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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Carl on December 13, 2002, 07:13:09 pm
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You know what this means! SECOND CAPELLA!!! YAY!!!
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Oh...meh!
still looks like a good movie anyways! As long as the good guys win in the end!
(I prolly deserved to be kicked for what I said)
Well, they'll make a replacement for Data, most likely because he was one of the best characters in the movies/shows.
I wonder what the next StarTrek movie will be...
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:mad: I am soooo tempted to delete this thread wholesale..... I thought you were talking about a teaser/trailer/spoiler clip... :( I'll just change the title to help others as stupid as I am at 4 in the morning. :p
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yeah.. that kinda pissed me off.. I didn't think it'd be right there when I opened it.. :mad2:
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*Is tempted to spam forums with new threads titled 'They Killed Data' in every forum*
:devil:
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well personally i don't care if it pissed you off because it doesn't matter because they killed data.
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Originally posted by Sandwich
:mad: I am soooo tempted to delete this thread wholesale..... I thought you were talking about a teaser/trailer/spoiler clip... :( I'll just change the title to help others as stupid as I am at 4 in the morning. :p
you don't know what spoiler means then.
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Carl, that wasn't very considerate.
BTW, they won't have a Next Generation movie. This is the last one.
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Originally posted by GalacticEmperor
*Is tempted to spam forums with new threads titled 'They Killed Data' in every forum*
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Originally posted by GalacticEmperor
*Is tempted to spam forums with new threads titled 'They Killed Data' in every forum*
:devil:
*Shoots GE before he can carry out his thread*
Good ol' Type IV Phasers.... :D
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Originally posted by Unknown Target
Carl, that wasn't very considerate.
what wasn't very considerate? i put "spoiler" in the title.
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Originally posted by Unknown Target
Carl, that wasn't very considerate.
BTW, they won't have a Next Generation movie. This is the last one.
Thats a marketing slogan only. As quoted by Rick Berman numerous numerous numerous times...they will keep making them as long as there are enough fans to buy tickets to watch it.
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Originally posted by Unknown Target
BTW, they won't have a Next Generation movie. This is the last one.
Oh Goody...Now we get Voyager movies...
NOTE: In case its not obvious, I hated Voyager. Hell I've hated everything since TNG...
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The only thing i got a question on..
in the ending credits...it says
WESLEY CRUSHER!!!!
Where is he in the movie/ or mentioned in the movie??
Can someone point this out to me??
Oh..and at the end...where they obviously kill data....i wanted to jump and rip the screen down for it's complete heresy..
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How did Data die?
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Very quickly...
DO NOT READ IF YOU DON"T WANT TO KNOW>>OR SEE THE MOVIE
he fired his weapon at a beam of radiation..and boom goes the ship he was on...(no sparks fly from panels..or anything like that...just BOOM)(it left me staring at the screen in shock...!!!:wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :blah: :blah: )
Then it was :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :eek2:
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he blew up the ship that was gonna destroy the enterprise with the particle of the weekTM, and him along with it.
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Originally posted by Dan1
The only thing i got a question on..
in the ending credits...it says
WESLEY CRUSHER!!!!
Where is he in the movie/ or mentioned in the movie??
Can someone point this out to me??
:confused: :wtf: anyone?
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Originally posted by Carl
They killed Data
*pointless redundancy supressed*
I'm gonna kill someone.
I might go see this flick now. :D
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Heh, way better than Ep 1 or 2
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*quite upset at Data's death*
He was like... the BEST character in the whole thing... (he made the series bearable)
The movie had nice effects, though admittedly I thought a lot of it was cheesy.. (what was that visible green spinning radiation? gawd)
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*sigh* I enjoyed it, but was very unhappy that Data had to die. Picard didn't even get to hear him say goodbye! Agh!! But, theres always good ol' B-4 I guess... *cough*... Seeing that Federation fleet show up and blast the crap outta the Scimitar would have really made my day... *sniff* why did they have to do it (kill Data)? :(
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Well...was it a good death? (I get the feeling it wasn't...)
For example, Spock's death in STII:WOK was probably the absolute best anyone could have died. It was meaningful, it did something, it made sense, it had a purpose, Spock got to say goodbye, there was a great funeral scene, etc. etc. etc. It was done extraordinarily well.
