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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: kasperl on December 05, 2002, 10:55:25 am
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what`s your opinion on vadar_1's actions and the reaction of the admins on it? as a newbie,i'm just curious on how you guys react. and i just wonder, has this ever happenend before? i always thought the HLPBB was a place where you only did usefull comunity work, and didn't hack eachother.
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Originally posted by kasperl
...and i just wonder, has this ever happenend before? i always thought the HLPBB was a place where you only did usefull comunity work, and didn't hack eachother...
Yes, it has happened before in isolated cases, all taken care of in similar ways.
And you're right - at 99.99% of the time HLP is just that. Practically everyone is friendly and will help you out instead of trying to harm you in any way. Unfortunately, this is the Internet - you can never be sure that you won't find some "bad apples" here and there. We do our best to keep the community as friendly and helpful as possible, though.
:)
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you have Sandwich and Styxx to thank for doing research and checking IP logs on him
... and for believing me
EDIT: It's happened before, but as far as i know not in such a big case... he's been doing it for months, and not one of the admins suspected him. it's only because he started changing my profile (and later on Knight Templars...) that i reported him. i almost got banned for it, can you believe it, and the case was "dismissed"... but whadaya know, Sandwich kept checking, and we stayed in contact via email. Then Styxx helped, and between the two of them... well... you have the results
Thank you Styxx and Sandwich
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now let's all have a very big "you're a fag vadar"... so when he reads this he sees that no one supports him anymore
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So what made you guys finally see the light?
Meh.. I hate to say it but I told you..
Despite the "lack of proof".. we told what he was doing. And at least myself, had no reason to lie about it. Well either way, whats done is done and I'm just glad the Staff finally pulled through instead of letting him continure ****ing with me, stealth, and various other people.
[glow=red] Thank you [/glow]
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good, i didn't like Vadar anyway...
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everyone "sucked up" to him because he "knew how to hack"...
Styxx, why don't you tell them how he "hacked" ...
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Me neither, he seemed to have a grudge against a lot of people for no reason. Though he is a cracker and not a hacker. Hackers are people who try to get information through hacking and crackers mess with things etc and try to cause damage.
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Some new development here or something?
His conduct around here was indeed rather unpleasant (although he was better recently), but he seemed to be fine aside from that. Was he the one who did that Thunder image change thing?
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Originally posted by CP5670
Was he the one who did that Thunder image change thing?
i don't think so... i'm not allowed to say anything :)
Styxx, can i open my mouth now as to how he did it, etc.?
oh, and he's not a cracker or a hacker... he's a n00b
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umm ok sorry for this but im going to have to defend him
why didnt you just tell him to stop messing arround with your stuff and say that you would report him? big deal so he changed a thing here and there didnt kill your PC did he? or harm your life in any way he probobly just thought 1 it was funny wich it probobly was and he just tried out hes skills (gotta polish those vadar)
he did make some mistakes IP oh please so stupid
Such DIRECT changes stoopid :D
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Meh.. he's been ****ing with me since err.. August? Stealth for longer I think.
I was cool with him off an on, but it got old.
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Originally posted by Ashrak
umm ok sorry for this but im going to have to defend him
why didnt you just tell him to stop messing arround with your stuff and say that you would report him? big deal so he changed a thing here and there didnt kill your PC did he? or harm your life in any way he probobly just thought 1 it was funny wich it probobly was and he just tried out hes skills (gotta polish those vadar)
he did make some mistakes IP oh please so stupid
Such DIRECT changes stoopid :D
i told him... numerous times, and he kept at it... not just me either
and hacking is against the board rules, and now that you're taking his back, i don't like you either
EDIT: When i get home i'm going to post all the conversations i had with him, where i BEGGED him not to screw with my stuff!
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never mind, I just saw the announcement; guess he had it coming to him...
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you bet he had it coming, and he got away with it for longer than he should have
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and hacking is against the board rules, and now that you're taking his back, i don't like you either
Stealth, chill out bro'. Just a point of view. Vadar's the one we don't like, so lets not hate for no reason.
Anyways, stealth, what was the big thing you had for him?
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Originally posted by Stealth
you bet he had it coming, and he got away with it for longer than he should have
Yeah, well we didn't immediately think to look where we did, and every time he stopped after we tried something we figured the problem had been solved. Plus, we didn't have any proof until recently.
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So what, he get sloppy (Read over confident) and you finally tracked down his IP?
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Ok, let's stop with the flame baits and flaming here.
We don't want to reveal the details, but rest assured that there's a reason why the work "hacker" is in italics on the announcement. It took longer than it's expected, but it's done now and we won't revoke the decision. Also, he was warned and we removed all internal access, but he kept trying to get back access through other means, which prompted the full banning.
And Stealth - sorry for the whole delay, but it's over now, let's try to just let it slide instead of *****ing about it. And vadar_1 won't be able to read this, ok?
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What was the latest case that finally exposed him? I have heard people complaining about security problems with the internal forums for a while now, but that seemed like it was something wrong with the forums themselves.
lol, he will now become the infamous guy around here with all the jokes made on him, like what happened to some people on the VBB squadwar forum who were exposed as cheaters/hackers/etc. and whom everyone subsequently turned against... :D
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Originally posted by Shrike
Yeah, well we didn't immediately think to look where we did, and every time he stopped after we tried something we figured the problem had been solved. Plus, we didn't have any proof until recently.
so, when did you hooked up that sucka?
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Originally posted by Ten of Twelve
so, when did you hooked up that sucka?
It's a long story, and didn't involve him getting sloppy. We simply looked in places we hadn't before once we eliminated the obvious.
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You know, it figures he did something like that. I had to ignore him on all of my message clients after he threw a tantrum and spammed me to hell a month or so ago. His conduct on IRC got him banned too a few times...
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Originally posted by Shrike
We simply looked in places we hadn't before once we eliminated the obvious.
actually i recall you and Thunder not doing anything. Styxx and Sandwich did all the work
And Stealth - sorry for the whole delay, but it's over now, let's try to just let it slide instead of *****ing about it. And vadar_1 won't be able to read this, ok?
this is the happiest day of the last like 2 years of my life! why won't he be able to read this? it's on a public forum, he can view this easily, can't he? i'm not *****ing about anything, i'm happy! :D it just pisses me off that some people (someone) takes his back still
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Not to mention his attempts to make people he is an online cyber whore... :wtf:
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well then he has shown you a security whole you should thank him :D
:rolleyes: '
and i beg to differ if hes as persistant as me he WILL find a way to get back here and post stuff :) been there done that :nervous:
anyways stop the **** vadar...... its lame .... REAL lame.... do it once its cool do it twice its ok do it trice you suck ass.
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Originally posted by Stealth
actually i recall you and Thunder not doing anything. Styxx and Sandwich did all the work
Chill out... Please. ;)
Originally posted by Stealth
this is the happiest day of the last like 2 years of my life! why won't he be able to read this? it's on a public forum, he can view this easily, can't he? i'm not *****ing about anything, i'm happy! :D it just pisses me off that some people (someone) takes his back still
No, he won't be able to read this, because he no longer has any access to these forums.
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not even as a guest?
and i'm not pissed off, i'm very, very happy right now :D
Thunder and Shrike may be suspicious of everyone, but they've got their good points too
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Originally posted by Ashrak
well then he has shown you a security whole you should thank him :D
We like our security holes very well hidden deep in the darkness, thankyou.
:D
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Originally posted by Stealth
actually i recall you and Thunder not doing anything. Styxx and Sandwich did all the work
Actually I WAS trying to find out if it was him. I was checking admin logs to see if there was anything there, then Sandwich said he had an idea, so I let him handle it.
If you had been a bit more informative in your claims - posting chat logs, etc - it might have helped us figure out what he was doing sooner. As it was we spent a long time trying to find out how he had done what he did, most of that time being spent looking at the wrong problem.
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Originally posted by Ashrak
well then he has shown you a security whole you should thank him :D
Not so much a hole as an accident......
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Originally posted by Styxx
We like our security holes very well hidden deep in the darkness, thankyou.
:D
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heh k then i wount tell u bout the second and third one... eem .... :nervous: forget what i said :cool:
what you do ban his IP ? if yes then ROFL EZ to bypass :)
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actually i sent you conversation logs of other people talking about him, but never me and him talking. if you'd requested that, then i would've sent you all the chat logs (i save all of them)... i sent a few to Styxx when i talked to him a few weeks ago.
screenshots you didn't believe, so i figured a chat log would be even easier to fake, right?
EDIT: i know you tried (a little?)... Thunder didn't though, but like i said, i guess he's got his good points too.
i'm going to post all chat logs when i get home... i've saved all of them, and what he's said about some people in the community will make everyone hate him even more
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Originally posted by Ashrak
what you do ban his IP ? if yes then ROFL EZ to bypass :)
i'm sure we'll notice if he shows up again...
don't take his back please :)
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Originally posted by Stealth
actually i sent you conversation logs of other people talking about him, but never me and him talking. if you'd requested that, then i would've sent you all the chat logs (i save all of them)... i sent a few to Styxx when i talked to him a few weeks ago.
screenshots you didn't believe, so i figured a chat log would be even easier to fake, right?
Wasn't the screenshot of him in a forum he wasn't supposed to have access to? Which was a completely unrelated security matter.
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hope he saied sumting nice bout me :)
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not really... i'd say having access to forums (internal) that he's not supposed to is quite a big security problem.
i also told you he was hacking my profile, which no one believed at the beginning. he also reset my password, deleted my posts, etc.
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What I can't figure out is what he would have to gain out of hacking stuff. If it was something like a bank website, it would make more sense, but how would messing up HLP benefit him at all?
