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Title: New ship (Vasudan)
Post by: StratComm on November 19, 2002, 10:28:55 pm: After numerous failed attempts, I have managed to come up with a vasudan-looking ship. Now I'm looking for comments...
(http://www.geocities.com/cek_83/vascap1.txt) (http://www.geocities.com/cek_83/vascap2.txt)
(http://www.geocities.com/cek_83/vascap3.txt) (http://www.geocities.com/cek_83/vascap4.txt)
(http://www.geocities.com/cek_83/vascap5.txt) (http://www.geocities.com/cek_83/vascap6.txt)

EDIT: I should probably credit untouchable for his Hybrid Destroyer; this ship is definately inspired by it. Not too closely, of course, but inspired nonetheless.

And if the pics are down, try checking back in an hour or so.
Title: New ship (Vasudan)
Post by: HeX on November 19, 2002, 10:30:40 pm: Ooo! Nice! Definitly Vasudan feel to it. How big?
Title: New ship (Vasudan)
Post by: Knight Templar on November 19, 2002, 10:32:15 pm: Props. :cool:

That thing owns. :yes:

Need a name?

(You wanna pounce on this one Mr. S? I don't see how we couldn't)
Title: New ship (Vasudan)
Post by: diamondgeezer on November 19, 2002, 10:32:32 pm: This one gets a big fat :yes:

Outstanding work, Strat

[EDIT] Aldo needs to see this...
Title: New ship (Vasudan)
Post by: mikhael on November 19, 2002, 10:33:23 pm: That's probably the best fan made Vasudan capship I've seen yet. Bravo. Absolutely: BRAVO. :)
Title: New ship (Vasudan)
Post by: Stryke 9 on November 19, 2002, 10:36:48 pm: Yep.
Title: New ship (Vasudan)
Post by: Galemp on November 19, 2002, 10:38:52 pm: Definitely Hatshepsut inspired! It also looks like it borrows from the Typhon. Very good. StratComm, you kick ass.
Title: New ship (Vasudan)
Post by: EdrickV on November 19, 2002, 10:47:17 pm: Now you just need to make a bunch of Vasudan turrets for that destroyer. ;)
Title: New ship (Vasudan)
Post by: Su-tehp on November 19, 2002, 11:21:06 pm: StratComm, do you remember that conditional offer I made to you? I'm willing to reconsider... :D :nod:
Title: New ship (Vasudan)
Post by: Knight Templar on November 19, 2002, 11:46:06 pm: WE ARE THE STAFF OF DATDB. LOWER YOUR FIREWALLS AND SURRENDER YOUR MODELS. YOUR UNIQUE MODS AND STAFFERS WILL BE ADDED TO OUR OWN. YOUR SHIPS WILL BE RESKINNED TO SERVICE US. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.

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Title: New ship (Vasudan)
Post by: Su-tehp on November 19, 2002, 11:50:43 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Knight Templar
WE ARE THE STAFF OF DATDB. LOWER YOUR FIREWALLS AND SURRENDER YOUR MODELS. YOUR UNIQUE MODS AND STAFFERS WILL BE ADDED TO OUR OWN. YOUR SHIPS WILL BE RESKINNED TO SERVICE US. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.

(http://hwcomic.planethardwar.com/smiles/borgsmile.gif) (http://hwcomic.planethardwar.com/smiles/borgsmile.gif) (http://hwcomic.planethardwar.com/smiles/borgsmile.gif) (http://hwcomic.planethardwar.com/smiles/borgsmile.gif) (http://hwcomic.planethardwar.com/smiles/borgsmile.gif) (http://hwcomic.planethardwar.com/smiles/borgsmile.gif) (http://hwcomic.planethardwar.com/smiles/borgsmile.gif) (http://hwcomic.planethardwar.com/smiles/borgsmile.gif) (http://hwcomic.planethardwar.com/smiles/borgsmile.gif)

'Atta boy, KT! By God, let's show 'em what for!

Lol! That's KT for you: subtle as a chainsaw and about as easy to work with! :D

Seriously, though, I don't want DatDB to get a reputation for arrogance and grabbing up modders like the Borg grab species....
Title: New ship (Vasudan)
Post by: Black Wolf on November 19, 2002, 11:52:19 pm: Very Nice! Maybe not the best ever made (I liked that one with the big Vertical fin a bit more) But still very, very :yes:...

And are there any new mods and/or modders that Su Teph doesn't want? I mean yeah, technological advancement is all good and well, but you're going to be replacing every ship in the fleet - it'll be another "look at this pretty ship" campaign if you're not amazingly careful...
Title: New ship (Vasudan)
Post by: Knight Templar on November 19, 2002, 11:53:47 pm: :lol: :lol: :lol: lol... ... lol... LOL.... ... LOL :lol: :lol: :lol:

He has no idea, does he?
Title: New ship (Vasudan)
Post by: Su-tehp on November 19, 2002, 11:57:37 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Black Wolf
And are there any new mods and/or modders that Su Teph doesn't want? I mean yeah, technological advancement is all good and well, but you're going to be replacing every ship in the fleet - it'll be another "look at this pretty ship" campaign if you're not amazingly careful...

