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Title: Time to put away StarCraft/C&C.. :p
Post by: Kamikaze on November 14, 2002, 07:14:47 pm
For all strategy game fans (notice the stress on 'strategy') I'm going to be advertising a new strategy game being developed by an independent game company in singapore, Teridian Shadow (http://www.teridianshadow.com)

The game features very strategical gameplay where every unit is valuable and things like unit visibility enable you to do things like ambush a convoy from behind a large hill!

The game also has spying, remote-control and piloted units, maneuver saving (ability to save certain sets of maneuvers for squads), and the developers are doing their best to create an involving plot to go with the game.

IMHO, it has potential to be a great strategy game.

BTW: look on the forums, that's where a lot of important content is.
Title: Time to put away StarCraft/C&C.. :p
Post by: vadar_1 on November 14, 2002, 07:26:30 pm
Sounds interesting, but the screens suck, low-polys everywhere.
Title: Re: Time to put away StarCraft/C&C.. :p
Post by: mikhael on November 14, 2002, 07:33:52 pm
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Originally posted by Kamikaze

The game features very strategical gameplay where every unit is valuable and things like unit visibility enable you to do things like ambush a convoy from behind a large hill!



Must not engage in pendantic nitpicking over strategic vs. tactical planning/gameplay...
Title: Time to put away StarCraft/C&C.. :p
Post by: Stryke 9 on November 14, 2002, 07:38:27 pm
Not very impressive. They've been beaten out by about seven years in all of their "features", except 3D RTS, which has been done better elsewhere. I've seen this before.
Title: Time to put away StarCraft/C&C.. :p
Post by: Kamikaze on November 14, 2002, 09:20:33 pm
Oh, well I just thought it'd be better than things like Command and Conquer and Starcraft that everybody is all over....

AH well, back to Earth 2150 :p (must get TA!)
Title: Time to put away StarCraft/C&C.. :p
Post by: Stryke 9 on November 14, 2002, 09:30:20 pm
Mmm, yees, TA... I don't think they even sell that at Chips and Bits anymore! Too bad, really, since it's the only game I really want to play more anymore...
Title: Time to put away StarCraft/C&C.. :p
Post by: Kamikaze on November 14, 2002, 10:07:45 pm
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
Mmm, yees, TA... I don't think they even sell that at Chips and Bits anymore! Too bad, really, since it's the only game I really want to play more anymore...


seriously? :eek2: Oh no.. I was planning to buy from there....

/me goes to check

Edit: still in stock, whew
Title: Time to put away StarCraft/C&C.. :p
Post by: Stealth on November 14, 2002, 10:25:07 pm
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Time to put away StarCraft...


hell no... not yet
Title: Time to put away StarCraft/C&C.. :p
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on November 15, 2002, 06:45:05 am
Quite, save StarCraft! And C&C!
Title: Time to put away StarCraft/C&C.. :p
Post by: Alikchi on November 15, 2002, 07:13:11 am
Starcraft should have died 3 years ago.
Title: Time to put away StarCraft/C&C.. :p
Post by: Zeronet on November 15, 2002, 07:40:13 am
Starcraft is invincible.
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Post by: mikhael on November 15, 2002, 10:51:33 am
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Originally posted by Alikchi
Starcraft should have died 3 years ago.


Real Time Tragedy games should have died 3 years ago.
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on November 15, 2002, 01:16:34 pm
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Originally posted by Alikchi
Starcraft should have died 3 years ago.


How dare you, sirrah! I'll give you a cauliflower ear! Pistols at dawn! Alley oop! And so on.

I was playing starcraft this very afternoon, and I never tire of it, the same holds for C&C, although I need to but RA, but it is impossible.
Title: Time to put away StarCraft/C&C.. :p
Post by: Fineus on November 15, 2002, 01:19:53 pm
I really need to try Starcraft, never played it. TA is (in my opinion) the best game of its type at the moment (still). Although Homeworld has some neat effects and what have you...
Title: Time to put away StarCraft/C&C.. :p
Post by: Stryke 9 on November 15, 2002, 01:23:08 pm
Eh. E2150 still holds the cup, as far as I've seen. Which makes sense, as most games since have only had 3D for the sake of looking 3D, and haven't really made use of its strat capabilities as much...

But yeah. Starcraft is the strat equivalent of letter blocks- fine as an introduction to the genre, low learning curve and not too challenging, nothing realy wrong with it, but after a time you kinda outgrow it.;)

C&C is the gaming equivalent of a slow enema, in case you were curious.
Title: Time to put away StarCraft/C&C.. :p
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on November 15, 2002, 01:27:51 pm
The original C&C perhaps, but Red Alert? This was the first RTS I ever played, and practically made me who I am. (Socialist, and fan of the USSR)
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Post by: Fineus on November 15, 2002, 01:30:25 pm
Lol, don't ever let the US media hear you say that a game shaped who you are ;)

I enjoyed C&C, but Red Alert was by far the best I've played.
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on November 15, 2002, 01:33:38 pm
Bullay for Red Alert!

Say Thunder, ever been here (http://web.starman.ee/rost/ra)? It's the best RA site I've ever seen.
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Post by: Stryke 9 on November 15, 2002, 01:44:27 pm
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Originally posted by Petrarch of th VBB
This was the first RTS I ever played, and practically made me who I am. (Socialist, and fan of the USSR)


All right, this depresses me altogether. Just when I was only halfway down on the remaining socialists in the US, now I hear the motivation for it...


The one good thing about RA was the giant communist death squid. That ruled. Everything else... well, weak ripoffs of Dune only go so far. It's the equivalent of if the most popular FPS in modern times was a Doom clone.
Title: Time to put away StarCraft/C&C.. :p
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on November 15, 2002, 01:47:04 pm
That's Red Alert 2, not Red Alert. The first Red Alert is infinitley superior!

And BTW, I live in England, not the US, and am spreadin Socialism throughout my local area.
Title: Time to put away StarCraft/C&C.. :p
Post by: Stryke 9 on November 15, 2002, 01:53:41 pm
England IS Socialist.

Perhaps you should, you know, LEARN what Socialism's about before supporting it merely because of some twisted stereotype in a factory game?
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Post by: aldo_14 on November 15, 2002, 04:27:13 pm
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
England IS Socialist.

Perhaps you should, you know, LEARN what Socialism's about before supporting it merely because of some twisted stereotype in a factory game?


if you're referring to the labour governemnt....
a/ That'd be Britain you mean, not England.
b/ Labour is far from Socialist... tuition fees, trying to get private sector 'funding' for the (London) underground, schools, hospitals & air traffic control?  Not very socialist if you ask me, mate.
Title: Time to put away StarCraft/C&C.. :p
Post by: Stryke 9 on November 15, 2002, 06:26:49 pm
Limited socialist, but socialist all the same- "socialism" covers all the gray area between capitalism and Communism. Fact, Britain's very near the center of the two...
Title: Time to put away StarCraft/C&C.. :p
Post by: Anaz on November 15, 2002, 09:23:14 pm
back on topic...the rts that ATM owns all others for me right now is shattered galaxy...addictive...even if you have to deal with all of the idiots on the internet if your in bast...yeah...neways url: www.sgalaxy.com . Its an MMO, not for the faint of connection...
Title: Time to put away StarCraft/C&C.. :p
Post by: Ulundel on November 16, 2002, 03:01:47 am
C&C is just classical...
Title: Time to put away StarCraft/C&C.. :p
Post by: Colonol Dekker on November 16, 2002, 06:02:03 am
BLIZZARD SITE (http://www.blzzard.com)  I know you all seen ghost by now, but Seing as the promo vid only mentions the trio of super consoles (GC PS2 XBOX) I may end up getting it for my PLaystations 2,

For those of you that havent heard of ghost yet,  Think C+C Renegade but as keriigan style bird in an SC universe (bfore the overmind had its way with her:lol: )  

From the vids and shots it looks like the main character will fight against protoss, zerg and Terran (big surprise etc) and use the standar ghost-type abilities like nuke-calldown and lockdown but use her psychich powers to see hidden units (observer etc), Also be able to mad gymnastic neck breaky leg moves.....
Title: Time to put away StarCraft/C&C.. :p
Post by: NeoHunter on November 16, 2002, 11:08:58 am
When Command & Conquer first came out, I was so mesmerised that we could finally click and drag 20 tanks and just crush any base. Considering the fact I suffered many hours of tedious clicking in Dune 2.:D

Then Starcraft came along and so far I think its the best non-3D real-time strategy game so far. Warcraft 3 is by far the best overall real-time strategy game in my opinion.
Title: Time to put away StarCraft/C&C.. :p
Post by: NeoHunter on November 16, 2002, 11:13:09 am
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Originally posted by Colonol Dekker
BLIZZARD SITE (http://www.blzzard.com)  I know you all seen ghost by now, but Seing as the promo vid only mentions the trio of super consoles (GC PS2 XBOX) I may end up getting it for my Playstations 2,

For those of you that havent heard of ghost yet,  Think C+C Renegade but as keriigan style bird in an SC universe (bfore the overmind had its way with her:lol: )  

From the vids and shots it looks like the main character will fight against protoss, zerg and Terran (big surprise etc) and use the standar ghost-type abilities like nuke-calldown and lockdown but use her psychich powers to see hidden units (observer etc), Also be able to mad gymnastic neck breaky leg moves.....