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Originally posted by Stealth
don't take his back please :)
someone has to im his umm volantary appointed lawyer :D nah i just have a different POV i was on his side of the fence and will be untill the year 2030 :D
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Originally posted by CP5670
What I can't figure out is what he would have to gain out of hacking stuff. If it was something like a bank website, it would make more sense, but how would messing up HLP benefit him at all?
1 word : FUN
iv squigelled round in stuff its the rush you get when you know your somewhere where your not suposed to be :D
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Originally posted by Stealth
not really... i'd say having access to forums (internal) that he's not supposed to is quite a big security problem.
Yes, but I just said that was a completely unrelated issue, which was caused by how the forums were arranged and not by any actual hacking. We'd been having that problem off and on for a lot longer than Vadar had been hacking, and him sneaking into other forums was not proof that he was actively hacking.
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Stealth, do stop having a go at me for not doing anything. No matter what happens around here. If the sites still more or less ok then I'll assume that the active admin can take care of it. You know full well my state of business for the recent few months - if I could devote my time to looking after HLP more then I would but if it can be dealt with by others then I'm more than happy to let them do it. Given that I have a lot of work to do. Additionally, I am not someone who knows much about hacking. I'd not know where to start looking, how to prove who had done it and so on. I'd be almost entirely useless as someone to track down a hacker - the only reason I found out who altered my avatar (not Vadar_1 btw...) was because A) I was told, B) Gamespy came through with the FTP access logs.
So, stop consistently pointing out my lack of activity. I have other things to do and am beginning to get tired of you acting like a spoilt child around here. No, don't PM an apology. No, don't say anything else here. Just take what I've said into consideration next time. Ok? Thanks.
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Ashrak, are you saying it's fun to hack?
admins... please check this punk out
EDIT: Shrike, at the time i didn't know that hacking someone's profile and hacking forums was a different issue. i thought that ANYTHING could help, so i reported both. obviously, the method he was using to hack the profiles would allow him to access internal forums too, so it really was the same issu
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umm this would probobly be a good time to close and forget before this goes to all out war .......
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Originally posted by Thunder
Stealth, do stop having a go at me for not doing anything. No matter what happens around here. If the sites still more or less ok then I'll assume that the active admin can take care of it. You know full well my state of business for the recent few months - if I could devote my time to looking after HLP more then I would but if it can be dealt with by others then I'm more than happy to let them do it. Given that I have a lot of work to do. Additionally, I am not someone who knows much about hacking. I'd not know where to start looking, how to prove who had done it and so on. I'd be almost entirely useless as someone to track down a hacker - the only reason I found out who altered my avatar (not Vadar_1 btw...) was because A) I was told, B) Gamespy came through with the FTP access logs.
So, stop consistently pointing out my lack of activity. I have other things to do and am beginning to get tired of you acting like a spoilt child around here. No, don't PM an apology. No, don't say anything else here. Just take what I've said into consideration next time. Ok? Thanks.
i've saidit before, i'll say it again:
if you're a retired admin, then why do you take part in discussions between staff members? i'm not a spoilt child, i'm just hoping that through this you'll learn a lesson: that not everyone (myself included) is out to frame other people
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Originally posted by Stealth
EDIT: Shrike, at the time i didn't know that hacking someone's profile and hacking forums was a different issue. i thought that ANYTHING could help, so i reported both. obviously, the method he was using to hack the profiles would allow him to access internal forums too, so it really was the same issu
That's where you're wrong. Other people have accessed internal forums (sometimes by accident) without needing to hack. It's not exactly something that's simple to do, but it's entirely possible to do without hacking the system. In fact, hacking the system would have meant he could look at the information in the private forums without showing up....... because he wouldn't have been going through the board.
I acknowledge that you didn't know that, and can understand what you're talking about.
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In fact, hacking the system would have meant he could look at the information in the private forums without showing up....... because he wouldn't have been going through the board.
right... i didn't think about that. you're right in this Shrike :)
Thunder... i'm done, don't bother replying.
it's a good day for me, and i don't want to ruin it.
i'm done posting here, i'm just glad vadar got what he deserved
Stealth out
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Originally posted by Stealth
Ashrak, are you saying it's fun to hack?
um have you done anything near hacking say umm lightwaved something together or built sumting with your own hands? thats the same feeling :)
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Originally posted by Stealth
Shrike, at the time i didn't know that hacking someone's profile and hacking forums was a different issue. i thought that ANYTHING could help, so i reported both. obviously, the method he was using to hack the profiles would allow him to access internal forums too, so it really was the same issu
Actually, he used two completely unrelated methods, and both of them have been removed from all users on this board.
Originally posted by Stealth
Ashrak, are you saying it's fun to hack?
Maybe he is, kids often like it a lot. Doesn't mean he's doing anything to the forums, though.
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Originally posted by Styxx
Actually, he used two completely unrelated methods, and both of them have been removed from all users on this board.
Maybe he is, kids often like it a lot. Doesn't mean he's doing anything to the forums, though.
