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Modding, Mission Design, and Coding => The Modding Workshop => Topic started by: Darkage on November 14, 2002, 05:41:10 pm
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As the topic title says.
I have updated it so it can be used better in the game.
It can fire at caps and at fighters/bombers. As it is a type 3 beam.
It is a new beam nice and shiny!. for more information read the readme. in the zip file.
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/inferno/darkage/rbc.jpg)
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/inferno/darkage/rbc1.jpg)
download me ! (http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/inferno/darkage/RBC.zip)
Update!: I noticed the beams where abit overkill. So i tweaked it. It should be better now.
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MMmmmmm. Pretty. :) How effective is it in play?
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Originally posted by mikhael
MMmmmmm. Pretty. :) How effective is it in play?
Prety effective it can destroy a Demon class destroyer in around 35 seconds. I also made it as strong as an Aeoles cruiser. it sounds strong but it can be killed prety fast.
But it should hold it's ground prety good, it uses as powerfull fast firing beam.
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I can't wait to compare them in game and see how they perform. If I remember correctly the original RBC beams are red right? Cool contrast. Can have old ones and occasional new ones (To show that the old ones are slowly being phased out)...
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they used to be green like all gta anti-cap beams. Pherhaps you could add something to the model? like the added turrets and missile launchers it was supposed to have... but its a nice color beam...
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Originally posted by vadar_1
they used to be green like all gta anti-cap beams. Pherhaps you could add something to the model? like the added turrets and missile launchers it was supposed to have... but its a nice color beam...
You can read my mind.
I was going to do that. I'll do that tomorrow though.
And i'll add the new version to this one.
It will have 4 extra turrets and it wil be mobile.
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sweet...oh, btw could you make the beam point forward on the physical model? I.E. you can use point at target, and that will be the way it shoots? And put a decent dockpoint on it?
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DAMN! This looks like a sweet mod!
And I love the color. If I were a Jedi Knight and could make a lightsaber, it would be the same color as this beam. Turquoise is my favorite color. :D
But, yeah, I think Analazon is right: the beam should point only forward, rather than slant off at an angle like in the first pic. Can this RBC be made with a homing mode, i.e. one that can turn and face different targets?
Darkage mentioned "mobile" RBCs; did he mean RBCs that can fly around? :shaking:
Or did I misinterpret and he just meant "homing" RBCs?:nervous:
Now this would be a nice way to "update" the RBC for DatDB...:drevil:
EDIT: Oy, Analazon! Get yer butt to the DatDB forum and report to the "All in!" topic! I need to know if you can access the internal. Plus there's a whole lot of discussion going on, and we need your input.:drevil: :devil:
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I really like it. :D
The beam colors own and it is really powerful, but hopefully after he tools with it, not overly ;) :p
After he finishes with the turrets, i think it would be an excellent mod for DatDb. I've always wanted someone to make mobile RBC's. I made a few out of lego, pretty cool stuff and you can make good tactics with the idea.
Do it! Do it! :)
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Originally posted by Su-tehp
DAMN! This looks like a sweet mod!
And I love the color. If I were a Jedi Knight and could make a lightsaber, it would be the same color as this beam. Turquoise is my favorite color. :D
But, yeah, I think Analazon is right: the beam should point only forward, rather than slant off at an angle like in the first pic. Can this RBC be made with a homing mode, i.e. one that can turn and face different targets?
Darkage mentioned "mobile" RBCs; did he mean RBCs that can fly around? :shaking:
Or did I misinterpret and he just meant "homing" RBCs?:nervous:
Now this would be a nice way to "update" the RBC for DatDB...:drevil:
EDIT: Oy, Analazon! Get yer butt to the DatDB forum and report to the "All in!" topic! I need to know if you can access the internal. Plus there's a whole lot of discussion going on, and we need your input.:drevil: :devil:
A mobile one wil be made tommorrow. With more defence turrets on it. The axis wil be changed so you can point it to a ship.
I made the POV abit bigger so it would be easyer to use in new missions.;)
Any one who wants to use this or my new version i am gonna make and upload tomorrow is free to do so;)
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What? FS2 use tactics? How is that possible? :D
Actually, I have wanted to see sentry guns that could hold thier own for a long time. I never really understood the Mjolnir concept, as they were so stupidly weak against fighters and couldn't properly aim (can we say SEXP and placement). I loved the mission where you have to hold the blockade, but nothing is more annoying than cruising around in your bomber, loaded to the gills with heavy ordinance, and watching a couple of errant fighters take down the whole RBC grid. Yay for defensive RBCs!
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
I really like it. :D
The beam colors own and it is really powerful, but hopefully after he tools with it, not overly ;) :p
After he finishes with the turrets, i think it would be an excellent mod for DatDb. I've always wanted someone to make mobile RBC's. I made a few out of lego, pretty cool stuff and you can make good tactics with the idea.
Do it! Do it! :)
Don't wory it wil be done:D
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yeah.. I was kinda annoyed to see that they didn't even drop a few lowly Alastors or what not to "gaurd" the Mjolnir's in the Kings Gambit.
Kinda dumb if you as me..
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
yeah.. I was kinda annoyed to see that they didn't even drop a few lowly Alastors or what not to "gaurd" the Mjolnir's in the Kings Gambit.
Kinda dumb if you as me..
Yup...it kinda lost the idea of a Defence platform.
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Darkage, what I'd like to request is this:
A Mjolnir RBC with the old, original Mjolnir skins, that does have additional missile banks/guns for fighter self-defense, uses the new beam that doesn't aim off the RBC's axis, can rotate to aim at different targets but does not fly around.