By contrast, Kirk's death in ST:GEN was just stupid. Anticlimactic, really, and meaningless. Who cares about all the people on Veridian IV that we never meet? There's no urgency, no fight to save the ship (it's already crashed) - but Picard takes up the noble cause of saving a planet we aren't even acquainted with. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, but the movie did a terrible job of it. At least they could have given the moment a bit more urgency. I actually prefered Kirk's "death" on the Enterprise-B to the one on Veridian III - for many reasons.
Kirk's "death" on the Enterprise-B is almost like Spock's death in WOK. Kirk's death on Veridian III is like Joe Carey's death on Voyager (another meaningless and stupid death). In both cases, the writers brought the character back just to kill him. :mad: :mad: :mad:
Compare Data's death, anyone? :D
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First Reaction:
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Second Reaction:
:mad: :mad2: (http://users.bigpond.com/turnsky/images/plascannon.gif)
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I don't have the same emotional link you guys do. I think I've seen maybe 2 ST movies, and even then not the whole thing.
I saw on with Kirk and McCoy(sp?) on some ice planet as prisoners, and one with I'm assuming the "Next Generation" cast trying to get some guy to shoot his rocket into space because that was the first step towards..........something or other....... Hell I just remember it because they played "Magic Carpet Ride"
So uh, I doubt I'll be seeing this one.
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Originally posted by Goober5000
Well...was it a good death? (I get the feeling it wasn't...)
For example, Spock's death in STII:WOK was probably the absolute best anyone could have died.
Spocks death was rendered utterly meaningless because THEY BROUGHT THE ****ER BACK TO LIFE. Sacrifice without cost isn't sacrifice.
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Originally posted by Dan1
The only thing i got a question on..
in the ending credits...it says
WESLEY CRUSHER!!!!
Where is he in the movie/ or mentioned in the movie??
Can someone point this out to me??
Oh..and at the end...where they obviously kill data....i wanted to jump and rip the screen down for it's complete heresy..
he was supposed to be in it, but after they recorded it all, someone desided to cut it.
i haven't seen it yet, because i'm in holland, so i'll have to wait till 03-03 to, i'm afraid
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Whee! Now let's see. All of the admins have spamed except Setekh (not sure though). Well there is one good use of this. Encreasing post count! YAY!:D
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Spock - His death was done slowly to show that he was more human than we thought. He was upset at dying but still had enough Vulcan dignity left to comfort Kirk.
Kirk - He always knew he'd die alone, thus the somewhat unspectacular death. He died screwing over some Klingons (always a plus). And it has always been that the true heroes are not those who die for fame or to forge a legend, but those who die alone, in the darkness where no-one will ever know what they gave up for people they would never know.
Data - *watching film*
Oh, and if they don't bring him back to life, along with Kirk (and arguably Yar) he'll be one of the only main characters ever to die.
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Originally posted by Razor
Whee! Now let's see. All of the admins have spamed except Setekh (not sure though). Well there is one good use of this. Encreasing post count! YAY!:D
He already spammed a lot.
Anyway, I think killing the best characters is good in a series/movie. Why, they're the best characters so they won't die? It would be that way, there wouldn't be much excitement would it? I reckon you didn't expect that, right? I think that's a good point for the movie, and for starterk in general, if they're ready to get rid of the characters. plus it doesn't sound like a cheesy "I saved you all, I won't forget you" american heroes A1 supar saviour of the independance day say goodbye to my childs death, so it's even better.
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Originally posted by Carl
well personally i don't care if it pissed you off because it doesn't matter because they killed data.
don´t pull an asrak on us now, Carl.
stupid movie not screening in Estonia.
*pulls out KaZaA*
I don´t care.
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Now I know there's "Spoiler" in the title but honestly, a little more warning is needed. Thread edited :)
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saw it yesterday... was a good movie... as star trek movies go
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Meh, personally I'd rather see Picard or one of the other cheesier characters die, Data really provided the series and movies with a degree of humor and comedy. Picard on the other hand, well, eh.
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Boy, where do you all live? :p
Everyone knew that one of the conditions imposed by Brent Spinner to play the role of Data on this movie was that the HAD TO DIE! He's supposed to be an android and, since Brent is - as everyone else - getting only older (while androids aren't supposed to), he knew he wouldn't be able to play the part for much longer, and wanted it to be over while he could still do it. It was the only thing we knew for certain about the movie...
Now, I just have to wait to watch it.
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Meh - what about that streak of gray in All Good Things?
:p
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*engages full Trekkie mode* That was an affectation to make himself look more distinguished.
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Originally posted by Liberator
*engages full Trekkie mode* That was an affectation to make himself look more distinguished.
*detonates Genesis Device 3ft from Liberator*
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Nemesis Not Last For Patrick Stewarts
[Wed May 29, 2002 06:55PM]
TGL reports on an interview in which Patrick Stewart spoke with SFX about "Star Trek: Nemesis" and how it might not be his last:
"We've just wrapped our next movie, Nemesis, around three weeks ago. And knowing as much as I do about how to play the character now I look back at `Encounter At Farpoint', the pilot episode, and other episodes in that first season, and I see that of course there's a kind of naivete about some of the work. I think, well, they wouldn't be my choices now. But they were the right choices then."
He dismisses talk that Star Trek: Nemesis will mark his farewell to the 24th Century. "There's been a lot of gossip about this being the last Next Generation film. Those conversations are only happening in the fan community. As far as the studio is concerned, and our executive producer is concerned, and indeed as far as all of us are concerned, though we all have our own opinions and feelings,there is nothing official at all about it being the last.[/i]"
"Although," Stewart concedes, smiling, "this would be a very appropriate way to take our leave of Star Trek. Everything about the ending of this movie has a sense of closure about it, but there is also a huge opportunity for a sequel to this movie just sitting there, should it be taken up. And my feeling is that with Paramount it will totally be a matter of profits. If this film does really well, there will be another one. And that will continue, so long as they do well. The first time one does badly then, `Clang!' We shall be put out to graze."
*forces everybody to the theatre*
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meh, now I know what to say when my hardrive goes boom again....
'OMG, they killed Data!' (or was it Kenny?) :p
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i'm sorry but every movie/TV show must have a happy ending. it's not optional.
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Data's death was meaningful, saving the Eneterprise crew (and earth in the end, supposedly), but still.. ugh. I wanted to scream and break things and cry and write hate mail and.. lol, he's always been my favorite. And then he doesn't even get to say goodbye to anyone's face, just blows up. Too sad for me.. :( :( :( (I'm a cry baby if no one noticed :D ) Oh well, it was still good... *sigh* I guess... *bawls*
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:mad: Data was like the best character in Star Trek!
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Nah, Kirk, McCoy and Spock still own Data :p
But Data was the best in all the next series combined.
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Originally posted by venom2506
He already spammed a lot.
Hm...no doubt of that. Is there anything more stupid like starting a totally pointless topic? Admins (in my opinion) are here to act as an example of people with rational thinking, not like people who post a totally stupid topic because they are bored or because they want to display their power (we know how and why) while, we.... :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Razor
Hm...no doubt of that. Is there anything more stupid like starting a totally pointless topic? Admins (in my opinion) are here to act as an example of people with rational thinking, not like people who post a totally stupid topic because they are bored or because they want to display their power (we know how and why) while, we.... :rolleyes:
:rolleyes: And you never do pointless posts?
Also, admins are just normal humans, not some superhumans/demi-gods.
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Wow... somehow, I knew I shouldn't have read this thread but I did anyway.:p
Wonoder when its going to be released here in Singapore. There is quite a Star Trek fan base here.
I'm not a fan of Star Trek. I just like sci-fi movies.:D
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Originally posted by Razor
Hm...no doubt of that. Is there anything more stupid like starting a totally pointless topic? Admins (in my opinion) are here to act as an example of people with rational thinking, not like people who post a totally stupid topic because they are bored or because they want to display their power (we know how and why) while, we.... :rolleyes:
You realize you're walking on dangerous ground here, don't you? If you want to keep complaining, please go somewhere else.