Don't worry, we're not replacing every ship in the fleet. I believe we're keeping the GTD Hecate... ;) :D

Don't worry, BW. Only about a third of the Terran ships have been replaced (mostly fighters) and only a couple of new Terran and Vasudan capships and Vasudan fighters have been added. It's new Shivan mods that we'll need soon enough...

But Strat's new Vasudan destroyer does round out the final Vasudan capship I was looking for. (Well, second-to-last, really. :) )

EDIT:
Quote
Originally posted by Knight Templar
:lol: :lol: :lol: lol... ... lol... LOL.... ... LOL :lol: :lol: :lol:

He has no idea, does he?

Quiet, you! Get back to work!

*snaps bullwhip at KT's backside*
Title: New ship (Vasudan)
Post by: Knight Templar on November 20, 2002, 12:09:30 am: "Yes sir, may I have another?"
Title: New ship (Vasudan)
Post by: Su-tehp on November 20, 2002, 12:17:42 am: Quote
Originally posted by Knight Templar
"Yes sir, may I have another?"

*snaps bullwhip at KT's backside again*

Ask and you shall receive! :D
Title: New ship (Vasudan)
Post by: Knight Templar on November 20, 2002, 12:24:56 am: *looks up form watching old Val Kilmer movies*

:)

Back to teh ship!!1

How big is it?/How you gonna arm it?

:D
Title: New ship (Vasudan)
Post by: Sesquipedalian on November 20, 2002, 03:37:37 am: Looks good StratComm. :yes:

The two front prongs seem to need a bit more variety in their texturing. They seem just a vast expanse of a single texture right now. Maybe replace the texture used on the top and bottom sides with the other (more purplely) tile texture from the middle of the three back fins.. This would also help with the texture seam between the sides of the front prongs and their top and bottom which is fairly noticable at this point and probably very hard to fix (beleive me, I understand:)).

You could maybe also use that texture on the upper back between the parts using the grey tile, again just for some more variety and so the purplely texture doesn't seem like the odd one out.

Overall, great stuff. The Scroll of Atankarzim wants it. :D
Title: New ship (Vasudan)
Post by: KARMA on November 20, 2002, 07:05:40 am: wow, very nice, just the engine textures are a little strange, but excellent design!
Title: New ship (Vasudan)
Post by: Zarax on November 20, 2002, 08:08:31 am: Hey Stratcomm, may i propose you some concepts for a vasudan design i have in mind?
Title: New ship (Vasudan)
Post by: vyper on November 20, 2002, 01:31:13 pm: This is like a next generation Tanen. :)
Title: New ship (Vasudan)
Post by: Su-tehp on November 20, 2002, 02:00:53 pm: Quote
Originally posted by vyper
This is like a next generation Tanen. :)

There's a thought. But the main factor deciding whether Strat's new ship is a new Vasudan carrier or a new vasudan destroyer depends on its size.

If it's 2km or so long, it's a destroyer. If it's 4km or longer, it's a carrier.

Hey Strat, how long is this thing, anyway? :D (And if Strat replies with the words "my thing is about nine inches or longer", I'm leaving. :wtf: ;) )

EDIT: Come to think of it, this new ship DOES look better than the Tanen, so if this thing could just be resized to 4.5 km long or so, it would make an excellent Vasudan carrier...provided it was adequately armed with appropriate turrets. :D
Title: New ship (Vasudan)
Post by: SadisticSid on November 20, 2002, 02:27:35 pm: I would have thought armament and turret positioning would mean more when classifying ships, then size - 2km = destroyer, 4km = superdestroyer or dreadnaught. If it has a big/a multitude of hangar bays then it's a carrier.

Kudos on the design StratComm. I've seen nothing but well-designed and fairly original content from you. Curving the inside edges of those forward prongs would yield an even more aesthetically pleasing ship IMHO. Otherwise, it's cool! :nod:

Sid.
Title: New ship (Vasudan)
Post by: karajorma on November 20, 2002, 03:30:13 pm: Very good work. :yes:
Title: New ship (Vasudan)
Post by: Knight Templar on November 20, 2002, 05:03:37 pm: Quote
Originally Posted by Mr. S

EDIT: Come to think of it, this new ship DOES look better than the Tanen, so if this thing could just be resized to 4.5 km long or so, it would make an excellent Vasudan carrier...provided it was adequately armed with appropriate turrets. :D

It always kinda annoyed and confused me upon seeing all these new carriers and stuff with all the heavy beams and weaponry...

IMO Carriers should be lightly armed and almost completely devoted to Fighters. Depending on size, they should have 20 turrets max with 5 of those max being Cap to Cap beams.. but no BFGGreens or BGreens even. Maybe on BGreen on front or something, but mostly Slashers or something.. It just seems right that way.
Title: New ship (Vasudan)
Post by: Su-tehp on November 20, 2002, 05:19:35 pm: Me, I always considered the Warlock and Tanen carriers to be mini-Colossus type ships. They take less than half the time to construct, have close to the same armament and can carry more fighters to boot.