Aiming RBCs I like but mobile RBCs? Sorry, that's just not my cup of tea. If you've got mobile RBCs, why have fighters?
I'd like an upgraded Mjolnir, but there will be no mobile RBCs in DatDB. The concept just does NOT appeal to me.
I tried to use the Massiah beam on an experimental tbl file; I transferred the massiah weapon.tbl data using wordpad to my DatDB weapon.tbl file but the massiah didn't show up in FRED. I think I goofed, because I forgot to reset FRED. Ah well.
Besides, my CD-ROM drive is busted, so I can't play Freespace and test it in-game anyway... :doubt:
Anyway, can you make a RBC mod with my above specifications?
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I'd recommend slapping a single Piranha turret on the back. That would lok better and be just as funcional as four or five missile turrets.
Su-tehp- If you have FS2 installed, why not use fs2_open? You don't need the CD for that.
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Originally posted by Su-tehp
Darkage, what I'd like to request is this:
A Mjolnir RBC with the old, original Mjolnir skins, that does have additional missile banks/guns for fighter self-defense, uses the new beam that doesn't aim off the RBC's axis, can rotate to aim at different targets but does not fly around.
Aiming RBCs I like but mobile RBCs? Sorry, that's just not my cup of tea. If you've got mobile RBCs, why have fighters?
I'd like an upgraded Mjolnir, but there will be no mobile RBCs in DatDB. The concept just does NOT appeal to me.
I tried to use the Massiah beam on an experimental tbl file; I transferred the massiah weapon.tbl data using wordpad to my DatDB weapon.tbl file but the massiah didn't show up in FRED. I think I goofed, because I forgot to reset FRED. Ah well.
Besides, my CD-ROM drive is busted, so I can't play Freespace and test it in-game anyway... :doubt:
Anyway, can you make a RBC mod with my above specifications?
Sure...i can do that.
With mobile i ment that it can rotata like you said at diferent targets:D
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What I would like to see is:
a) the main gun faces forward
b) the rotating sections ( and the main hull) are rotational symmetric (the current Volition one is rather, er, BAD, in that regard....)
c) has the extra turrets mentioned in the tech database (although I have deleted those from tbl file, to make space for......more ships!;7 )
What would be cool is to have a missile launcher on three of the six sides of the main section, spaced equally, pointed forwards and outwards, so that they cover the front arc. Stick a flat plate turret on the base and then we will have the 'Correct Volition tech description' model.
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Men in white uniforms (blue trim) bust into the thread and escort Darkage to his computer and keep him company until he finishes the "mobile" (Flys around) RBC. Once finished they thank him for his support as a Federation Citizen and promptly trash all the originals spouting nonsence about "Earth Security"...
Actually I love the idea of a truly "Mobile" RBC. Especially if the size can be reduced you would have the defensive remote units used by the Newtype Gundam pilots (Who control them all mentally simultaneously)!!!
If you can make this technilogical nightmare real Darkage I'd appreciate it immensely as this would be a good boost for Gundam TC...
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You'd have a Leviathan with no AAA beams...
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Originally posted by Star Dragon
Men in white uniforms (blue trim) bust into the thread and escort Darkage to his computer and keep him company until he finishes the "mobile" (Flys around) RBC. Once finished they thank him for his support as a Federation Citizen and promptly trash all the originals spouting nonsence about "Earth Security"...
Actually I love the idea of a truly "Mobile" RBC. Especially if the size can be reduced you would have the defensive remote units used by the Newtype Gundam pilots (Who control them all mentally simultaneously)!!!
If you can make this technilogical nightmare real Darkage I'd appreciate it immensely as this would be a good boost for Gundam TC...
Hehe...give me some time, and i'll try to make it realy mobile:)
But i had a little problems with stuff. nothing to serious though.
I wil work it out. But i got board and converted the RBC to lightwave and animated it:D
Look in the Hardlight art forum for more.
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Guys, if you want to slap missile launchers onto the Mjolnir, then realistically you'll have to enlarge the model so it has someplace to store all those missiles. I think it's safe to presume that the current Mjolnir frame is packed to capacity with beam generator and reactor hardware.
And put me in the "mobile RBCs are stupid" camp. It's completely unbalanced, and silly-looking to boot.
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Originally posted by ZylonBane
And put me in the "mobile RBCs are stupid" camp. It's completely unbalanced, and silly-looking to boot.
Not totaly mobile.
Only be able to rotate to face it's target.
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I tested the download out and it had a problem with the maps. Said it ws unable to open them but got it in game. I targeted a convoy of enemies traveling past 4 of the RBC (2 per side). They just sat there and got creamed... I will re-DL the RBC hopefully it was a first build issue... Just letting you know. They look good though. Will place 4 old ones next to them to see what happens.
BTW Happened to see an episode of G fighter. The French Gundam had 20 bits (mini RBC's) that resembled Roses (the petals)! How gay. Make manly bits that scream "You're gonna die!" :lol:
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Originally posted by ZylonBane
And put me in the "mobile RBCs are stupid" camp. It's completely unbalanced, and silly-looking to boot.
Originally posted by Darkage
Not totaly mobile.
Only be able to rotate to face it's target.
"Mobile" literally means "moving" but maybe there's a way to differentiate.
If you mean an RBC that stays in one location but rotates to aim at a different target, say "aiming RBC".
If you mean an RBC that flies around like a fighter, say "mobile RBC" or "flying RBC".
Aiming RBCs = :yes: :D
Flying/mobile RCBs = :no: :ick
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I actually had an RBC design that i made that Is mobile and aims. It is mobile so it can move on its own, fly some where, then take up a "sniper position" and brace it self while it fires. Kinda kool i thought. ;) :p