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Good thing I saw it LAST NIGHT! Thing I got on teh net trying to find those cool A$$ED ships to blow up my Sovvy :devil:
Anyway I ran into a lot of sites that had reviews and there was a link to Wesley's page. Now I actually liked Wesley so I decided to take a look (though he's 30 now and hadn't been in a show for YEARS) but anyway HE said that he was in a two day shoot and then they CUT him almost totally out. Best he got was a quick flash (No dialogue) at he first 5 mins. If I had know that I would have looked harder but this was my first viewing and I just wanted to enjoy the film, not nictpick. He's either dancing on the floor or sitting at a table with the other wedding guests. At least he's in it. BUT that SUCKS cause of the way he left and they don't explain the reconciliation, with him being SURROUNDED by starfleet personel now that his character is so anti-society LOL (AKA space-hippie) :lol:
Yeah, Brent Spiner said (Data has to DIE), He wanted to die in Insurrection but Rick Berman (U know the guy who wanted Capt Sulu to be a Helmsman again for Generations - Meh) said, "Sorry Brent, kill you NEXT time!" Spiner was one of the 3 who WROTE Nemisis. That way he made damn sure Data got killed but in the way he wanted (no Kirk 4 million dollar reshoots) :rolleyes:
But (this IS the spoiler thread right?) B-4 (that's all I'm going to say) IT was so touching when data died, Picard in shock, seconds left. Instead of giving Picard a total emotinal breakdown data just got him off that ship and then said goodbye for himself. Not a sound was in the theater for like 15 mins until the end scene. We all laughed lightly as we knew that SOMEDAY DATA would return..
Now I am sure they WILL be more ST movies (as long as we got $ they want it!) ;7 BUt a pure Next Gen movie is NOT gonna happen! Too many of the crew said the're done with it! (I'd never get sick of it, hell I've been a fan for *Thinks* 26 years :lol: Now a Mixed crew of old and NEW would be feasible. Now as to a Voyager movie, that's nix cause of Admiral Janeway's cameo... UNless they want to go back in time again (Endgame was good leave it alone - now Federation has Transphasic Torpedoes and Deployable Armor -ME want!!! :drevil: ).
Now maybe an ENTERPRISE movie might be feasible in 3 or 4 years....? I'm just hoping they will have a new series set after nemesis and then movies to follow (But by then we will have half that tech :lol: ) L8tr! I'm done rambling...
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Originally posted by Dan1
The only thing i got a question on..
in the ending credits...it says
WESLEY CRUSHER!!!!
Where is he in the movie/ or mentioned in the movie??
Can someone point this out to me??
Oh..and at the end...where they obviously kill data....i wanted to jump and rip the screen down for it's complete heresy..
Wesley was in the movie, for like 30 seconds, he was sitting to the right of beverly crusher during the wedding (psst he was wearing a star fleet uniform) Why he was there is beyond me, As i remember from TNG, he ascended to another plain of being or something like that.
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The movie sort looked like this last night (replace the veritech with BIG A$$ed dreadnaught)
(http://photo.starblvd.net/Star_Dragon/2-5-2-1041742577?m=0&pg=1&ro=4&co=1)
Die Picard!!! :lol:
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Originally posted by Redfang
:rolleyes: And you never do pointless posts?
Not really. Well sometimes but not that often. Usually when we (ordinary members) post something pointless, it gets closed soon. But when the other side posts...well...a different story there.
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Originally posted by Styxx
You realize you're walking on dangerous ground here, don't you? If you want to keep complaining, please go somewhere else.
;)
Yes Styxx, I am aware. But it's the truth that is dangerous isn't it?
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Originally posted by Goober5000
Well...was it a good death?
Compare Data's death, anyone? :D
Lesse....
1. He saved the Enterprise crew from a weapon that would kill them all in 8 seconds
2. He did it selflessly, using his one last transporter device to get Picard off the Romulan ship
3. He went down with one helluva bang! :D
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Godammit!! I checked with the web site of the cinemas here. Star Trek Nemesis will not be shown here until March 2003!!!
Yet another reason to migrate I guess.:D
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Are the movies like sequals or do they have their own special storyline without continuations (ie Final Fantasy, James Bond)?
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They arent so much sequels of the previous movies, but more like sequels of the series. For example, in First Contact the main villain race were the Borg, who were introduced in the Next Generation series, so it was like a continuation of the series, if you take my meaning.
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ST movies nowadays are little more than two-hour episodes.
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I want more Borg!!
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Originally posted by Bobboau
I want more Borg!!
yeah, now that Data is dead, he cant save them anymore!
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What I would like to see in future Star Trek movies would be more intrigue, plots and ship to ship combat.
I recently watched finish Generations and I liked the part when the Klingon Bird of Prey and the Enterprise D slugged it out. That was fun to watch.
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Nah! Data's not dead. They downloaded him to B-4 before they killed him! (I sincerely apologize for that pun! :))
ST's writers need to be purged and some new faces brought in. They really have run out of ideas. All they seem to do in mix and match previous episodes and movies. I knew what was going to happen when they were copying Data's memories. Then at the end when it happened the only thing running through my mind was 'this is the same thing they did to Spock!' At least They won't be wasting a sequel for the 'Search for Data'!
