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Hosted Projects - FS2 Required => Inferno => Topic started by: Woomeister on November 27, 2002, 04:43:09 am
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How would you prefer to download the campaign once it is completed.
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remember I'm on 56k :D
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One big vp file offcourse....can't get any easier for the noobs
Or make a own created exe wich extracts all the files.
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Originally posted by USS Alexander
One big vp file offcourse....can't get any easier for the noobs
Yeah but a 70mb+ file is a bit big for 56kers
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But VP's are teh sh1t!! :D
Over a few nights it shouldn't be that bad :wink:
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Have to go with your UL limits so whatever is easiest for you. Does this mean you're getting close to releasing it? :shaking:
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:nod:
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Originally posted by Star Dragon
Does this mean you're getting close to releasing it? :shaking:
;7
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Originally posted by Woomeister
Yeah but a 70mb+ file is a bit big for 56kers
Six of one or a half dozen of the other, really. It's still the same amount of data.
Just put up a big sign suggesting they get a download manager first. I use GetRight, but this one is free: http://www.real.com/download/
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Originally posted by Woomeister
remember I'm on 56k :D
I mock your 56K connection compared to my broadband conn :lol:
Probably best to do smaller VP files. Make several of em, just smaller. A 70mb download would take a few years for 56kers anyway...
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I'm on a 56k too, so I feel your pain Woo :(
(trying to dl TFC 1.1.1.0 which is 80 megs :doubt: )
Can't....wait...till...it's..(inferno)..released!!!!
Cor
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Yip am a 56k as well, and BT have no plans to bring broadband to the area i live unless everyone in the town of lochmaben signs up for it 8 times over:( :( :( :(
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That sucks. Why would you have to depend on other people to get the things you need. Why don't you simply get ADSL? It's almost as good as Broad band. It's fast reliable and you can get the speed of up to 2 MB/s which is 40 times faster than the 56Ker. And besides, it's much cheaper than BB. But there is even something far better than BB and it's satelite connection. Ah, the joy of 40 Mbits/s
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I'm using cable. Better than ADSL, at least here.
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Cable can't be better than ADSL since ADSL is of a more "younger" date. :p By the way, what's the connection speed you are using?
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512
and I said it's better here. HERE where I live.
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I say the single big file is the best - nothing more irritating than fiddling around when you don't have top. And I say this as a 56k er who understands the value of night time - we regularly download 600 + MB ISOs from Kazaa with no real trouble. (Linux ISOs, for Warez fearing Admins.)
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Well I'm on 56k and I have to say 70 megs is no big deal. Just the other week I was downloading a couple of 800 mb movies. Go for the big one.
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It may not be a big deal for you to download 70 MB, but it's a big deal for Woomeister to upload 70 MB.
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Surely at least one other member of the inferno staff has all the files and is on cable or something?
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Originally posted by Razor
It may not be a big deal for you to download 70 MB, but it's a big deal for Woomeister to upload 70 MB.
especially to upload at 2k :D
Nope none of the staff have up to date files I'm afraid, I'm currently added subsystem paths to the remaining 60+ ships so the whole thing needs reuploading once done.
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Can't wait, can't wait, can't wait, can't wait, can't wait, can't wait, can't wait, can't wait, can't wait, can't wait, can't wait, can't wait, can't wait, can't wait, can't wait, can't wait, can't wait,can't wait, can't wait, can't wait, can't wait, can't wait, can't wait, can't wait, can't wait, can't wait, can't wait, can't wait, can't wait, can't wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*sits in a corner and waits for Inferno to be released*
*keeps eyes fixed on the "Status" page on the Inferno website*
*waits....*
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Originally posted by Corhellion
*keeps eyes fixed on the "Status" page on the Inferno website*
Well I updated that page a few days ago :D
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I know...I almost hit the roof of my house when I saw 4 of the 6 catagories(there is 6 right?) were in the 90s!!!
Oh, and...er...just asking Woo, you need a beta tester? Cause...uh...I could be one. Just asking/wondering...
Cor
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I might be looking for external beta testers in a few days/weeks, or I might just release the thing :)
as for a breakdown of the status page:
Ships 98%: Adding some paths and doing final tweaks, this is the stat for the entire campaign set of mods.
Music 100%: Done ages ago, 2 new tracks and a few briefing tracks from FS1.
Weapons 97%: Playing with some stuff in the internal ;)
Interface 90%: Fighter interfaces are almost complete, one main hall done.
CB Animations: Few full length ones, and the rest are total crap...
Missions 25%: Chapter 1 GTVA is undergoing testing, Chapter 1 SOC is underway and the other chapters have a few missions done.
When we do release it'll be the GTVA Chapter 1. This will come with 60% of the mods missing the two new species which feature later on. Some SOC/EA ships that are not needed will be absent as well.
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COoOL! And If You do need some external beta testers(like me) send me a PM.
Cor
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I submit my PC to your mod testing purposes ;)
I got tired of watching the old Gigas kill the Enterprise in one shot ... I ran it like 10 times...
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Razor
That sucks. Why would you have to depend on other people to get the things you need. Why don't you simply get ADSL? It's almost as good as Broad band. It's fast reliable and you can get the speed of up to 2 MB/s which is 40 times faster than the 56Ker. And besides, it's much cheaper than BB. But there is even something far better than BB and it's satelite connection. Ah, the joy of 40 Mbits/s
Can't get ADSL for the same reason thats wot BT ave told me!! unless am willing to pay thousands of pounds just to get a line installed so i've bn informed. i think not!!!!!
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Ok I think I know how I'm going to do it, only one question remains, would you prefer the files in a set of installer programs or just in a set of self extracting rar files.
Either way is good for me :)
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Originally posted by Woomeister
I might be looking for external beta testers in a few days/weeks, or I might just release the thing :)
No no no! Whatever you do, don't waste all your hard work by not doing this last, oh so little, but oh so important step! Otherwise, it'll be the only thing people think about when they think of Inferno - every little bug that could and should have been fixed, but wasn't, and I know it deserves better than that.
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Originally posted by Razor
It may not be a big deal for you to download 70 MB, but it's a big deal for Woomeister to upload 70 MB.
Yeah, I forgot about that.
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Definately smaller vps, so that uploading updates is not so painful. Downloads don't matter to me, but I'll bet that there will be a couple of bugfixes thrown in at some point and I'll bet Woo'd prefer to upload a replacement to one little vp than to reupload the entire campaign.
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Originally posted by Woomeister
Ok I think I know how I'm going to do it, only one question remains, would you prefer the files in a set of installer programs or just in a set of self extracting rar files.
Either way is good for me :)
Why not do it like TBP does?
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The size of the TBP files are too large for me to upload, my files will be split up a different way.
I've already got most of them ready :D
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Originally posted by Woomeister
The size of the TBP files are too large for me to upload, my files will be split up a different way.
I've already got most of them ready :D
YAY! :D Now finish the rest of them!!
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All the VP files except the missions one are compiled, uploaded a few of them.
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Originally posted by Woomeister
All the VP files except the missions one are compiled, uploaded a few of them.
Oh cool, a play-by-play updater :D
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All the mods have been uploaded, only the missions remain.
I estimate a full install will be a 80mb+ download.
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so if thas only 1/3rd of whats its going to be u might as well go n record a few thousand cds :wink:
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Nope I'm giving you the entire modpacks for the first 3 chapters, the rest is less than 10mb at the moment :)
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what about the anims ;7
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If they where all full length, it would be a few hundred megs more.
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Are there going to be the shorter anims then?
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yeah you get those as default, the large ones are optional.
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:nervous: :shaking: :nervous:
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*holds his breath*
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Originally posted by Woomeister
All the VP files except the missions one are compiled, uploaded a few of them.
opens up ftp
oh goodie-goodie-goodie.
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I own all your connections! Double T3 here ;7 ;7 ;7
70 megs is 2-3 minutes for me. :ha:
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to bad you wont be getting it :ick
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Will it be released to the general public before Christmas Day?
Sid.
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I doubt it now, I'll get it up as soon as I can.
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Here's an idea. first VP it, then zip it, then RAR it, then TAR it.
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Maybe we should start an Inferno release date Advent Calendar. :P
Sid.
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YAY!
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Nah to early for that yet :D
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damn...
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Originally posted by Edwin
Here's an idea. first VP it, then zip it, then RAR it, then TAR it.
...and you'll end up with some corrupted archives
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Well the whole lot has to go on fileplanet now, so I'm holding off untill I decide how I'm going to do that...
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The best thing to do, I think, is make a multiple archive set using WinRAR or something - that way you'll get the benefits of good compression while keeping it in easy-to-download chunks for modem users. Also, if you don't want to put it on FilePlanet, I might be able to help out there. :)
Sid.
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I use Winrar at maximum compression now. I would be insane to use Winzip for this :D
Well I have to put the inital version on fileplanet but I'm hoping to get it mirrored on as many sites as possible.
The main problem will be updating the files. I can't overwrite on fileplanet so I'll have to keep changing the links. That's why I'm trying to hold off while I assemble a team to do turret paths so I can do the new fighter and cb animations. If I can get all the mods 100% complete I'll never need to touch most of the packs again :)
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*waves hand* I can do paths
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Spicious I've added you to the new staff thread I just posted, once I get a few more people I'll get it sorted out.
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Originally posted by Woomeister
Well the whole lot has to go on fileplanet now...
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Did I miss something???
Why would you do such a thing?
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Ugh... FilePlanet... Scary.:no:
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Maybe you could re-release the EA pack in the interim? :D
(Why was that removed BTW?)
Sid.
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long ****ing lines + slow ass servers + hard-to-get-araund + **** +a large blender = fileplanet
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Originally posted by Edwin
long ****ing lines + slow ass servers + hard-to-get-araund + **** +a large blender = fileplanet
Amen, dude...
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Yeah, Fileplanet=Absolute SH1T. Period.
I mean come on! You have to pay for access to files, and if you don't, you have to wait, a long WAIT! :confused: :mad2: :mad:
Let's make a :middlefingertofileplanet: smiley. :no:
*Whew!* Sorry 'bout that, it's been rough 'round here. Styxx destroyed my Ion Cannon Satellite. :(
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Originally posted by SadisticSid
Maybe you could re-release the EA pack in the interim? :D
(Why was that removed BTW?)
I think I deleted it so I'm not uploading it again so close to a release.
It was removed because a certain individual broke into our private forum and tried stealing our files. I had to rename the staff files directory to stop them, and that pack was in that folder.
The reason it'll be going on fileplanet is we now have to use it for all public files.
I hate fileplanet more than all of you combined :p
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Relax guys, FilePlanet is provided freely to us. Remember HLP doesn't pay GameSpy anything, so they can do whatever they want - and besides, with a little patience, FilePlanet isn't so bad. I'm aware that it's not crash-hot, but they're trying to provide a good (free) service, just like you are - so, live with it. ;)
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The old fileplanet was better. But both are hell for 56kers :)
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The uploading isn't so bad. My avarage speed is 80 kb/sec (don't know about 56kers) But downloading is hell on earth - max 12 kb/sec with download accelerator. They should give project leaders free Fileplanet access, that'd make things easier for us.
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Max upload at 2k max download at 4k from fileplanet. If the file fails you then have to rename it as you can't overwrite fileplanet files (last time I checked anyway)
My current INF data folder filesize compressed is 90mb, and it's still rising...
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Maybe you can send it to me some way...oh, that would require uploading too.
Max upload at 2k? Outch dude.
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I'd estimate a final compressed size of 150-200mb, and that maybe without single frame anis and low res textures :D
The 90mb is all hi res stuff.
2k is the max, it usually goes down to 1.3k on gamespy servers...
I'll sort something out later I suppose...
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Well...good luck :)
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Heh I'll need it :D
My new fighter selection anis average at 3mb per ship for both resolutions, so 3*26 ships = 78mb at least just for those :D
If they compress to around 50% it'll leave say 40mb, so that's 130mb total without cb animations :D
I'm gonna have fun uploading this thing :lol:
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Both resolutions...? :nervous:
I forgot to do the hi res interface for TT...
*runs away crying*
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I have both resolutions for everything including our main hall.
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Nice. :nod:
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Originally posted by SadisticSid
Maybe you could re-release the EA pack in the interim? :D
Actually if everything goes to plan, the EA Final pack including all the EA capships, fighters, bombers and non combatants may be complete in a few hours. I've done 18 full fighter selection animations over the last two days, and only the Claymore Mk I is left for the EA. All the EA ships are pathed and considered complete so I may release it soon. :)
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Waiting with baited breath. BTW Woo did you get the email I sent you?
Sid.
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Yep, yours was one of two I received, haven't got around to testing the mission yet, but I will try to fit it in soon :)
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The EA pack will be 10.8mb compressed 25mb uncompressed.
