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Modding, Mission Design, and Coding => The Modding Workshop => Topic started by: tomcat on October 22, 2002, 03:40:40 am
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(http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/babylon/Screens_Misc/Screens_Tomcat/h3dv.gif)
this is my first ship for FS2 and not for B5 TBP total conversion. Is more like a test for me. 1100 p 7defense turrest, 6 main battery turrets, 2 forward fire only beams, 1 slasher beam, 3 missile launchers, 2 hangars.
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Nice work. Although you have to work on making your ships uglier if you want them to fit right into the FS2 universe.
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Silence! Besides, it's not exactly pretty. Just functional.
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you plan to leave the barreled turrets the way they are? You probably know that, but they must point vertically, the top turrets must be facing the front of the ship, and the turrets that are upsidedown must face the back of the ship, otherwise they'll rotate the wrong way.
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thanx Venom..:) but this is first for FS2 universe not FS2 game:) ..either way the ship is in building..the turets rotation will be done prior to conversion:)
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Dare I ask for a more 'traditional' pic?
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no Ryx ...it would be pointless until it has a "texture" ..right now is a WIP..i could make a render of it ..
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(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/reciprocity/seal.gif)
Looks B5 influenced, unsurprisingly :)
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[grizzled veteran voice] Nice ship.... [/grizzled veteran voice]
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Originally posted by aldo_14
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/reciprocity/seal.gif)
Looks B5 influenced, unsurprisingly :)
That's what I was thinking. Though I do like TBP ships. The turrets are big:p
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Originally posted by Hades
That's what I was thinking. Though I do like TBP ships. The turrets are big:p
I like big WW2 ship-like turrets :nod:
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i don't see the B5 resemblance anywhere ..Venom u are right ..I wanted WW2 batle ship look almost...and some remote resamblance with the SULACO :)
I was sick of those stupid FS2 rectangular turrets..a little bit more polygons (if I remeber well some 30-32 p, compared with 18 rectangular ones) ..but way better looking
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I don't see a B5 influence. I see an anime influence, perhaps. That's excellent, tomcat.
Don't hesitate to show it untextured though. I show all my meshes naked, since I can't texture to save my life (yet)
Can't wait to see it.
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1100 turrets? How do you get so many to work? (Yes I know it's a stupid question, but I HAVE to ask!)
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Originally posted by TrashMan
1100 turrets? How do you get so many to work? (Yes I know it's a stupid question, but I HAVE to ask!)
I think that's 1100p as in 1100 POLYGONS.
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Originally posted by tomcat
i don't see the B5 resemblance anywhere
I just thought the frontal hexagonal cross section reminded me a bit of the Nova(?) and the rear fin a bit of that ickle EA cruiser (Hyperion)
Just a bit thoug...it really is rather luverly. ALthough I'd like to see an isometric, untextured (but lit so you can see the polys better) view :)
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Originally posted by tomcat
...I wanted WW2 batle ship look almost...and some remote resamblance with the SULACO :)...
yeah, looks a lot like the sullaco from the side, but as I tend to use that design too (not obvious in my FS2 ships, save for the raiden maybe ), I didn't really thought about it :p
And I too am bored of the ugly box rurrets, that's why I made those big turrets for my tau and NGTA capships :) ( lots of polys, but worth it ).
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well since I am at work and I don't have TS here and more important since is not a TBP mesh is free to d/l ..but right now is only Lod0 and a wip ..so here it is harraser (http://www.soft4net.ro/~phoratiu/detail0.rar)
heh..but there is no close resemblance with Nova:) and Hyperion engines where complectly different...the closest that whould be is The Warlock..hmm i forgot that is not public:nervous:
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Originally posted by tomcat
well since I am at work and I don't have TS here ....
I figured no one wanted to wait (and I know I didn't) so I grabbed the object and rendered it in Lightwave.
(http://home.nc.rr.com/mikhael/tomcat-Harasser-01.jpg)
(http://home.nc.rr.com/mikhael/tomcat-Harasser-02.jpg)
(http://home.nc.rr.com/mikhael/tomcat-Harasser-03.jpg)
(http://home.nc.rr.com/mikhael/tomcat-Harasser-04.jpg)
(http://home.nc.rr.com/mikhael/tomcat-Harasser-05.jpg)
(http://home.nc.rr.com/mikhael/tomcat-Harasser-06.jpg)
(http://home.nc.rr.com/mikhael/tomcat-Harasser-07.jpg)
Sweet jesus, I may never model again. Damn good work Tomcat.
BTW: you've got a pair of degenerate polys on the starboard side toward the aft end. I've cleared it up in the LWO of the ship. If you'd like I can convert back to COB and send it to you.
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thanx M...
plese tell me what polygons are you talking about..is not a finish mesh you know and I like to correct it my self:)`
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:eek::eek2:
that thing is AMAZINGG!, dont suppose i could borrow for the NW Film project?? Thats if wEvil would want to use it ...
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:eek2:
That's enough to say what I think of Horatiu's model...
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and Fury you know all my models :D
is a free mesh..i would like to texture it .. but if someone else will no problem. is a Open Subject
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Originally posted by tomcat
thanx M...
plese tell me what polygons are you talking about..is not a finish mesh you know and I like to correct it my self:)`
Correction. Its Port side. I guess that's a hangar where the lower wing is attached. On the port side of the hangar, there's three polys going across. Its either in the forward segment or the aft, one, but I'm not sure which. There's a point halfway along one of the segments. That point is part of only two polygons. One of the polys that point is part of is completely linear--and in fact is colinear with the edge of the other poly.
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Originally posted by mikhael
(http://home.nc.rr.com/mikhael/tomcat-Harasser-01.jpg)
(http://home.nc.rr.com/mikhael/tomcat-Harasser-03.jpg)
(http://home.nc.rr.com/mikhael/tomcat-Harasser-07.jpg)
MUST. GIVE. MODEL. CAMO. TEXTURES. !!!!!!
Awesome model, Tomcat! The side things look like huge screwdrivers, but you should be able to avoid that resembelance with a decent texture job. :yes: :yes:
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Damn they do look like screw drivers:)
Ok M. u should say from begining 3 coliniar vertex:)
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Originally posted by Sandwich
MUST. GIVE. MODEL. CAMO. TEXTURES. !!!!!!
I wonder if I couldn't make it look camo by changing the procedural on that...
BACK TO THE SECRET LAB!
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Well, the wepon is not so good, as you clearly said that it haves 19 turrets in total, and the main weapons that are the beams, like the terran slashers, then i can go and attack it from the rear and boom, i destroy the ship without any problem. Also with a destroyer.
But is a cool model, i like the desing. Nice:D
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hmm ..destructive little bastard:)
well is a destroyer not HUGE ship...the main beam a very powerfull but fire only in a small arc the rest of cover is provided by main pulse baterries ( the swarm make them fire a rapid salvo in short time) and the slasher will have a 360 degree fire arc..is the wing lower rounder cylinder.. plus the 2 hangars for fighter...
If you like the ship i can make a true battle ship ..:) but i suppose a figher will be next
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just adding a rating :p
[Edit] hmmm didnt seem to wrok .... oh well[/edit]
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simply awesome! :eek2:
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May I suggest you team up with Venom and two of you start a Starblazers mod or Captain Harlock? Along with the person who did the Yamato (forgot, was it you?)...
Nice ship! :yes:
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well is a destroyer not HUGE ship...the main beam a very powerfull but fire only in a small arc the rest of cover is provided by main pulse baterries ( the swarm make them fire a rapid salvo in short time) and the slasher will have a 360 degree fire arc..is the wing lower rounder cylinder.. plus the 2 hangars for fighter...
I see :D
Hey, is great that did a cool model, in the first shoot.
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Great model :yes: love it.
but imo, it's not really FS, like i tihnk said above, maybe Nodewar or something... it's probably just me
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Tom cat, great work!
As for camoflague textures, um...how the heck do you camoflague a spaceship with a paint scheme? Paint it all black? Or put a starfield paint scheme on it? Hell if I know...:nervous:
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probably look good with a dark brownish black color scheme to it.
sw33t!!!
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It looks great.
But it's spelled "Harasser". :p
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****, this is good.
Does this mean that I can't call my new corvette the GTCv Molester now?:D
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Molesto = annoying in Spanish :)
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the texture test i presented to IP was cammo...he almost puked:)
(http://www.soft4net.ro/~phoratiu/test.jpg)
well the hexagonal plates are the thing to go anyway..cammo don't know
I am currentry involved in a much more complex project : TBP ..this is a try for me to see if i can do something without reference.:D
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It's wow.....ugh...:eek2: ..amazing!
Keep doing such good work!
How did you make beams that fire only straight foward? I want such beams too!
I read the text too fast...missed the p.
b.t.w. - I just luv the F-14 Tomcat, it's my favorite interceptor
(A-10 Thunderbolt 2 is my favorite tank-killer)
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Originally posted by TrashMan
How did you make beams that fire only straight foward? I want such beams too!
Umm... Hecate and Hatshepshut does have mainly direct beams. Deimos does have slashers. Direct beams are the ones tomcat spoke about. And Shivans does have only direct beams (originally, unless you have made new ones or downloaded Shivan slashers).
So, you have had them all the time. :p
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The beams just have a very narrow FOV.
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Originally posted by IPAndrews
The beams just have a very narrow FOV.
Could be that too. :rolleyes:
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No, I meant a beam that fires ONLY DIRECT FOWARD, no tracking ability (like a primary on a fighter, but only a beam). That would ba a ULTRA-beam.
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Originally posted by Su-tehp
textures, um...how the heck do you camoflague a spaceship with a paint scheme? Paint it all black? Or put a starfield paint scheme on it? Hell if I know...:nervous:
:rolleyes:
during WW2, there were ships with black and green camo, what about that :p
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it reminds me the leji matsumoto's style....
and i love matsumoto's style;)
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Originally posted by tomcat
(http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/babylon/Screens_Misc/Screens_Tomcat/h3dv.gif)
this is my first ship for FS2 and not for B5 TBP total conversion. Is more like a test for me. 1100 p 7defense turrest, 6 main battery turrets, 2 forward fire only beams, 1 slasher beam, 3 missile launchers, 2 hangars.
When your done could you send me a copy of the ship? I think it looks perfict for the mod I'm makeing.:nod:
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I wont send it :) ...U will download:))
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Originally posted by venom2506
:rolleyes:
during WW2, there were ships with black and green camo, what about that :p
Big difference between hiding against ocean or land and hiding in the void of space. I'd go for reflective paint (for diffusion of laser weapons) over any camo paint job myself. And besides, I'd think that reflective hulls would reflect a natural-looking starfield most of the time anyway.
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
Molesto = annoying in Spanish :)
I was thinking more along the lines of a cruiser with a clerical collar.
Anyway. Reflective surfaces don't work in FreeSpace- make that sucker black.
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
Molesto = annoying in Spanish :)
Originally posted by Stryke 9
I was thinking more along the lines of a cruiser with a clerical collar.
LOL, don't forget to put the rosary on the ship, too! ;) :D
Hard to believe I actually used to be Catholic...I've never even been baptized. Thank God for my Dad's foresight! :D
Originally posted by Stryke 9
Anyway. Reflective surfaces don't work in FreeSpace- make that sucker black.
Now that would make an interesting paint scheme! I agree, go ahead and try black.:nod:
EDIT: Knight Templar, you're obviously a Spanish speaker. FYI, I'm from Argentina originally, but I live in the States now. Which country are you from? :)
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Big difference between hiding against ocean or land and hiding in the void of space. I'd go for reflective paint (for diffusion of laser weapons) over any camo paint job myself. And besides, I'd think that reflective hulls would reflect a natural-looking starfield most of the time anyway.
The only problem with that would be that the attacker ship just needs to look for an image of itself to see where to fire. :D
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But theoretically, the lasers would bounce off and hit the attacker. Though I think the fs universe uses pulse weapons. Kind of a combination of light and heat. Mirrors wouldn't reflect them.
EDIT: And besides, who attacks a capital ship with lasers? Most people just launch a rack of Helios.
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if i make it black it will look just like in the 3d diagram
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Well, mirror shielding prolly won't work because of the millions of mini-particles and asteroids that float around at very high speeds - it'll scratch the paint too much.
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Originally posted by tomcat
if i make it black it will look just like in the 3d diagram
Yeah, but with the in-game lighting, it won't just be plain vanilla black - it'll be all sorts of different shades of black! Yays!
:nervous:
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"Vanilla black"?
But he's probably right. In fact, if it doesn't work, you can just make it a very dark gray, and it will most certainly work. Put some more detailed pipey textures on the interior parts (the bit with the antennae, anywhere else that wouldn't be armored), for a bit of visual interest, and you've got a stealth destroyer.
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
"Vanilla black"?
Haven't you heard of the term "plain vanilla"?
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EDIT: Knight Templar, you're obviously a Spanish speaker. FYI, I'm from Argentina originally, but I live in the States now. Which country are you from? :)
heheh there's a first.
Idealy i would be from some wicked cool (3rd consequetive time listening to "The Hannukah Song" right now :D) country like South Africa, Brazil or Argentina, but truthfully, i am a gringo out of California in my 3rd year of Spanish :sigh:
Someday though... :nod:
"Don't stop dreamin' baby, no don't stop dreamin'..."
a'ight, comence with the "wtf" smilies por favor ;)
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
a'ight, comence with the "wtf" smilies por favor ;)
Ask, and you shall recieve!:wtf: :wtf: :wtf: ;)
Hey, don't sweat being a gringo, KT. I am a gringo myself, to hear my relatives tell it. I'm so Americanized (and an American citizen too) that sometimes my own family calls me a gringo! People from Argentina couldn't beleive it when I was rooting for England during the last Soccer World Cup. :eek: :D
And since when is Argentina a wicked cool country? :nervous:
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Ouch, being called a gringo by your own family... ;)
what was that one word for latin spanish illeterate.. joda, sé esto. .. hmm i'll get back to you on that one.
Argentina has always been wicked cool. I mean, it even sounds cool. so its not as uber- powerful as good ol' Estados Unidos.. but with the right Dict... leadership, we could take over the world!! ;)
" :wtf: "
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We prefer the term "cracker", thank you very much.
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:)
Don't worry man, just cuz i speak their language doesn't mean i've left my cracka' heritage. I'm just as white as any of you. :p
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
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Don't worry man, just cuz i speak their language doesn't mean i've left my cracka' heritage. I'm just as white as any of you. :p
Just don't say that the title of Will Smith's song from a few years ago is "Getting Ziggy With It". No one is that white, except for my brother. :rolleyes: ;) :D (Hint: I'm talking about the song titled "Getting Jiggy With It".)
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:lol: :lol: :lol:
*happens to be Will Smith fan*
don't worry, i only have one friend that is that white. Unfortuneatly for you guys, he posts here. :ha: