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General FreeSpace => FreeSpace Discussion => Topic started by: diamondgeezer on November 05, 2002, 05:42:00 pm
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Now, I know this has been discussed before, but I couldnae fid the topic. How odd.
So - how does the 'official' GTVA classification system work? Basically, could someone rank 'em lowest to highest, style o' thing?
Cheers
[EDIT] For KT's benefit - you know, like like level Rho, level Phi, whatever...
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specify
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The levels are classified by the greek alphabet, the same alphabet used to name gtva wings. They are classified by relative level, what rank can view them , and where. Ex, I beleave Omega is only users granted by the GTVA security council, while Alpha would be any dumbass who can read a computer.
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On that basis, I'll just bull**** the whole thing, I guess :)
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So you meant clearance levels.. what you said could have meant anything :) from classifing planets to "A class threat" - "C class threat"
Go with the words of vadar. i concure.
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Furry muff
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Originally posted by diamondgeezer
Furry muff
"The information I am about to divulge is classified Level FurryMuff. Unauthorized disclosure of such information is punishable by forced viewing of Teletubbies reruns for 9 months straight by the GTVA Sanity Act, Section 4, Subsection 18, Paraghaph 2."
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Originally posted by Sandwich
"The information I am about to divulge is classified Level FurryMuff. Unauthorized disclosure of such information is punishable by forced viewing of Teletubbies reruns for 9 months straight by the GTVA Sanity Act, Section 4, Subsection 18, Paraghaph 2."
A fate worse than death!:eek: :D
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Alpha, beta, gamma, delta, epsilon, zeta, eta, theta, iota, kappa, lambda, mu, nu, xi, omicron, pi, rho, sigma, tau, upsilon, phi, chi, psi, and omega.
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Lowest --> Highest, right Sesq?
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Yes
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Originally posted by Su-tehp
A fate worse than death!:eek: :D
And to think that in our boredom and desperation, we used to watch TeleTubbies in the Army.... wow. :shaking:
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Originally posted by Sesquipedalian
Alpha, beta, gamma, delta, epsilon, zeta, eta, theta, iota, kappa, lambda, mu, nu, xi, omicron, pi, rho, sigma, tau, upsilon, phi, chi, psi, and omega.
And in this moment I would like to thank you for reciting the greek alphabet.
thank you for reciting the greek alphabet.
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And for a bonus point, say how many letters are used in science, and for what!:ha: ;7 :lol: :D
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Originally posted by Sesquipedalian
...mu, nu...
Hey, it's those infernal gunboat wings from Tie Fighter! :lol:
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Gunboats were my favorite Imperial Vessel! Armed like an assault craft, flies like a fighter! W00t! :)
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Originally posted by IceFire
Gunboats were my favorite Imperial Vessel! Armed like an assault craft, flies like a fighter! W00t! :)
Meh - they were cool as far as that goes, but I think the whole idea behind them (especially design-wise) was a big cop-out. Should've stayed loyal to TIEs. :D
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Originally posted by Sandwich
And to think that in our boredom and desperation, we used to watch TeleTubbies in the Army.... wow. :shaking:
What? :wtf:
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Originally posted by Killfrenzy
Lowest --> Highest, right Sesq?
Presumably.
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That'd make sense, becaue the Colossus was classified Rho, and there is no way it was super-secret. I mean, honestly, how does one build a six kilometer long ship without a lot of people knowing about it? Perhaps the lower levels (alpha, beta, ..., xi) aren't used though.
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Originally posted by StratComm
That'd make sense, becaue the Colossus was classified Rho, and there is no way it was super-secret. I mean, honestly, how does one build a six kilometer long ship without a lot of people knowing about it? Perhaps the lower levels (alpha, beta, ..., xi) aren't used though.
Colossus wasn't that secret at all. Emperor Khonsu even made a public announcement about the start of the Colossus construction in 2345, on the tenth aniversary of the attack on Ross 128. Remember the Colossus cutscene? :cool:
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Originally posted by StratComm
That'd make sense, becaue the Colossus was classified Rho, and there is no way it was super-secret. I mean, honestly, how does one build a six kilometer long ship without a lot of people knowing about it? Perhaps the lower levels (alpha, beta, ..., xi) aren't used though.
Probably true.
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I think it was only the movie that was clasified level rho, because it did have supposid schematics of the colossus, not just her capabilities and the fact she existed.
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Most highly-classified military secrets seem to be designated by the last couple of letters; there is level upsilon (sathanas specs), level phi (Kappa 3 transmission), level psi (Mara specs when it was first encountered in the Vigilant attack) and level omega (shivan commnode).
And for a bonus point, say how many letters are used in science, and for what!
I can give where they are all used in math; almost every one is used somewhere in special function analysis... :D
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Originally posted by vadar_1
I think it was only the movie that was clasified level rho, because it did have supposid schematics of the colossus, not just her capabilities and the fact she existed.
Yeah, that makes sense. If you can't keep the existence of a ship being created by a couple dozen contractors secret (especially since the Vasudan Emperor mentions it publicly), at least keep its schematics under classified security.
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I'd always assumed that the Colossus was secret. The Emperor probably made his speech in front of the contractors, maybe - in any case it was probably recorded for release when the Colossus was unvailed.