What I want to know is how does a cancelled cloning experiment turned slave in a Romulan mine, manage to organize, build, and equip a badarse starship with a weapon that uses a purely theoretical energy source to take on the Federation without anyone in the Romulan empire catching wind of it. Why is his first target the Federation rather than his former Romulan slavemasters? I need some aspirin. That one gives me a headache.
5 minutes with a pencil and notepad and I could come up with a better premise than that! The movie was good. Don't get me wrong. The cast did the best they could with the story they were given. But that story really needed some more thought put to it. It could have been so much better.
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Maybe he thought after he got rid of the Federation, he could easily take on the Romulans later?
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How about "The Federation wipes the Romulans clean after Earth is ownt?"
and **** **** **** ****
Data - Dead
Riker - Titan
Troy - Raped by Shinzon... On Titan with Riker
that leaves... Geordi, Worf, Beverly and Picard?
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Hmm. Almost as emotional as What You Leave Behind.
Good film. But I think the Schimitar shoulda kicked the fleet's ass.
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Originally posted by Righteous1
Nah! Data's not dead. They downloaded him to B-4 before they killed him! (I sincerely apologize for that pun! :))
lol...I mentally replaced the 'B' with 'Babylon' and it took me a moment to realize that we're talking about a different series...
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Yeah, and those Romulan warbird wanabes got torn up faster than redshirts subduing a tribble outbreak.
I dunno.. the whole movie seemed a lot like an Episode of TNG for me.. wasn't like Generatiosn or FC.
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By the way, what is the maximum warp speed of the Enterprise E anyway? What about weapons? I know it has something called quantum torpedoes that are of a different colour from photon torpedoes.
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Originally posted by NeoHunter
By the way, what is the maximum warp speed of the Enterprise E anyway? What about weapons? I know it has something called quantum torpedoes that are of a different colour from photon torpedoes.
From what I understand Q-Torps are ZPE based weapons
The E-E also has Photon torps and Type 12 phasers
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Is it just me or did the Enterprise seem kinda weak?
I know it was fighting the Scimitar but why didn't it have it's Quantum Torps like it always has had (I.E. FC and Insurrection) ??
Another reason why this movie seemed like a 2 part episode.. :doubt:
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The Scimitar was just a bad ass ship. And you can't hit what you can't see (in the many definitoions of seeing).
Thor's Theory of the Week
Nemisis = Wrath of Khan
Points to prove it
1. Spock sacrifices himself, Data sacrificies himself.
2. Epic battle between Enterprise and One other ship.
3. Picard and Shizon(?) = Kirk and Khan
4. Enterprise gets trashed (I hate it when they do that!)
5. Killer tech that will destroy everything in the wrong hands. Genesis = Weird Radiation thing.
6. Desert planets.
7. The viewscreen. Ok, there is a shot in Nemisis that is riped right out of WoK. YOu see the Enterprise sitting directly infront of the Scimitar through the Scim's viewer. Watch WoK and you'll see the same scene through the Reliant's viewer.
QED.
Thoughts?
Oh, I liked it, after a day of pondering, but I did like it.
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I'd just like to weigh in on this thread by saying ST: Nemesis is probably the best Star Trek movie I have ever seen and I have seen all of them. If not the best, then perhaps the second best...but its right up there with First Contact, Undiscovered Country, and Wrath of Khan (which I liked less than the other two believe it or not).
I know not everyone shares my opinion, but someone else with a differing viewpoint has to speak out and tell people that its a damn good movie if you know how to enjoy movies.
For all of the media encumbered out there...if you know how to enjoy a movie and you enjoy sci-fi...Nemesis is for you. If your a sniveling movie critic who just doesn't get it...I don't know...just don't bother me :)
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Originally posted by IceFire
I'd just like to weigh in on this thread by saying ST: Nemesis is probably the best Star Trek movie I have ever seen and I have seen all of them. If not the best, then perhaps the second best...but its right up there with First Contact, Undiscovered Country, and Wrath of Khan (which I liked less than the other two believe it or not).
I know not everyone shares my opinion, but someone else with a differing viewpoint has to speak out and tell people that its a damn good movie if you know how to enjoy movies.
For all of the media encumbered out there...if you know how to enjoy a movie and you enjoy sci-fi...Nemesis is for you. If your a sniveling movie critic who just doesn't get it...I don't know...just don't bother me :)
It was a kick ass movie. You are correct. I can't wait for the DVD to be released.
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You may have to wait pretty long for the DVD version of it to be released.:)
Anyway, what is a Star Trek movie without the Enterprise getting its butt kicked from time to time?:D
By the way, I just watched finish Wrath of Khan after it was downloaded. Those phasers are like machine guns. Not the normal beam you would expect from phaser cannons.
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
Is it just me or did the Enterprise seem kinda weak?
I know it was fighting the Scimitar but why didn't it have it's Quantum Torps like it always has had (I.E. FC and Insurrection) ??
Another reason why this movie seemed like a 2 part episode.. :doubt:
Naa....in several scenes the Enterprise unleashed Quantum torpedoes...infact...the torpedo barrage that took out the cloak on the Scimitar was a crap load of Quantum torpedoes. My guess is that they are a more precious commodity and they are suplemented by standard Photons which are everywhere. In one instance I remember a launcher under the deflector fired a volley of torps followed by a volley from the quantum torpedo launcher.
The Enterprise was kicking some serious ass...the fact that the Scimitar was so much more powerful was pretty much the only reason it Enterprise was weak. Put something like a Cardasian Galor vessel in its place and it would have come apart on the second pass (and thats figuring in that the Galor was lucky :D).
Now one of those new Valdors looks like quite a match for a Sovereign class as well. Again, the fact that the Scimitar took the replacement for the D'Dedrix (sp) apart shows how powerful the Scimitar was (and probably how the Romulan commanders unintentionally manuvered into a good shot for Shinzon).
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I just saw it a couple hours ago. There literally weren't anyone else in the theater. Probably because it's Christmas night...:)
It was a good movie. Plot was thin though.
Anout the Enterpise, it's a week ship. The hull seems to take damage everytime the shilds are below 50%. That could explain why it was destroyed so many times in the previous movies and series.
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Originally posted by IceFire
Now one of those new Valdors looks like quite a match for a Sovereign class as well. Again, the fact that the Scimitar took the replacement for the D'Dedrix (sp) apart shows how powerful the Scimitar was (and probably how the Romulan commanders unintentionally manuvered into a good shot for Shinzon).
Hmm, I think the Scimitar is a one-off ship, not a replacement for the D'Deridex.
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Valdors?? What's that? Any pictures?
Pictures tella thousand words you know.:)
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The Valdore (http://ffmedia.ign.com/startrek/image/st-nemesis-valdore-large.jpg)
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those things sucked.. 6 disruptor blasts and their wings crumble off
I wanna know where the hell the Romulan fleet was.. you know.. warbirds?
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I've never seen that class of Romulan starship before...
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Originally posted by Shrike
The Valdore (http://ffmedia.ign.com/startrek/image/st-nemesis-valdore-large.jpg)
Meh, I thought those were the Scimitars. And the movie won't hit theaters here until february, it seems. :p
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Originally posted by IceFire
Naa....in several scenes the Enterprise unleashed Quantum torpedoes...infact...the torpedo barrage that took out the cloak on the Scimitar was a crap load of Quantum torpedoes. My guess is that they are a more precious commodity and they are suplemented by standard Photons which are everywhere.
play Bridge Commander! :nod:
oh yes, almost forgot
******-slaps Shrike for closing Tangboi´s christmas thread*
I couldnt say hello....
*sniff*
well, thats one good reason to redownload ICQ.
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Originally posted by Dan1
The only thing i got a question on..
in the ending credits...it says
WESLEY CRUSHER!!!!
Where is he in the movie/ or mentioned in the movie??
Can someone point this out to me??
Oh..and at the end...where they obviously kill data....i wanted to jump and rip the screen down for it's complete heresy..
the scene, that featured Wesley Crusher, was cut off from the movie. Perhaps we'll see it on the DVD.
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Originally posted by Shrike
Hmm, I think the Scimitar is a one-off ship, not a replacement for the D'Deridex.
Ooops typo. I meant Valdor. :D
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Originally posted by Tolwyn
the scene, that featured Wesley Crusher, was cut off from the movie. Perhaps we'll see it on the DVD.
he was still in the movie tho, for 3 secs. (see previous post)
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Originally posted by Sobek
he was still in the movie tho, for 3 secs. (see previous post)
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guess I have missed something ;) anyway his original scene was about 2 min long