IMO, if you need a decent amount of firepower that is more than a destroyer can give and the Colossus (or its FS player-made campaign equivalent) is not available, call in a super-carrier. :D
Title: New ship (Vasudan)
Post by: Anaz on November 20, 2002, 08:51:17 pm: :lol:

looks like a flat hasephut (or whatever it is called)...

albeit it is very cool, but that was my first impressions
Title: New ship (Vasudan)
Post by: Bishop Gantry on November 22, 2002, 11:26:42 am: vereh sekseh vasudan cap ship but how would it look like a Shivan cap ship with exctensive spiking:D
Title: New ship (Vasudan)
Post by: Martinus on November 22, 2002, 05:32:52 pm: I'm so impressed I'm going to swear...

Damn that's good

well what did you expect? :D
Title: New ship (Vasudan)
Post by: SadisticSid on November 26, 2002, 05:08:59 pm: BTW StratComm, I was poking around on your site and noticed the links to both the Phoenix and Chimera were broken. Can I get them from any other location?

Sid.
Title: New ship (Vasudan)
Post by: StratComm on November 27, 2002, 08:48:45 am: Try them again, I forgot that I had renamed the zip to include release version. It should work now.
Title: New ship (Vasudan)
Post by: SadisticSid on December 01, 2002, 08:46:05 am: Thanks a-diddly - your ships are positively the best mods I have for FS2. :yes: :yes: :yes:

Sid.
Title: New ship (Vasudan)
Post by: Razor on December 01, 2002, 09:16:44 am: Awesome ship! :yes:
Title: New ship (Vasudan)
Post by: Su-tehp on December 01, 2002, 06:34:06 pm: How soon until this baby is ready for download for in-game use? :D

Not that I'm in any rush or anthing...
Title: WOW
Post by: TrashMan on December 03, 2002, 11:03:03 am: WOW!!!:eek2: :eek2: :eek2:

Great ship!
Can't wait to get it on my HDD.
Just one question: What class will it be?

I don't know about you, but I've class them like so:
1. Cruisers - up to 300m, heavily armed, no fighterbays (n/f)
2. Frigates - up to 1000m, heavily armed, n/f
3. Light carriers - up to 1200m, lightly armed, large f.bays
4. Destroyers - up to 2500m, medium armed, medium f.bays
5. Battlecruisers - up to 3500m, heavily armed, n/f
6. Carriers - up to 4500m, medium armed, large f.bays
7. Battleships - up to 5500m, very heavily armed and armoured, ultra small or no f.bays
8. Dreadnoughts - up to 7000m, heavily armed, large f.bays
........
Title: New ship (Vasudan)
Post by: IPAndrews on December 03, 2002, 11:22:46 am: This ship is the biz. Obviously.
Title: New ship (Vasudan)
Post by: SadisticSid on December 03, 2002, 02:15:57 pm: TrashMan, you forgot Juggernaughts, which should be Apocalypse/Gigas-like - double figure kilometers of length. :)

Sid.
Title: New ship (Vasudan)
Post by: Grunt on December 03, 2002, 02:37:57 pm: :yes:
Great work !
Maybe a bit more curved shapes ...

But it's very good. :)
Title: New ship (Vasudan)
Post by: Knight Templar on December 03, 2002, 05:49:26 pm: Need a name for this bad boy?

how bout' GVD Bennu (Egyptian Phoenix) or GVD Khonsu (Vasudan Emperor and Egyptian Moon god) ?
Title: New ship (Vasudan)
Post by: Su-tehp on December 03, 2002, 06:57:47 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Knight Templar
Need a name for this bad boy?

how bout' GVD Bennu (Egyptian Phoenix) or GVD Khonsu (Vasudan Emperor and Egyptian Moon god) ?

GVD Bennu sounds good. GVD Khonsu sounds pretentious, IMHO. :D
Title: New ship (Vasudan)
Post by: Knight Templar on December 03, 2002, 07:11:17 pm: I only said it cuz K saounded new and Khonsu is a moon god. But i was thinkining of DatDB, particularly on a few plot lines.. you able to ICQ?
Title: New ship (Vasudan)
Post by: Su-tehp on December 03, 2002, 08:47:38 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Knight Templar
I only said it cuz K saounded new and Khonsu is a moon god. But i was thinkining of DatDB, particularly on a few plot lines.. you able to ICQ?

I can ICQ with you, but only for a few minutes, say around 11:30pm EST.

And as for using the Bennu for DatDB...it depends on what size it is going to be. If it is destroyer-sized (i.e. between 2000 to 3000 meters, preferably 2200 meters or so), then we can use it to replace the GVD Asheru. If not, we'll see. :D
Title: New ship (Vasudan)
Post by: Knight Templar on December 03, 2002, 08:53:20 pm: Asheru!! No!!!

well actually, it did bother me a bit.. looks like a brain and all.. BUT IT HAS POTENTIAL!

I must admit.. this one is damn cool and It looks like it shouldn't be any less than 2000 m

Oh yeah, I'll be on ICQ.. same Bat Time, Same Bat Channel as always..