This pack doesn't include single frame anis or low res textures, that's the full everything for the EA.
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Originally posted by Ten of Twelve
The uploading isn't so bad. My avarage speed is 80 kb/sec (don't know about 56kers) But downloading is hell on earth - max 12 kb/sec with download accelerator. They should give project leaders free Fileplanet access, that'd make things easier for us.
Don't forget - you guys aren't project leaders, I am. ;) (Or at least, I was... and will be, when I return full-time.) The hierarchy is... GS -> 3DAP -> HLP -> You guys. If they give that free access to anyone, it would be the actual GS staff (like the core staff of the Planets).
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[OFF-TOPIC] Woah! Steak has +10K posts!
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mmmm hmmm... for quite some time..
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Yay I have a 512k Cable connection :D
I've uploaded the EA Pack, but fileplanet is giving errors (on other files too)
I'll post a link once it works :)
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Cool woo :)
Does this mean we'll be getting the whole thing soon? What's left to do, if not? My offer to help with the missions still stands BTW. ;)
Sid.
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I'll try and get things organised by the end of this week, that includes playing the missions sent to me.
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Originally posted by Woomeister
Yay I have a 512k Cable connection :D
I've uploaded the EA Pack, but fileplanet is giving errors (on other files too)
I'll post a link once it works :)
I hate you. :lol: Now I am the one stuck with 56k. Curse the phone companies.
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Terran pack is ready to be tested before final uploading to fileplanet. That one is around 13mb and contains all Terran mods (except SOC and EA)
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WE WANT TERRAN PACK
WE WANT TERRAN PACK
WE WANT TERRAN PACK
WE WANT TERRAN PACK
repeat until terran pack is released
Oh and the first three SOC screenshots have some problems
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You already have most of it :D
What kind of problems?
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404 File not found.
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the links lead to
http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/inferno/screens/SOC01-01a.jpg
http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/inferno/screens/SOC01-01b.jpg
http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/inferno/screens/SOC01-01c.jpg
they should be
http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/inferno/screens/SOC1-01a.jpg
http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/inferno/screens/SOC1-01b.jpg
http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/inferno/screens/SOC1-01c.jpg
Fine :p
WE WANT SHIVAN PACK
WE WANT SHIVAN PACK
WE WANT SHIVAN PACK
WE WANT SHIVAN PACK
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Yay people check the site :D
Fixed it.
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Originally posted by Spicious
WE WANT SHIVAN PACK
You'll be getting it to path soon :p
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Originally posted by Woomeister
Yay people check the site :D
Fixed it.
Sorry, I'll stop checking the site
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I don't update the site much so I don't expect people to check it :)
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I visit it every so often just to remind myself what I'm drooling for. ^_^
Sid.
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Ships 98%: Adding some paths and doing final tweaks, this is the stat for the entire campaign set of mods.
Music 100%: Done ages ago, 2 new tracks and a few briefing tracks from FS1.
Weapons 99%: Last minute tweaks
Interface 100%: Fighter interfaces are complete, one main hall done.
CB Animations: Few full length ones
Missions 28%: Chapter 1 GTVA is undergoing final testing, Chapter 1 SOC is underway and the other chapters have a few missions done.
total uncompressed size: 230+mb
little status update
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GREAT GOOGAMOOGA!
I won't be able to download it though :p stupid 56k modem :(
but since I'm part of the beta testers (I am still a Beta Tester aren't I Woo?) And I may do some voice acting soon, I'm fine.
Anything you need me to do Woo?
Like fix the spelling?
Cor
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Yeah I could use your report, especially for spelling as that hasn't been checked for months :D
All the packs except the Shivan, SOC, Ancient and missions are ready now.
It's a 60mb+ download without those and the 70mb of cb animations :D
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I'll do it soon. well..this sunday and next weekend.
can't do anything today cause I got 2 musical performances to put on.
but as soon as I get the missions spell checked I'll send em.
Cor
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Well please hurry, as I might have the first chapter ready for launch by Friday...
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With more packs compiled I can give a better estimate for the initial download size.
The current packs total nearly 100mb compressed, and 222mb uncompressed.
For a minimal download that's 51mb compressed, 140mb uncompressed.
Note that this is just for the mods and 1 chapter of cb animations, it does not include full and single cb animations for the remaining chapters, or any of the missions.