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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: aldo_14 on November 08, 2002, 03:37:54 pm

Title: Java
Post by: aldo_14 on November 08, 2002, 03:37:54 pm
Right..well, I've decided I need to brush up on me Java skills - wot with not having used it since last April (if you ever saw me working on routegraph.java, you'd know why...) - but sod knows what I'm actually going to make.  

so, anyone got any ideas for a little app?  I can't do graphics yet  - that's next semester (with 3d texture maps and learning to do phong shading - wohoo!) - bt I can do a bunch of crap regardless (various data structures, parsing files in/out, windowed GUI stuff, graphs (erc) and some other crap I can't think of off hand.
Title: Java
Post by: Stealth on November 08, 2002, 03:47:36 pm
start out by doing a web poll, that should be fairly easy...


EDIT:  Let me clarify:  a JAVA web poll
Title: Java
Post by: aldo_14 on November 08, 2002, 03:55:43 pm
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Originally posted by Stealth
start out by doing a web poll, that should be fairly easy...


Not javascript - Java.  No web stuff, just proper programs.  i did start doing some specs for a custom tbl builder program, but realised it was pretty redundant (cut and paste?).
Title: Java
Post by: Stealth on November 08, 2002, 04:13:20 pm
i meant java... a java applet

a web poll applet

if you want to stay away from web stuff then i dunno :)
Title: Java
Post by: vyper on November 08, 2002, 06:07:32 pm
How about you do my coursework for me aldo? :p
Title: Java
Post by: Sandwich on November 08, 2002, 07:20:30 pm
How about a really simple app that will display CPU temp, system temp, and CPU fan RPM? I know there are others out there, but what the heck. :p
Title: Java
Post by: NeoHunter on November 09, 2002, 01:04:03 am
Even thought Java is the upcoming popular web programming language of the world, I just got to say this.

I HATE THE JAVA API!!!! IT SUCKS!!!!
Title: Java
Post by: aldo_14 on November 09, 2002, 05:19:01 am
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Originally posted by Sandwich
How about a really simple app that will display CPU temp, system temp, and CPU fan RPM? I know there are others out there, but what the heck. :p


Good one....... not sure if it's possible (cos of the JVM abstraction layer) - but I'll have a quick look through the libararies to see if physical hardware can be accessed........
Title: Java
Post by: vyper on November 09, 2002, 09:13:14 am
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Originally posted by aldo_14


Good one....... not sure if it's possible (cos of the JVM abstraction layer) - but I'll have a quick look through the libararies to see if physical hardware can be accessed........


My first thought would be - no. :no:
Title: Java
Post by: mikhael on November 09, 2002, 11:02:26 am
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Originally posted by aldo_14


Not javascript - Java.  No web stuff, just proper programs.  i did start doing some specs for a custom tbl builder program, but realised it was pretty redundant (cut and paste?).


I was just discussing TBL programs with someone the other day. I think it would be a great idea. Yes, it would be a bunch of cut and paste, but you could also take it a lot farther. You could setup sanity checking on values, template/toolkits for building specialised weapons from generalised ones, etc.

Of course, I'd probably build something like that to get a grasp of how the FS2 TBLs work. :D
Title: Java
Post by: aldo_14 on November 09, 2002, 02:55:01 pm
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Originally posted by mikhael


I was just discussing TBL programs with someone the other day. I think it would be a great idea. Yes, it would be a bunch of cut and paste, but you could also take it a lot farther. You could setup sanity checking on values, template/toolkits for building specialised weapons from generalised ones, etc.

Of course, I'd probably build something like that to get a grasp of how the FS2 TBLs work. :D


I just couldn't really see a benefit from it...

NB:  You can't directly access CPu stats form Java, but you can access a dll that does that for you.  i found a neat little site saying how to do this :)
Title: Java
Post by: vyper on November 09, 2002, 06:27:26 pm
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Originally posted by aldo_14

 you can access a dll that does that for you.  


*hits self*
I'm missing too many obvious things - I'm going to bed!!!
Title: Java
Post by: Styxx on November 11, 2002, 05:37:58 am
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Originally posted by mikhael
I was just discussing TBL programs with someone the other day. I think it would be a great idea. Yes, it would be a bunch of cut and paste, but you could also take it a lot farther. You could setup sanity checking on values, template/toolkits for building specialised weapons from generalised ones, etc.

Of course, I'd probably build something like that to get a grasp of how the FS2 TBLs work. :D


Some time ago I spent some fifteen minutes writing a TBL "cleaner" in java. Input is a table file, output is the table file clean of comments and superfluous blank lines and spaces, properly idented (sp?). Can't find the damn thing now, tho. :p :D
Title: Java
Post by: Neon on November 11, 2002, 08:47:27 am
I ALWAYS wanted to learn how to work with Macromedia Shockwave/Flash :(
Title: Java
Post by: Stealth on November 11, 2002, 10:53:27 am
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Originally posted by Neon
I ALWAYS wanted to learn how to work with Macromedia Shockwave/Flash :(


so why not learn?  www.flashkit.com
that's all you need to start :nod: :)
Title: Java
Post by: vyper on November 11, 2002, 10:58:29 am
For nice, beginner, not too shabby stuff, use www.swishzone.com
(I tink thats the link:nervous:  )
Title: Java
Post by: Stealth on November 11, 2002, 11:02:00 am
That's sWiSH, not Flash...

it's a difference... it's like CoffeeCup Firestarter (which makes custom Flash movies, exported as SWF files).  it's not the same thing