Do you not think that the big C would have been mentioned in the game? You know, "keep it up lads, just a couple of weeks till the Colossus comes to save us", etc. Knowing about the Colossus would have inspired the Allies to keep fighting during the darkest days of the rebellion. However, it never got mentioned at all.
Now, presumably Bosch knew about it. Did he a) try to saboage it and fail, b) ignore it, knowing that he couldn't do anything about it anyway or c) he didn't think they'd get it online so fast...
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Now, presumably Bosch knew about it. Did he a) try to saboage it and fail, b) ignore it, knowing that he couldn't do anything about it anyway or c) he didn't think they'd get it online so fast...
I think maybe c) was involved. Maybe they rushed the final stages of construction and testing. You know the sort of thing there's 5 years left until we launch the thing but, oh look the NTF have just sprung up, lets work a bit harder to finnishes they thing ahead of time.
And also remember that Bosch wasn't intrestted in controlling a few NTF worlds. He was using the NTF so he could find and activate the Knossos and contact the Shivans. For all he cared the Big C could destroy the NTF, so long as he contacted the Shivans.
Do you not think that the big C would have been mentioned in the game?
I think maybe that was more of a game surprise issue. On the other hand how would they get in a reference without it sounding like it was crowbared in. Then again maybe everyone knew that the Big C was soon to be ready. OK that last point is a bit silly and I don't believe it myself, but it does have to be pointed out.
I'd always assumed that the Colossus was secret
I always assumed that the Big C wasn't secret at least in the fact that it was being build etc. Design secrets, turret numbers etc would be kept under wraps etc. After all, a project like the Big C is a great moral booster.
Discuss.
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Originally posted by Sandwich
And to think that in our boredom and desperation, we used to watch TeleTubbies in the Army.... wow. :shaking:
eh-oh!
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Originally posted by IceFire
Gunboats were my favorite Imperial Vessel! Armed like an assault craft, flies like a fighter! W00t! :)
bah, ph34r the power of the TIE Advanced! w00t.
*fires up TIE Fighter*
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Originally posted by Tar-Palantir
For all he cared the Big C could destroy the NTF, so long as he contacted the Shivans
So, pretty much option b, then :)
I mean, :v: could have made some great missions using the run up to the Colossus deployment... imagine defending the construction yards, or holding out at an outpost under a massive NTF attack, knowing that the Big C is about to rescue you if you can just hang on... you'd be waiting to see the NTF ****e themselves as your uber-warship drops out of warp and opens a can of whup-ass...
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Originally posted by diamondgeezer
So, pretty much option b, then :)
I mean, :v: could have made some great missions using the run up to the Colossus deployment... imagine defending the construction yards, or holding out at an outpost under a massive NTF attack, knowing that the Big C is about to rescue you if you can just hang on... you'd be waiting to see the NTF ****e themselves as your uber-warship drops out of warp and opens a can of whup-ass...
Sounds like a good mini-campaign.
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mabey someone posted this,(im too lazy) but this is from the fs2 ref guide
Wing Names
* = indicates a regular wing name
Terran
(Greek Alphabet)
Alpha *
Beta *
Gamma *
Delta *
Epsilon *
Zeta *
Eta
Theta *
Iota
Kappa *
Lambda
Mu
Nu
Xi
Omicron
Pi
Rho
Sigma
Tau
Upsilon
Phi
Chi
Psi
Omega *
Vasudan
(Zodiac Signs)
Cancer *
Leo
Virgo *
Libra
Scorpio *
Sagittarius
Capricorn
Aquarius
Pisces *
Aries *
Taurus *
Gemini
Shivan
(Hindu Gods)
Brahma
Vishnu *
Shiva *
Saraswati
Lakshmi
Parvati
Durga
Venkateshwara
Satyanarayana
Rama *
Krishna *
Gauri
Karikeya
Gayatri
Ganesh
Hanuman
Dyaus
Varuna *
Indra
Surya
Savitar
Soma
Agni
Vayu
Ushas
Arjuna *
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Originally posted by Hippo
mabey someone posted this,(im too lazy) but this is from the fs2 ref guide
Wing Names
* = indicates a regular wing name
Terran
(Greek Alphabet)
Alpha *
Beta *
Gamma *
Delta *
Epsilon *
Zeta *
Eta
Theta *
Iota
Kappa *
Lambda
Mu
Nu
Xi
Omicron
Pi
Rho
Sigma
Tau
Upsilon
Phi
Chi
Psi
Omega *
Vasudan
(Zodiac Signs)
Cancer *
Leo
Virgo *
Libra
Scorpio *
Sagittarius
Capricorn
Aquarius
Pisces *
Aries *
Taurus *
Gemini
Shivan
(Hindu Gods)
Brahma
Vishnu *
Shiva *
Saraswati
Lakshmi
Parvati
Durga
Venkateshwara
Satyanarayana
Rama *
Krishna *
Gauri
Karikeya
Gayatri
Ganesh
Hanuman
Dyaus
Varuna *
Indra
Surya
Savitar
Soma
Agni
Vayu
Ushas
Arjuna *
Yeah, these are the wing names from FS1; the Hindu ones were made obsolete in FS2.
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Yep. Shame this is supposed to be discussion about something completely different, eh?
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:lol: