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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Carl on December 02, 2002, 06:52:24 pm

Title: when will it end?!
Post by: Carl on December 02, 2002, 06:52:24 pm
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20021202/wr_nm/tech_spam_dc_4
Title: when will it end?!
Post by: Nico on December 02, 2002, 07:01:02 pm
I changed my email adress a year ago coz I was receiving porn mail (a bad joke, I guess ) , and now I have no spam mail at all ^_^
Title: when will it end?!
Post by: Sesquipedalian on December 02, 2002, 07:25:58 pm
Rule #1: NO FORWARDS! Don't pass on forwards.  Before giving anyone your address, tell them they are forbidden to ever send you a forward.  Forwards are evil. Forwards are bad.  Do not under any circumstances let your email address be included in a forward.  Every time it is forwarded again, the list of email addresses it includes gets longer.  Eventually it falls into a spammer's hands, and WHAMMO, you've got spam.

Rule #2: Blind Carbon Copy. If you really must insist on sending out a mass email, put all recipients into the BCC field.  That way they won't be visible to others.  there is still the danger, of course, that one of the people you send this mass email too will pass it on, and your address will therefore be included, but at least you've spared your friends.  If you really want to avoid this, I suggest:

Rule #3: NO FORWARDS!  It doesn't matter how funny it is.  Don't send bulk emails, or emails that people are likely to pass on via forwarding.
Title: when will it end?!
Post by: Stryke 9 on December 02, 2002, 10:19:24 pm
See, this is why I don't USE email. Aside from the fact that I hate most forms of telecommunication.

Rule #4: Get a Yahoo or Hotmail account. Use it to sign up for things, and whenever you don't trust someone.
Title: when will it end?!
Post by: WMCoolmon on December 03, 2002, 12:30:47 am
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
Rule #4: Get a Yahoo or Hotmail account. Use it to sign up for things, and whenever you don't trust someone.


:yes:
Title: when will it end?!
Post by: Kamikaze on December 03, 2002, 12:39:02 am
And keep a backup personal address (the one which your friends contact you with) so you can abandon one ship when it goes down...
Title: when will it end?!
Post by: Tiara on December 03, 2002, 12:46:47 am
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From Sory

(Story continues after advertisement)

ADVERTISEMENT
(http://us.a1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/a/am/american_express/300x250_cash1.gif)


SPAM! :p
Title: when will it end?!
Post by: Cannikin on December 03, 2002, 01:43:30 am
I never understood the concept of spam ads. Do people really think that if you flood people's email accounts they'll somehow be compelled to buy your products? :confused:

They're creating negative publicity for themselves so they're actually hurting their own sales :rolleyes:

Oh, and Stryke, if you hate telecommunication, what are you doing on this message board? :rolleyes: :p
(Yeah, yeah, I know you said MOST forms. Don't kill me)
Title: when will it end?!
Post by: Knight Templar on December 03, 2002, 01:46:53 am
Hell i don't even read any of it.. straight to the delete. I get like 1.2 seconds of view time..


Perhaps sub/super liminal messaging?
Title: when will it end?!
Post by: Sesquipedalian on December 03, 2002, 02:44:33 am
*Remembers old email story he wrote once long ago that talked about spam, among other things*
*Decides to dig it up and post it*



    The room was large and looming.  Well, maybe not looming exactly.  But it was large, sort of.  The second largest room in the house anyway.  Of course, it was a small house, so it wasn't really all that large, and the pale yellow walls, numerous pictures and flowers, and pleasant furniture arrangement made it actually kind of nice and cosy without seeming cramped in any way.  Now the basement bedroom, that was another story...

    The basement was inhabited by the guy currently at his computer in the not-so-large-and-looming living room, and his bedroom is of no consequence to this story, at least not yet.  He sat on a chair stolen from the dining room, wearing a pair of comfy pants and an old sweater.  Occasionally he scratches his freshly trimmed head.  He is attempting to write an email, in the vague hope that he will at last get a reply from someone, anyone.  You see, this is an email addict in withdrawal.

    He checked his inbox again this morning.  Like every day for over a week now, he found nothing there but spam, letters from impersonal internet con-artists attempting to swindle him of the money he sweats each day to earn, offering him get-rich-quick schemes, cheap viagara, and internet lottery tickets.  
 
   Spam is considered one of the darkest, most annoying aspects of the information age.  It is insidious and relentless. It defies all attempts to block it out.  It laughs at legislative attempts to hinder it's spread, laughs at them and sweeps them aside like so many vain unsubscribe notices.  It is also extraordinarily stupid.  Really, who in their right mind (or their wrong mind, or left mind, or any other mind of their choosing), would be in the slightest bit interested in most of the stuff advertised in spam? Moreover, absolutely no one with an IQ over 63 is going to trust a spammer with their credit card number.  This is why spam has proven to be successful with those who watch the Home Shopping Network.
 
   The email he is writing is addressed to a friend whom he has hasn't written to in a while, primarily because he accidentally deleted her last email to him and couldn't remember afterwards what she'd written him, or even for certain if she'd written to him.  The email contains news about how life is more or less the same old same old, except that he had the flu this week and had to come early from work two nights this week and missed another night entirely.  He caught the flu form his little brother whom he saw while visiting his mom last week during a forced, unpaid vacation.  He also tells her about an upcoming interview he has regarding a position at the Niagara Casino.

    A casino is a very, very good place to work.  It is a good place to work to work for a number of very important reasons.  These reasons, in this country, may come singly as small, gold-coloured discs, or in groups as little slips of paper.  At a casino, one is generally provided with many reasons to work there, mostly to prevent one from taking the casino owner's reasons for having a casino.  Our emailer is very excited about this interview, as he is someone in desperate need of reasons for paying his hefty tuition fees.
 
   Having run out of things to talk about, the guy from the basement decides to dispatch the miracle of communication technology he has been using and return to his dank lair, where he will attempt to do battle with the law of entropy. He must do this because his stepmother simply doesn't understand that you can't fight chaos, and that to clean his room will only produce more disorder in the universe, not less, and will moreover contribute to a process that will eventually result in the heat death of the cosmos.
Title: when will it end?!
Post by: Sesquipedalian on December 03, 2002, 02:52:24 am
You know, I once used the argument of that last paragraph to argue that not being lazy is morally wrong.







Yeah, I'm spamming.  But it's fun spam...!
Title: when will it end?!
Post by: Alikchi on December 03, 2002, 07:16:58 am
www.evilemail.com
www.hackernetwork.com

Both good, both free.
Title: when will it end?!
Post by: Stunaep on December 03, 2002, 08:45:04 am
so good being estonian. I never misinterpret spam letters as e-mails from friends. No friends of mine write in english.
Title: when will it end?!
Post by: karajorma on December 03, 2002, 08:48:18 am
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Originally posted by Sesquipedalian
Rule #1: NO FORWARDS! Don't pass on forwards.  Before giving anyone your address, tell them they are forbidden to ever send you a forward.  Forwards are evil. Forwards are bad.  Do not under any circumstances let your email address be included in a forward.  Every time it is forwarded again, the list of email addresses it includes gets longer.  Eventually it falls into a spammer's hands, and WHAMMO, you've got spam.


I was wondering about this one for a bit until I realised you were on about forwarding to multiple people where you are one of the recipients :)

If your friend forwards only to you no spammer will get your mail from that as far as I can see.

Of course if you forwards on to anyone you`re asking for trouble. :)

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Originally posted by Stryke 9
Rule #4: Get a Yahoo or Hotmail account. Use it to sign up for things, and whenever you don't trust someone.


I wouldn`t use Yahoo for that. They are very bad at stopping spam. Excite on the other hand seem to do a very good job. My account there started out as a throwaway address and 3-4 years later it's still perfectly usable while my first yahoo address recieves over a meg of spam every week.
Title: when will it end?!
Post by: Ulundel on December 03, 2002, 08:48:50 am
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Originally posted by Stunaep
so good being estonian. I never misinterpret spam letters as e-mails from friends. No friends of mine write in english.


Amen
Title: when will it end?!
Post by: Stryke 9 on December 03, 2002, 03:07:47 pm
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Originally posted by karajorma
I wouldn`t use Yahoo for that. They are very bad at stopping spam. Excite on the other hand seem to do a very good job. My account there started out as a throwaway address and 3-4 years later it's still perfectly usable while my first yahoo address recieves over a meg of spam every week.


The point, it is not to STOP spam going to the account. It is to divert it from your real account. If you're wanting a spamguard, you can set up your own best.
Title: when will it end?!
Post by: Thorn on December 03, 2002, 03:28:42 pm
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
Perhaps sub/super liminal messaging?


HEY YOU! JOIN THE NAVY!
Title: when will it end?!
Post by: karajorma on December 03, 2002, 05:35:08 pm
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Originally posted by Stryke 9


The point, it is not to STOP spam going to the account. It is to divert it from your real account. If you're wanting a spamguard, you can set up your own best.


Yes I know but it is still useful to choose a site that is still useable soon afterwards so that you can use it to register to sites which if I remember correctly require a valid e-mail address but which you don`t trust.

If you continually open accounts let them fill with spam and then forget about them you`re f***ed if you ever forget your password.