1) yeah, Shrike brought that to my attention... that's weird that he had permission in the first place... quite a coincidence. would it have been possible for him to assign forum permissions to himeself though?
2) *shrugs*... hacking may be fun, but you can get in serious trouble for it, which is why i stay away from that kind of thing :)
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Originally posted by Stealth
1) yeah, Shrike brought that to my attention... that's weird that he had permission in the first place... quite a coincidence. would it have been possible for him to assign forum permissions to himeself though?
If he can hack your file, he can hack his own. But doing so would have made it really obvious what he had done.
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Originally posted by Stealth
if you're a retired admin, then why do you take part in discussions between staff members? i'm not a spoilt child, i'm just hoping that through this you'll learn a lesson: that not everyone (myself included) is out to frame other people
Simple, because with Setekh not around so much I'm the only other co-creator of the site. I offered to remove my staff access but I was told that wasn't necessary. Therefore for what it was worth I check the staff forum and put forth my opinion when a matter is being discussed. Would you treat me any differently if I was a non-retired admin? You shouldn't be able to say "yes".
And when you're dealing with something as serious as a possible IP banning then you really don't want to assume that the first person to come to you is necessarily the right one. Nobody assumed you were framing anyone, but it was a possibility that couldn't be ignored untill better evidence that the staff themselves had obtained. Seems kinda obvious really.
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Originally posted by Shrike
But doing so would have made it really obvious what he had done.
and i'm sure he knew that, the sneaky bastard.
oh well, it's over and the admins come through victorius :D :yes:
hey... how did you find out it was him in the end anyway? IP logs?
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but it was a possibility that couldn't be ignored untill better evidence that the staff themselves had obtained
that would bewhy you suggested banning both of us to end the 'conflict'... ok...
i said i was done on this topic, justleave it at this, ok?
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Originally posted by Stealth
hey... how did you find out it was him in the end anyway? IP logs?
Yep. And then he incriminated himself, which was the really funny part.
:lol:
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i know me 2 :)
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Originally posted by Shrike
Yep. And then he incriminated himself, which was the really funny part.
:lol:
how! how! tell us :D
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Just remember....
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/staff/shrike/kitties.jpg)
I love the expression on the kitten at the bottom. :D
Note: This was not directed at anyone. Kittens are fluffy. Yay!
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that cat's expression is the best. it's awesome
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Originally posted by Stealth
1) yeah, Shrike brought that to my attention... that's weird that he had permission in the first place... quite a coincidence. would it have been possible for him to assign forum permissions to himeself though?
2) *shrugs*... hacking may be fun, but you can get in serious trouble for it, which is why i stay away from that kind of thing :)
Nothing wrong with learning to do it, you can get a legitimate job and it helps you develop programming skills, actually hacking sites is *bad* IMO.
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Originally posted by Shrike
Kittens are fluffy. Yay!
Sig material!
Damn, you're too many times on my sig, I'll have to do something...
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actually hacking ANYTHING is bad... in my opinion.
this is a very, VERY good day for me. i'm going to go home, take it easy, discuss the webiste with Inquisitor and kasper1, and then go see a movie, eat, and go to bed. today is special :D
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stealth, read the other topic on the SCP
, and one time for all of you, it's kasperl, ending with an L! not a 1. i'm not pissed, but it kinda gets annoying never to see your name posted right.
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I think I had something to do with this. Not sure what, though. :nervous:
Should we remove him from our personal contact lists too? I'm scared he's going to exact vengeance on me...
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Originally posted by Stealth
actually hacking ANYTHING is bad... in my opinion.
this is a very, VERY good day for me. i'm going to go home, take it easy, discuss the webiste with Inquisitor and kasper1, and then go see a movie, eat, and go to bed. today is special :D
:wtf: So if i make a program and try to hack it, its bad? Or if im a Security consultant hacking the company to find loopholes that crackers can exploit, its bad?
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I guess now would be the wrong time to test my "1337 haxx0r skillz roflmao" huh?
:)
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Originally posted by Zeronet
:wtf: So if i make a program and try to hack it, its bad? Or if im a Security consultant hacking the company to find loopholes that crackers can exploit, its bad?
if you make a program and try to hack, then yes... it is bad
if you're a security consultant hacking the company to find loopholes then you're not a hacker, you're a security consultant looking for loopholes
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Originally posted by Stealth
if you make a program and try to hack, then yes... it is bad
if you're a security consultant hacking the company to find loopholes then you're not a hacker, you're a security consultant looking for loopholes
I still dont get how making a program(one that you,ve made) and trying to hack it is bad, its called improving your progamming skills by learning to make programs that are secure :p. Also security consultants are hackers, cos they "hack".
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Originally posted by Zeronet
I still dont get how making a program(one that you,ve made) and trying to hack it is bad, its called improving your progamming skills by learning to make programs that are secure :p. Also security consultants are hackers, cos they "hack".
1) make a program and try to hack the program that you have made is not bad. i thought you said make a program and hack WITH it... THAT is bad ;)
2) true they're called "hackers"... but they don't hack in a bad way.
:p
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Announcement
We've received reports of him trying to convince - and even blackmail - other forum members to give him access to the areas he was denied
Care to elaborate?
Personally, I don't care what he did. He was a troll, but it'd be hypocritical of me to say bad things in that respect. The only manner, way or form in which I dislike him is that he was dumb enough to get caught. Everything else is inconsequential to me and thus I don't care.
Also, Stealth and Zeronet: Use correct terminology or I'll hurt you.
And being good with computers does not necessitate being a hacker, just as cutting down a tree doesn't make you a carpenter. It's all about what the tree ends up doing after it's been cut down (ie, wether it crushes some kids or is made into a presidential desk). God I love metaphors.
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Originally posted by an0n
Care to elaborate?
No.
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Watcha do anyway? Get GS to IP ban him from their servers?
And I take it you checked the FTP logs to make sure you got all the stuff uploaded from his IP.
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Originally posted by an0n
Watcha do anyway? Get GS to IP ban him from their servers?
And I take it you checked the FTP logs to make sure you got all the stuff uploaded from his IP.
It doesn't matter what I did.
It doesn't matter how I did it.
All it matters is that we've done it and it's not open for discussion. If you don't like it, go find a support group or something. We provide a service for free, and we try to keep a good and friendly community. This doesn't mean it's a democracy, and it doesn't mean we have to explain our actions to anyone except Gamespy itself.
If you have any further questions, please forward them to your psychiatrist.
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ok, i'm almost sorry i even started this thread, people are getting pretty rude. i just wanted your opinions, and never thought it would become a flame thread like fs1vsfs2 in fs general. anyway, i got what i was looking for, and a lotmore i wasn't looking for (imean the flames). anyway, ijust want to say this: leave the flamethrowers UNDER the seats, where they belong. and BTW i agree on one thing, you shouldn't hack other peoples work, websites or forums. at least not without they're permition
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crackerz rock
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Congratulations. You're now a target. Please take your bullseye and run.
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I'm going to assume you meant Christmas crackers ;)
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No, he meant rednecks.
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Thats a bit below the belt dude ;)
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LOL Well this thread went downhill fast.
To answer the TOPIC:
I think the Admin did what any good admin does, they found a problem, found proof, and took care of it. Along the way they took care of a few other loop holes as well, the interal forums access hole ,... I know I'd found it awhile back by the "Who's Online" section,...clicked a thread someone was reading and POOF I was in a secured forum and didn't know it at first.
As far as how long it took,....you've gotta understand Admin on a forum of this size and larger probably have had a few "this guy hacked me....ban me now!" reports,...I don't blame them for waiting until they'd found solid proof,...screenshots and what not are too easily faked. Plus it takes a good bit of time to search through all the correct areas.
Anyways,...**** happens....this happened...it's done.
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On the asumption u IP banned Vadar, what happens when he gets a new pc or changes ISP or uses a different pc or moves house or sumin. Surely it is possibly for your IP address to be changed in at least one of those ways.
So i wouldn't bet on him not getting to view the forum
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Originally posted by Riven
On the asumption u IP banned Vadar, what happens when he gets a new pc or changes ISP or uses a different pc or moves house or sumin. Surely it is possibly for your IP address to be changed in at least one of those ways.
So i wouldn't bet on him not getting to view the forum
If they IP banned him, which i believe they did, then he can buy 2 million PCs... he'll still be IP banned as long as he uses the same ISP (Internet Service Provider). However, if in the future he changes ISPs, or moves to a different area, he'll be able to get access back again.
Even if he doesn't, someone as 'smart' as him will know about programs to mask your IP, so don't bet on him not reading anything posted here.
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thought some of you might find this liar interesting:
vadar01: so how will you get the "proof" accross
vadar01: *across
mYstIcAlSteALtH: who said anything about proof? i have none unfortunately
vadar01: well id like to see your "screenshots"
mYstIcAlSteALtH: i am still sure it's either you or someone else (i can guess who) that's screweing with my stuff
mYstIcAlSteALtH: you know the URL
mYstIcAlSteALtH: the one you told Knight_templar about before you stopped speaking to him
vadar01: i dont have it anymore...
mYstIcAlSteALtH: hmmmmmmm
mYstIcAlSteALtH: *finds URL*
vadar01: where would i put it anyways... my favorites are filled with porn
mYstIcAlSteALtH: put it anywhere!?
mYstIcAlSteALtH: i never said you'd put it anywhere
vadar01: so would i write it down then?
vadar01: i cant just "remember" strings of text
mYstIcAlSteALtH: 3dap.com/hlp/hosted/stealth/vadar/pic1.jpg
mYstIcAlSteALtH: and pic2.jpg
mYstIcAlSteALtH: uhh forget that
mYstIcAlSteALtH: wrong URL
mYstIcAlSteALtH: http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/stealth/vadar/vadar1.jpg
vadar01: Great Frollicking LLamas!
mYstIcAlSteALtH: http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/stealth/vadar/vadar2.jpg
vadar01: ah yes, look what i made a while ago
vadar01: http://dynamic4.gamespy.com/~freespace/hosted/f ullcircle/openCore/omg!!.gif
mYstIcAlSteALtH: yeah, i'm so desperate to frame you, i'll just go make a screenshot, like what you and an0n do
mYstIcAlSteALtH: unfortunately it shows in the IP log
vadar01: really? it would show up wouldn't it
vadar01: i guess that clears my name
mYstIcAlSteALtH: who said anyone's checked
mYstIcAlSteALtH: sandwich is still working on it, i know because he emails me every day
mYstIcAlSteALtH: did you make that screenshot?
mYstIcAlSteALtH: it looks pretty good
vadar01: its better then pretty good
vadar01: its perfect
vadar01: at 16x the pixels line up perfectly
vadar01: i just made that as proof how easy images can be forged
vadar01: *as how
mYstIcAlSteALtH: trying to frame me
mYstIcAlSteALtH: i see i've viewed the internal
vadar01: no, it wasn't a frame
vadar01: it was a proof of image forgery
vadar01: and how easy it could be done
vadar01: windrunner knew it was fake little boy
mYstIcAlSteALtH: i'm sure he did
mYstIcAlSteALtH: but why would i try to frame you
vadar01: spite
vadar01: stored anger
vadar01: revenge
mYstIcAlSteALtH: yeah, i'm sure
mYstIcAlSteALtH: after i tried to help you so much
vadar01: you tried yes... but you could not accomplish
vadar01: thats the reason i wouldn't let you into fc
vadar01: you could not back any of your claims
mYstIcAlSteALtH: well i'm going to bed
mYstIcAlSteALtH: do you promise (before i go) that you didn't mess with my HLP account/posts in any way
vadar01: uh sure?
mYstIcAlSteALtH: yes or no
mYstIcAlSteALtH: did you mess with my HLP account/posts in any way?
vadar01: a promise means something to do in the future
mYstIcAlSteALtH: ok forget it
mYstIcAlSteALtH: you're avoidingmy question
vadar01: i didn't "Mess with your hlp account/posts" whatever
mYstIcAlSteALtH: ok
mYstIcAlSteALtH: i apologize for any false accusations
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Originally posted by Ashrak
crackerz rock
Until it happens to you on your own pc:rolleyes:
Btw.
Congratulations you just made retard of the month your first price is a blow to the head to clear out the dust blocking rational thinking!
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Just a little clarification from Merriam-Webster.
Hacker:
3 : an expert at programming and solving problems with a computer
4 : a person who illegally gains access to and sometimes tampers with information in a computer system
:)
Not all hackers are system breakers. Definition 4 is what is usually thought of, but 3 is still valid.
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we could always point out source comments in the FS2 source to back up definition 3
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lol :)
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Stealth, quit being a prick. No offense, I like you and all, but you are being one. Go cool down for a while. Knight got **** too (on a lesser scale), but he isn't going around *****ing and acting paranoid.
Besides, if your Internet activity amounts to much at all, it's pretty much a given that someone's gonna try to hack you sooner or later. Be happy that he only dicked with your forum account, instead of (as happened to me, with another dickwad) implanting a megavirus on your comp and going through your files, being sure to toast the whole thing on his way out.
Hackers happen. Most of them, they're just normal people who happen to be a bit jerky- I remember Avenger (name right? my memory's foggy), the last banned hacker of memory, who was a damn cool guy who just knew the admins a little too well for the good of either party. Hell, I've done some pretty skanky things to people in my time online (though not quite this bad, generally just a misuse of Gator Network adware), and no doubt you will too someday. He didn't do anything that bad. He didn't even violate anything particularly private, as pretty much everything but your IP that's on this account can already be seen, and he didn't sock-puppet you. Chill.
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
Stealth, quit being a prick. No offense, I like you and all, but you are being one. Go cool down for a while. Knight got **** too (on a lesser scale), but he isn't going around *****ing and acting paranoid.
Besides, if your Internet activity amounts to much at all, it's pretty much a given that someone's gonna try to hack you sooner or later. Be happy that he only dicked with your forum account, instead of (as happened to me, with another dickwad) implanting a megavirus on your comp and going through your files, being sure to toast the whole thing on his way out.
Hackers happen. Most of them, they're just normal people who happen to be a bit jerky- I remember Avenger (name right? my memory's foggy), the last banned hacker of memory, who was a damn cool guy who just knew the admins a little too well for the good of either party. Hell, I've done some pretty skanky things to people in my time online (though not quite this bad, generally just a misuse of Gator Network adware), and no doubt you will too someday. He didn't do anything that bad. He didn't even violate anything particularly private, as pretty much everything but your IP that's on this account can already be seen, and he didn't sock-puppet you. Chill.
i'm not *****ing Stryke, and i'm "chilling"...
i dont know where you get that from
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Amendment to above:
In fact, there's nothing at all private on your account now.
(psst... your IP is showing...);)
(as is vadar's. ooooh!):D
And Ashrak: No need to play devil's advocate, if that's what you're really doing. L33t kiddies need no protection- it's too late for that as soon as they're concieved.
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
Amendment to above:
In fact, there's nothing at all private on your account now.
(psst... your IP is showing...);)
(as is vadar's. ooooh!):D
what do you mean?
:confused:
!?
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The picture with Vadar's IP. (http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/stealth/vadar/vadar2.jpg)
I dunno.
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what picture with vadar's IP?
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That's where you're wrong. Other people have accessed internal forums (sometimes by accident) without needing to hack. It's not exactly something that's simple to do, but it's entirely possible to do without hacking the system. In fact, hacking the system would have meant he could look at the information in the private forums without showing up....... because he wouldn't have been going through the board.
On that note, I've realised this morning I could get into the Mindgames and SA Private forums through the last post button if this hasn't been fixed already..
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that's because you're a hacker KT
just kidding :D ;)
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what picture with vadar's IP?
And he called Ginko Biloba! It's not just a pokemon any more..
he's talking about your screenshots
yeah me.. the little hackig ***** I am... heh
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
And he called Ginko Biloba! It's not just a pokemon any more..
he's talking about your screenshots
yeah me.. the little hackig ***** I am... heh
gah... my bad Stryke... i didn't see that you'd posted a link ;)
yeah... well anyone DESPERATE enough to see someone elses IP can just go to "who's online" :D
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Ah, one of those functions I never use...:D
Though I'm kinda curious now about which IP shows when I log on here... cool.
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i believe it was either Sandwich or CobaltStarr who originally told me how to get to "Whos online"... i stumbled upon it one day, and thought it was awesome :D
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Gah... what if I don't want my IP published to the world? :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Thunder
Gah... what if I don't want my IP published to the world? :rolleyes:
your IP isn't published to the world... cause you're always browsing "invisible" ;)
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Meh.. invisible for me.. although i just discovered whos online like a month ago.. aalong with viewing who has posted in a forum by number
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who's posted in a forum by number?
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I meant thread.. and you've posted in here 32 times.. 33 knowing that you will undoubtedly reply with "cool :D " or something.
:blah:
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
Though I'm kinda curious now about which IP shows when I log on here... cool.
*.**.***.***
:D
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
I meant thread.. and you've posted in here 32 times.. 33 knowing that you will undoubtedly reply with "cool :D " or something.
:blah:
oh... i've known about that :D
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Really?!!?!
And you didn't tell me why?!?!!?
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didn;'t tell you why what!?
i didn't know what you were talking about
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Anyone care to help him? I won't hate, my mom told me to luv all of gods creatures.. no matter how ****ed up he decided they should be. :)
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i still don't get what you're talking about KT
i'll go look further up the thread :)
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... my bad... didn't read what you'd said ;)
here's why:
Cause this thread signifies the happiest day of the last 2 years :)
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Originally posted by Stealth
... my bad... didn't read what you'd said ;)
here's why:
Cause this thread signifies the happiest day of the last 2 years :)
Must've been a non-event of a two year period :)
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yeah, or it was a very big event ... w000t
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Dude, change the record already
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what record dude?
gotta be nice to me DG... remember, i helped you with your computer-deleting-files-from-kazaa problem... and you offered me a cookie :D
j/k :)
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How bout' castrating all the yucky red x's everywhere.
They are starting to annoy me.
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heh anyone notice Vader_1 is logged in and currently viewing his control panel ? :lol:
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Vadar would like to wish you all happy holidays and he loves you dearly..
:devil:
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161.184.102.80
i see him too... isn't he supposed to be banned
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Banning is never as simple as the common posters think it is.
For one if he's got a dail up IP banning is useless completely.
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maybe he really wasn't completely banned...
i think (from the way Styxx talked) he should be though...
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From what all I read he was completely banned. What gives you the idea he wasnt?
IP Ban = Complete ban for that IP
Only other thing I could think would be if they left him "active" yet removed all access...even veiwing access to general forums.
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erm.. no .. it says kicked out
Edit: meh.. bad Idea.
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Originally posted by Ashrak
iv squigelled round in stuff its the rush you get when you know your somewhere where your not suposed to be :D
Heck with not "supposed to be", I got that rush when I was made an admin and was able to "sneak" around the OTT, Inferno, and Reciprocity internals. :D
Originally posted by Shrike
Yep. And then he incriminated himself, which was the really funny part.
:lol:
IP logs? Erm.... not that I know of, actually. But then again, I've been away for the past 3 weeks. :)
Originally posted by an0n
Care to elaborate?
He tried to get other users to get his internal accesses back. That's all the elaboration you're gonna get from me. :D
Originally posted by an0n
Personally, I don't care what he did. He was a troll, but it'd be hypocritical of me to say bad things in that respect. The only manner, way or form in which I dislike him is that he was dumb enough to get caught. Everything else is inconsequential to me and thus I don't care.
:doubt:
Originally posted by an0n
And being good with computers does not necessitate being a hacker, just as cutting down a tree doesn't make you a carpenter. It's all about what the tree ends up doing after it's been cut down (ie, wether it crushes some kids or is made into a presidential desk). God I love metaphors.
Parallelism, not metaphor! Metaphor is for a single word, parallelism is an example in parallels. :D
Originally posted by Warlock
"this guy hacked me....ban me now!
:wtf: :wtf: :wtf:
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LMFAO! Gotta love typos!
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Heck with not "supposed to be", I got that rush when I was made an admin and was able to "sneak" around the OTT, Inferno, and Reciprocity internals.
*Watches as the project leaders of OTT, Inferno, and Reciprocity make loud noises* :p
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Meh - if you don't want the admins to be able to see your stuff, go somewhere else. We can see it, and you can't stop us.:devil:
On a "nicer" note, I personally don't really have the time nor inclination to go through all the internal stuff we have, so no worries. :)
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You have this guys IP right? Do you know if its a static IP? Have you banned him from entire site through .htaccess file? If so even if someone gave him info he cldnt do squat with it through the one IP.
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"Do I look Inferno to you?"
Not complaining, just narrating :D
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nevermind
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wow.. I think Vadar got ahold of Stealth account.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
The Irony of that last one is sickining
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vadar's on #nodewar right now.. no sign of "WHY DID THEY BAN ME IM INNOCENT"....
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well according to who's online, he's also in LM Private forum.. yet he isn't..
I don't think I will bring that one up.
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he's not in the LM Internal forum
i'm talking to him (can you believe it!?) on AIM... he's testing something... to "prove" that it's impossible for him to get there
apparently, if i give him even the forum ID to any forum, he 'shows up' in it... in "whos online"
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According to the anouncements he's been banned so why is he on the board right now?
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he's not really... apparently he gets teh "could not log in"
but if he 'logs in'... and gets that 'error' message, it still shows he's logged in, and he can't view any forum... he just shows as if he is on "whos online"
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So hes still trying to get in. What a sick person.:doubt:
Wouldn't be suprised if he tried to hack in.
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nononononon
he obviously tried logging in... he knows better than to try to access forums
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What does "viewing forum" mean? The forum listing on the main page?
BTW I just noticed; both you and KT passed 3k posts in this thread. :D
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...nevermind again
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:wtf:
did you even post that first one? :p
[edit] well, I don't see him anymore...
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no... pretend i didn't
i'm thinking...
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Heh Coffee is good :D
Oh and if it only says "Viewing Forum" but no title...it's an internal forum,..I noticed that one after the Admin fixed the Who's Online security hole.
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Originally posted by CP5670
What does "viewing forum" mean? The forum listing on the main page?
BTW I just noticed; both you and KT passed 3k posts in this thread. :D
in the "who's online"
yeah, i hit 3K... before KT :)
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Hopefully he is gone for good. btw :wtf: how much time do you spend on this to get 3000 posts and become an admin (right?) in less then a a year
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Heh Stealthy's not an Admin.
A bit post happy ,...but not an Admin :D :lol:
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Originally posted by Deepblue
Hopefully he is gone for good. btw :wtf: how much time do you spend on this to get 3000 posts and become an admin (right?) in less then a a year
he's one of those supposedly productive post-a-holics :p (I've been here for 2 or 3 years and have less than him) but he's not an admin, he's a moderator guy.
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post-mort happy if he keeps posting (OD on posts) ;)
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Well whatever..
Frankly I'm glad to be rid of the ****bag. It's about time we crucified his sorry ass, I just kinda forgot about it along the ways of not talking to him for a month or so.
And yeah.. Stealth has a unique view of posting about the place.. but no matter.
(Undoubtedly, he will call me a spammer for saying that, then boast about having 300 posts before me.. go figure)
And for the rec, I was planning on announcing something special for my 3000 post (as I usually try to do) but it didn't come through at the time... :doubt:
And why isn't this topic buried by now?
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
And why isn't this topic buried by now?
Well you're contributing to it ;) (and stealth.. and deepblue... and me :p)
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*shrugs*
Well to make a prper derail-ment.. Actually I gotta hand it to Zy.. funny stuff (http://blackpeopleloveus.com/)
oh and for Vadar...
(http://www.fattonys.com/images/Upload/dude-owned.jpg)
:D
EDIT:
For all you cracka's out there... buzz diss sheeit! (http://www.atlantaga.com/ebonics.htm)
ya i'm evil... :drevil:
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
(http://www.fattonys.com/images/Upload/dude-owned.jpg)
Without doubt the worst owned picture ever.
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I think this has run it's course now... thread locked.