difference from the Levis and Atens, cept corvs have more turrets and a stronger hull. You could make a Heavy Cruiser.
I'd stick with cruisers and or medium sized carriers to replace corvette type ships.
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First of all, the cap ship weapons are slightly improved for the T-V War Project. They are much stronger, so in theory a corvette could be built with more/stronger weapons. Also, that just say that the corvette GTCv Sobek was designed yada yada yada. It DOES NOT say that corvettes where designed exclusively after the war.
Possible idea, how about a GTHc or GTCh? stands for Galactic Terran Heavy Cruiser? Would that please everybody?
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If corvettes were around pre GWar, why werent they seen in Fs1. Anythings better than a Aten or sometimes a Levi\Fenris.
If corvs can handle powerful shiv cruisers than they would have no prob agaisnt multiple levis. So why didnt the PVN or whatever make corvs to take care of the GTA in the TV war? We dont see any corvs in FS1.
And why would the GTA\PVN have stronger weaps before the GWar but have weak ones when the Shivs arrived?
G lactic T erran H eavy C ruiser *******
Your call, your camp.
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I don't think that the GTHC would be needed. The Leviathan is a Heavy Cruiser and its still GTC. GTC is a broad definition to a wide variety of Cruiser classes. I wouldn't mind seeing some older strike cruisers and heavy cruisers. The Leviathan and Fenris were cutting edge....in the T-V War project, I would expect to see more primitive examples....and to show the Fenris/Leviathan in their prime. Before shields, flak and beams...by FS1 I think the Cruisers had sort of been dwarfed by the massive Orions and Typhon destroyers...which were seemingly larger than anything before. Thats my impression...and that the Typhon was a complete surprise departure for the Vasudan navy which was probably based around smaller and more mobile craft (judging from the assault transports and whatnot). Vasudans always had an edge in engines....Terrans in armor and weapon power.
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heres what i think. i think the corvett was being planned before the shivans showed but never had the tech until fs2, so maybe you could just hint on the making of a corvett. then have one based on the pre shivan era and it easly gets destroyed by a cruiser or a destroyer. but who knows i don't make the campain so its up to you if you think my idea is good
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Go the Heavy Cruisers - it can look, act and smell like a corvette if you want, but call it a hevy cruiser. Corvettes are just too FS2 for a prequel.
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You can have a corvette in the campaign but make it old and infective. It it's cheaper and more effective to just build two fenris cruisers than a single corvette then Command would have stopped production. You`ve then got 14 years for them all to get wiped out during the war.
The dreadful performance of the first corvettes would be a reason why command treats the new corvettes as almost a new class cause in terms of firepower it is.
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DOOH ..this is nonsend Corvette is a class of ships .. but in real Navies corvette are weaker ships ever with the antisub role..is weaker than destroyer..so FS2 corvette where powerfull only because where designed to use the new armament beam weapons ..so is ok TW corvette
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In the Navy (you can sale the seven seas) cruisers are better than destroyers arn't they? So your argument dosn't stand. Don't have corvettes, just use several cruiser types says me!
My mod has 7 core warship classes:thepimp:
just thought I'd mention that...;7
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Originally posted by karajorma
You can have a corvette in the campaign but make it old and infective. It it's cheaper and more effective to just build two fenris cruisers than a single corvette then Command would have stopped production. You`ve then got 14 years for them all to get wiped out during the war.
The dreadful performance of the first corvettes would be a reason why command treats the new corvettes as almost a new class cause in terms of firepower it is.
That is exactly what is in the tech description for the GTCv Repulse says. They were to expensive, and not effective enough. They were all retired in 2335. The last one went down in Operation Thresher.
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Originally posted by Hades
That is exactly what is in the tech description for the GTCv Repulse says. They were to expensive, and not effective enough. They were all retired in 2335. The last one went down in Operation Thresher.
I know that but that can't be true! the Corvette like stated in one post was only made after the Beam Cannon came to the GTVA so the Corvette was made to use this new weapon without it the Corvette class would not be possible, and I never said the Corvette was not Cannon it is but the mod is not because of the time frame is not right......think about what I half to say.
And to back up the other things I said about it here is a few words from the TBL of the corvette class ("new" era of ship design.)
I rest me cace.
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The techroom (or FSBible) states that the Lev/Fenris was the ONLY GTA Great War cruiser, BTW. (partly why I classed my Fenris inspired ship as a 'cutter')
As for corvettes...I think a carrier / light destroyer class is more appropriate - a 'mid-range' type ship, preceeding the Orion (and lighter armed, etc). IIRC, the :V: FS bible describes the Orion as a "destroyer/carrier", which semi-implies some sort carrier class was used before the heavier and more powerful Orion came about. I'd say the only reason that a ship wouldn;t be in FS1, but in the Great War, would be if it was superceded and eventually became wiped ouyt (or relagated to the fringe systems). I think a carrier superceded by the Orion fits that description, butn a corvette doesn't.
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Originally posted by StarGunner
I know that but that can't be true! the Corvette like stated in one post was only made after the Beam Cannon came to the GTVA... [Snip]
The current corvettes were only designed after beam cannon was invented. This doesn`t mean that there weren`t any before that time that were later retired.
Following your logic you could also argue that the british and american navys never had corvettes either in the FS2 universe since they would have had corvettes in the 20th century and beam cannons hadn`t been invented yet in that time period either.
The corvettes in FS2 are a whole generation away from any that would have existed in FS1 and it is quite possible that the GTVA could refer to them as a whole new class in the same way that the existance of naval corvettes doesn`t prevent them from being a whole new class.
You have to remember that if the corvette class was proved to be rubbish in the T/V war the GTVA waited over 30 years before trying again. That's time for almost all the officers in the GTVA who fought in the war and remember the old corvette to have been replaced. For those who follow the corvette is a radical new class that hasn`t been seen before cause the last corvette was probably destroyed/mothballed before they were even alive.
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I think that if the GTVA had them in the GW, we would have seen them. I can understand it being a failed experiment with the tech level they had, but if there was a corvette during the GW, or before, that's about all it should be. A failed experiment.
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Originally posted by IceFire
I don't think that the GTHC would be needed. The Leviathan is a Heavy Cruiser and its still GTC. GTC is a broad definition to a wide variety of Cruiser classes. I wouldn't mind seeing some older strike cruisers and heavy cruisers. The Leviathan and Fenris were cutting edge....in the T-V War project, I would expect to see more primitive examples....and to show the Fenris/Leviathan in their prime. Before shields, flak and beams...by FS1 I think the Cruisers had sort of been dwarfed by the massive Orions and Typhon destroyers...which were seemingly larger than anything before. Thats my impression...and that the Typhon was a complete surprise departure for the Vasudan navy which was probably based around smaller and more mobile craft (judging from the assault transports and whatnot). Vasudans always had an edge in engines....Terrans in armor and weapon power.
Well, you'll see my take on Dark's Damocles, which is a battlecruiser - bigger than a Fenris, but still quite far from a Deimos.
Originally posted by aldo_14
The techroom (or FSBible) states that the Lev/Fenris was the ONLY GTA Great War cruiser, BTW. (partly why I classed my Fenris inspired ship as a 'cutter')
That's pretty boring, really. Would you really want to have a campaign that features one whole capship design, two if you include the Aten?
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Originally posted by Shrike
That's pretty boring, really. Would you really want to have a campaign that features one whole capship design, two if you include the Aten?
I'm not suggesting having the Fenris, etc as the only capship design (besides which, I'm sure the Vasudans had more varieties of cruiser anyway) - just the only cruiser class craft.
Anyway, capship battles were seemingly less important in the T-V war.... as losing a destroyer was seen as a massive blow to either side, and cruisers were seen as major offensive vessels (as oppossed to their cannon fodder status in FS2)
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Originally posted by aldo_14
The techroom (or FSBible) states that the Lev/Fenris was the ONLY GTA Great War cruiser, BTW. (partly why I classed my Fenris inspired ship as a 'cutter')
I think what its saying is that the Levi\Fenris was the only cruiser in OPERATION at the time of the GREAT WAR. Its says Great War, not the TV war.
I would myself, would have a FRIGATE as a TV war corvette like ship. Heres a quote from a dictionar\thesaures prog I have.
"Noun frigate
1. A medium size square-rigged warship of the 18th and 19th centuries
2. A United States warship larger than a destroyer and smaller than a cruiser"
I know it doesnt really apply to Fs type ships, but in the defination, it says that a frigate is smaller than a dest but larger than a cruiser. Isnt that basicly what a Corvette is...sort of?
GTFg ****** would be the short name thing.
The reason that we dont see them in Fs1 is cause they were around PRE TV-WAR era. They were like what the levi is in Fs2, old but they still have a presence in battle. But there not THAT old, that the GTA would stop building them though. They were like the Athena situation, they were "mothballed" by the Vasudans, cause the GTA didnt use them wisly or something.
This Frig would be a little fastER than a Levi\fenris, but its hull was crappy for the type of situations it would be in constently. Its weapons, would be a efficient combination of heavy, light and standerd turrets.
Idont see any probs with making a Frig, cause I cant see any conflicts at the moment.
I'd also make a light\medium carrier type ship. It can deliver fighters in a battle. Its hull would be heavy and its guns\turrets would be MOSTLY for defensive reasons and for providing support. But their wouldnt be alot of turrets on it. This light carrier would enter a battle, kick out its fighters\bombers, than move to the EDGE of the battle area. The carrier would be somewhat fast, and have a realitivly sleak design, not like the Diemos, but consistent with GTA cap ships.
The orion would come along to combine Destroyer capibiltys (sort of. I dont consider the Terran Heavy Tur to be a destroying type weapon) with that of the light carrier.
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let me clear up the definition of ship classes. We have the Fenris class cruiser, the Orion class destroyer, etc.. Not the corvette class, or destroyer class. Exception-They are called destroyer class, and cruiser class, etc.. but only when the warship is unknown.
StarGunner, I have pressed this over and over again. And I'm still waiting, give me one GOOD reason why there were no corvettes in the T-V War. Also, maybe there weren't any in the T-V War. But we are working some on the Unification War also. Why can't we have corvettes in the Unification War? Corvettes carry the NEW capital ship turret. Until then, they had been using slightly modified ML-16's and torpedos ( Dumbed down Fusion Mortars will be in the campaign ). Then the capital ship turret ( Terran Turret, Terran Huge Turret, and Terran Turret#Weak) came out. The GTA made corvettes for the same reason the GTVA did almost fifty years later. To have a ship worth carrying the new, powerful weaponry.
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I'd prefer just using the names cruiser and destroyer, but I don't see any reason you shouldn't see corvettes or frigates in fs1.
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StarGunner, I have pressed this over and over again. And I'm still waiting, give me one GOOD reason why there were no corvettes in the T-V War. Also, maybe there weren't any in the T-V War. But we are working some on the Unification War also. Why can't we have corvettes in the Unification War? Corvettes carry the NEW capital ship turret. Until then, they had been using slightly modified ML-16's and torpedos ( Dumbed down Fusion Mortars will be in the campaign ). Then the capital ship turret ( Terran Turret, Terran Huge Turret, and Terran Turret#Weak) came out. The GTA made corvettes for the same reason the GTVA did almost fifty years later. To have a ship worth carrying the new, powerful weaponry.
You better have a good reason for why they ended production of the corvettes by FS1, though. :p (and that all existing ones were destroyed or decommisioned)
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I have a good reason. And it kind of melds with some of you guys'. Here goes.
The GTA mounted powerful turrets on the new Repulse corvette. The corvette was cheap to manufacture, and could carry many turrets. The turret armor was strong, but the rest of the ship was not very powerful. The GTA though that speed would help it win battles. Once they met the Vasudans, and fought with them, they changed their minds. The Vasudan Aten could outrun it, and its two main guns would be able to destroy the Repulse. After a while, the Repulse corvettes were all destroyed. The last few being destroyed in the Vega Engagement.
Instead of attempting another corvette, and risking all that they had. They decided to upgrade the almost impervious Fenris. Adding turrets, and armor. The Leviathan was very expensive, but it was a much better defenseive ship than the Fenris.
So, the GTC Leviathan replaced the GTCv Repulse, which had been in service since th middle of the last Unification War.
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Originally posted by quadinhonic_II
I think what its saying is that the Levi\Fenris was the only cruiser in OPERATION at the time of the GREAT WAR. Its says Great War, not the TV war.
From tbl entry (FS2)
XSTR("The GTC Fenris class is the aging stalwart among the Alliance's warships. Before the Great War, the Fenris was Terran Command's only class of cruisers. During the war, Terran Command decided to build a second line of cruisers, the Leviathans, to free the Fenris from escort and guard duties. Fenris cruisers have fought in virtually every theatre of operation. These fast, versatile cruisers pack enough punch in their 260-meter-long hulls to go toe-to-toe with any enemy cruiser. The Fenris's speed and maneuverability make it a good choice for strike missions.", 3045)
I think 'Great War' should read 'T-V War' or such, based on the description. Also, the fact that the Leviathan was designed when the GTA realised the war was going to last longer than a few months, suggests that the Fenris (effectively it's ancestor) must have been in service from the start of the war.
Oh, and I'd say that a corvette is improbable for the T-V war simply because it's a fairly modern ship design (FS2 era)... it's main purpose seemingly to take on the stronger Shivan vessels (as far as the GTVA is concerned. The Shivan classes are really only based on apparent purpose and size). There's no good reason that the GTVA would have a ship larger than a Fenris, yet less battle-effective. Unless it carried fighters, which would make it, IMO a light carrier type craft.
Oh, and BTW - Hades, from what I read of the tech descriptions / FSrefbible, the Leviathan was conceived very early on in the war, probably after only a few months when no apparent breakthrough was immenent.
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Yes, the Leviathan was convieved very early in the war, but not the Unification War. The GTCv Repulse was created before/during the Unification War. So, I've decided that by the time the T-V War started, these were out of service.
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I wouldn't go overboard on the capships, personally. The original T-V war didn't focus too much on capship action it seemed. Also, there's other designations that you can use besides corvette.
Carrack, sloop, cutter, gunship..... Try 'em.
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or even *gasp* cruiser! yes, another cruiser!
or Gunship liek Shriky said, Gunships are cool. How bout' something more exotic like Slaveship .. ? ;)
Explorer, Patrol Ship, Assualt Gunboat, trying maybe going for freighter or Fenris size, but lots of smallish guns, maybe a Torp launcher as a main weapon.
Maybe if you made an already aging ship that is bigger than the fenris (say 500 m?) but looks nothing liek it (we don't need a third fenris ship..) with slightly more, but older weapons, and through the camp it gets phased out by the fenris or something.
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Slaveship? :wtf:
Anyhow, putting in non-cruiser designs isn't too weird, they can just be old. After all, how many capships did you really see in FS1? I don't remember very many. And if there was say a 10:1 ratio of Fenrises to other ships.....
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Slaveship? :wtf:
t'was a joke.. well possibly, like Terrans take Vasudan Slaves or vice-versa.
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Slave ships are out of the question. Even if you're not joking, they are non-negotiable.
Also, here is the deal, in case you don't know. We have a model. In the Stripped down release it is the GTC Repulse. We are trying to decide whether to make it a corvette, or leave it as a cruiser. We already have a cutter, but I've made it into a cruiser. We'e also got enough Terran installations to last. We have a node blockade, the GTI Achilles ( Seen in the pics ) and the Arcadia.
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Slave ships are out of the question. Even if you're not joking, they are non-negotiable.
:p :p :p
hmmm... how's bout' a Artillery Support Ship, or a Cruise Missle Frigate (GTFg Ranger) :D
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I was already thinking about artillary ships. GTAc. That might work. Does anybody else want them? And frigates, will work. I've devided to stop some fighting, and maybe name my "corvette' the Leo battlecruiser. GTBC Leo. I have a perfect frigate model to use.
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Question:
Will you have Mass Driver/Shell launchers in early TV war missions? I think this would be logical (especially for things such as the Artillery) because they could cause a lot of damage, are plausible for that era, and could be the Pre plasma turrets possibly.
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Considering the fact that the actual concept of a Corvette class ship (regardless of it's actual meaning at any point in time) predates the present day by over 100 years, I see no reason why there couldn't be Corvette class ships in the FS1 and TV war eras. As to why they weren't seen in the canon FS1 campaigns, there are many possible reasons. (It's not like every single ship in the entire universe was involved in that war, much less happen to be where one particular pilot was.) One in particular that strikes me as logical is that, at that time, the last Corvette class was designed during or before the TV war and had been relagated to relatively safe duties while Command put the newer and more powerful ships at the head of the battle. It's also possible, if the design was so old, that there wouldn't be very many ships of that type left and they might even have been retired before the time of the Great War. As to a Corvette's role in the TV war, that would be up to the MODders to decide. It would certainly be different from a modern FS2 Corvette due to the different technologies available. I have seen nothing that says the Corvette ship type was designed to fight the Shivans using beam weapons. Only info saying that certain ship classes were built for that purpose.
Whether anyone working on the TV War MOD decides to use a Corvette class is an entirely different matter and is (of course) up to them. But I do think it's possible without any real problems.
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Originally posted by EdrickV
Considering the fact that the actual concept of a Corvette class ship (regardless of it's actual meaning at any point in time) predates the present day by over 100 years, I see no reason why there couldn't be Corvette class ships in the FS1 and TV war eras. As to why they weren't seen in the canon FS1 campaigns, there are many possible reasons. (It's not like every single ship in the entire universe was involved in that war, much less happen to be where one particular pilot was.) One in particular that strikes me as logical is that, at that time, the last Corvette class was designed during or before the TV war and had been relagated to relatively safe duties while Command put the newer and more powerful ships at the head of the battle. It's also possible, if the design was so old, that there wouldn't be very many ships of that type left and they might even have been retired before the time of the Great War. As to a Corvette's role in the TV war, that would be up to the MODders to decide. It would certainly be different from a modern FS2 Corvette due to the different technologies available. I have seen nothing that says the Corvette ship type was designed to fight the Shivans using beam weapons. Only info saying that certain ship classes were built for that purpose.
Whether anyone working on the TV War MOD decides to use a Corvette class is an entirely different matter and is (of course) up to them. But I do think it's possible without any real problems.
I don't mean to be blunt but the Corvette is too new a consept for the T-V War and it would be siliy to use ti as such......... I do not have a prob with the ship it's self but with the Class name. I think it would be cool to have somthing like it, like a Assoult Class of ship. You could then leave the ship the size it is but add a fighter bay and make it so it only can house one fighter wing, I think that would be more plosible.
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Originally posted by StarGunner
I don't mean to be blunt but the Corvette is too new a consept for the T-V War and it would be siliy to use ti as such......... I do not have a prob with the ship it's self but with the Class name.
Yeah of course it's a new consept. It's not like they didn`t have corvettes in the 1600's. It's not like the corvettes of later generations couldn`t claim to be a new kind of ship yet still retain that name.
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Originally posted by StarGunner
I don't mean to be blunt but the Corvette is too new a consept for the T-V War and it would be siliy to use ti as such......... I do not have a prob with the ship it's self but with the Class name.
Main Entry: cor·vette
Pronunciation: kor-'vet
Function: noun
Etymology: French, from Middle French, probably from Middle Dutch corf, a kind of ship, literally, basket —more at CORF
Date: 1636
1 : a warship ranking in the old sailing navies next below a frigate
2 : a highly maneuverable armed escort ship that is smaller than a destroyer
The Corvette class dates back to 1636. I wouldn't call that new, particularly for a game set in the future.
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Also, adding a fighterbay isn't that easy. You need path data and ther things I can't do.
I don't understand why a ship class from the 1600's can't be around near the year 2300. I am taking into account everyone's suggestions. And I think we will make Frigate ( GTFg ) the Artillary cruiser ( GTAs ) the torpedo cruiser ( GTTs ) and maybe some devoted anti-fighter stuff for the Vasudans.
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Originally posted by Hades
Also, adding a fighterbay isn't that easy. You need path data and ther things I can't do.
I don't understand why a ship class from the 1600's can't be around near the year 2300. I am taking into account everyone's suggestions. And I think we will make Frigate ( GTFg ) the Artillary cruiser ( GTAs ) the torpedo cruiser ( GTTs ) and maybe some devoted anti-fighter stuff for the Vasudans.
FYI, GTA and GTT are already used. (Awacs and Transports respectively.) :)
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FYI, I know that. I ain't stupid. didn't use GTA, or GTT. I used GTTs ( Galactic Terran Torpedo Ship ) and GTAs ( Galactic Terran Artillary Ship ). But maybe I'll just make them both GTC, because they are both cruisers.
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But being the proponent of canon, someone has pointed out that the Fenris was the ONLY cruiser untill the leviathin, then just the two of them. We need other names. Personally, I like Gunship (GTGs) or Carrack (GTCk?) the best.,
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GTTs and GTAr didn't sound that bad
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Actually, the one I like best is the GTFg. Frigate. Instead of corvettes, I have made frigates. And for heavy ships, I have GTBC. For some reason GTBC looks better than GTBc.
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also fits the rule one word, small letter, ie: Fg = Frigate
Two words, Caps, ie: SC = Science Cruiser
Of course, peole will now swoop in and say Frigates didn't exist either:rolleyes:
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Well if they say that, then I'll say this. **** happens. At least we don't have people telling us that heavy fighters weren't invented until the Great War. As we didn't see any until then, following everyone else, if we didn't see it, then it didn't exist.
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which is just bs.;)
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
GTTs and GTAr didn't sound that bad
GTTs could be confused with the plural of GTT. It confused me earlier. :)
Edit: Come to think of it, to be consistant it should be GTTS I think. Though I don't know of any other classes that would have ship at the end that use an S or s.
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One word has a capital and lowercase. I.E-GTCv Corvette
Two words have two uppercase. I.E-GTSC. Science Cruiser.
So my designations would be GTTS, and GTAS.
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i think the T-V war should have some smaller "picket" or Gunships. Like maybe 100 -150 meters long with a crapload of lasers/guns or whatever.
Like whatever you are using for your main "peon" weapon (i.e. Subach for FS2), have like 10 turrets of those on it or something to that effect, then like two bigger guns for dealing with small cruisers and a missle launcher or two.
IMO Freespace Capships blew major ass because you see this bigg ass Orion with uh... 16 guns..? The way i figured, it should have ML-16's or avengers all along the Starboard and Port bows and a few more capship guns. It should at least have 35 turrets total.. with 16 .. 3 fenris's could waste it. Pathetic.
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I agree. Cap ship weaponry should have been better.
Anti-fighter pulses and missiles, and anti-capship pulses and missiles. Unfortunately almost all original cap ship weapons tried to be both, failing in both.
Alright, there is difference between Terran Turret and Terran Huge Turret... but normal version was lacking in fire rate and projectile speed and huge was lacking in range and damage.
But let's change subject... Since corvettes were designed between the two Great Wars, it is best to create new ship types. See Babylon 5 Olympus class corvette, you could use similar design for gunboat or something like this. Enough turrets in a small vessel can be very dangerous to unshielded fighters. :nod:
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You ever tried going up against a Great War, fully armed Fenris in an unshielded Anubis? It's not fun! :shaking:
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Its even harder with teh Fenris armed with AAA Turrets. Something new I made, they are fast firing, high velocity, but can't do jack against a capship. Anyway, they have both the "figher+" and "bomber+" flags, so they don't target capital ships very much.
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The T-V war is set in Freespace universe in which the Shivans DIDNT arrive. What would happen in that case is for the campaign author to decide. I don't see why after 14 years of war one would decide NOT to build a strong escort/fire support ship - a corvette.
If you look at WW2 - you had torpedo boats, destroyers, frigates, cruisers(light/heavy), battleships(light/heavy), carriers(light/heavy/support), submarines, etc... - note that the light/heavy versions were _MUCH different, practicly a different class.
ABOUT THE TURRETS - I know, that's why I made my own Main gun weapons
(Light, Medium and Heavy Ion Cannon, Fury MK IV, Judgment Day and Deliberator missiles) - for capships
(Vulcan, Vindicator, LIFC, - fighter guns
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Originally posted by TrashMan
The T-V war is set in Freespace universe in which the Shivans DIDNT arrive
What the hell are you talking about? The TVWP is set in, of all places, the Terran-Vasudan War. The demo will take place in the Unification War. All of this occures before the Shivans even arrive, but they do arrive.
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I really want to play with the mod now:(
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I know, and I want at least a little feedback. I keep having to make the thing bigger and better just so it will be worth the wait.
I haven't gotten so much as an e-mail from Gamespy. And our hosting application is three months old.
If we don't get this damn thing up soon, everybody will move on to other things.
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Well, know for a fact that the ITHOV space is up. let's try to FTP it up again.
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Go with Frigate - GTFg. I like it the best. :nod:
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Originally posted by TrashMan
I don't see why after 14 years of war one would decide NOT to build a strong escort/fire support ship - a corvette.
No, a LEVIATHAN! Gahhh!
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Yes, we have the Leviathan. I am using the retextured one from Pegasus V. I also darkened the maps to make it look a little better.
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Hey is Peg back from his Honeymoon yet?
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Originally posted by Hades
I haven't gotten so much as an e-mail from Gamespy. And our hosting application is three months old.
Hey, at least YOU guys have a forum.
*looks around* Not that you use it or anything...
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Technically, shouldn't this thread be moved?
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Actually, we do use our forum. But it isn't like anybody visits it. I posted here because I wanted some opinions. If I did it in the TVWP forum, I might have three posts b now.