In short, she is something like a Jedi. Only she doesn't wield a lightsaber and cannot do telekinesis or strangle people with her powers.:)

Too bad its a console only game.:mad:
Title: Time to put away StarCraft/C&C.. :p
Post by: 01010 on November 16, 2002, 11:46:54 am
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Originally posted by NeoHunter


In short, she is something like a Jedi. Only she doesn't wield a lightsaber and cannot do telekinesis or strangle people with her powers.:)

Too bad its a console only game.:mad:


::hugs his xbox::
Title: Time to put away StarCraft/C&C.. :p
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on November 16, 2002, 01:20:56 pm
Anyone know where I get buy Red Alert, along with counterstrike and aftermath? It seems impossible.
Title: Time to put away StarCraft/C&C.. :p
Post by: Colonol Dekker on November 18, 2002, 08:48:09 pm
I got my Worldwide wartfare set (C+C and all add-ons RA2 and add-ons, and a lil demo of tibsun) from PC WORLD (UK) for £20(screw euros) But im assuming "COUGHWESTWOOD.COM (http://www.westwood.com) COUGH" may have a sale site...
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Post by: Nico on November 19, 2002, 02:43:05 am
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Originally posted by Petrarch of th VBB
Anyone know where I get buy Red Alert, along with counterstrike and aftermath? It seems impossible.


counterstrike and aftermath were almost impossible to find in france :( I wanted to play the ant campaign :(
Title: Time to put away StarCraft/C&C.. :p
Post by: Shrike on November 19, 2002, 04:09:18 am
Hey, does anyone have installed (or can install) RA:Counterstrike?  I can't install it any more, and I want the themes off the disc.  :(
Title: Time to put away StarCraft/C&C.. :p
Post by: Stealth on November 20, 2002, 01:27:41 pm
RA: Counterstrike?

you mean half life?
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Post by: 01010 on November 20, 2002, 02:08:40 pm
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Originally posted by Stealth
RA: Counterstrike?

you mean half life?


Nah, it was a pretty fun addon for RA. You could get Demo trucks (normal convoy trucks with nukes strapped to them), chrono tanks and other things.
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Post by: Nico on November 20, 2002, 03:19:10 pm
and there was the ant campaign :)
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Post by: NeoHunter on November 21, 2002, 05:25:47 am
The ant campaign was fun, if not creepy. Damn hard to kill those things.:)
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on November 21, 2002, 06:54:03 am
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Originally posted by 01010


Nah, it was a pretty fun addon for RA. You could get Demo trucks (normal convoy trucks with nukes strapped to them), chrono tanks and other things.


Nah, that was Aftermath.
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Post by: Nico on November 21, 2002, 07:04:25 am
yeah, aftermath seemed crappy, no new graphics, nothing, many mods did better. counterstrike, on the other hand, was a true addon.
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Post by: CP5670 on November 21, 2002, 08:07:34 am
Both of them had very good missions (much better than the campaign missions), but the multiplayer maps weren't that great (with a few exceptions).

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yeah, aftermath seemed crappy, no new graphics, nothing, many mods did better. counterstrike, on the other hand, was a true addon.


I think you have that switched? aftermath was the one with the new units and stuff.
Title: Time to put away StarCraft/C&C.. :p
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on November 21, 2002, 01:14:29 pm
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Originally posted by CP5670

I think you have that switched? aftermath was the one with the new units and stuff.


Indeed, Counterstrike came first, and had some single missions,a nd new MP maps, then came aftermath, with new missions, new units, a whole host of new maps, and a desktop theme.
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Post by: Nico on November 21, 2002, 02:56:27 pm
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Originally posted by CP5670
Both of them had very good missions (much better than the campaign missions), but the multiplayer maps weren't that great (with a few exceptions).



I think you have that switched? aftermath was the one with the new units and stuff.


well, maybe. weren't the same names in french ( for the few copies avaialable here anyway ), so I tend to mix them up.