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Title: Transport size
Post by: Grunt on December 15, 2002, 09:58:31 am
I'm currently working on a heavily armoured transport model.
I was thinking about the realistic size and the number of troops a transport should carry.
My first idea was 500 men, but I've noticed only now how big the Argo was. A 170 m-s long transport is really huge, bigger than some cruisers.

What do you think ?:eek:
Title: All depends
Post by: Star Dragon on December 15, 2002, 11:01:02 am
IS this for FS2 or a mod?

   A klingon transport carries like 50 I think.

   others I can't talk about... But basicly I think that at a minimum a transport should be able to carry 50-100 troops. for a medium. A light transport should be able to carry an apc and it's crew (or max 50people no vehicles). a Heavy transport should have 100+ people and probably 4 or 5 vehicles/crew... after that you corss the boundaries of other ship classes...
Title: Transport size
Post by: kasperl on December 15, 2002, 11:04:07 am
how many is an elesium capable of carrieng, and an argo? you could always jut calculate how many peopple go inside an touringcar, add room for lifesupport and engines, and go from there.
Title: Transport size
Post by: Tar-Palantir on December 15, 2002, 03:54:43 pm
Acording to the debrief of the first Blue Lions mission the Argo carries 'thousands'. Assuming that's no more than 1000, and since its an evac lest assume they've all been crammed in. I'd say about 400 to 500 troops. This is just using the figure from they above said mission.

Personally I'd say 100-150 troops but that's just me.
Title: Transport size
Post by: Solatar on December 15, 2002, 04:38:43 pm
I'd say 50-100 for the Elysium, and maybe 100-200 for the Argo. Since it was an evac, they probably took out all the stuff that wasn't encessary. So they could probably hold thousands.
Title: Transport size
Post by: Knight Templar on December 15, 2002, 04:41:17 pm
have you compared the sizes of the argo and elysium?
Title: Transport size
Post by: CP5670 on December 15, 2002, 05:42:45 pm
Try the information in the following thread; the same subject came up there.

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,8606.0.html
Title: Re: Transport size
Post by: beatspete on December 16, 2002, 07:17:51 am
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Originally posted by Grunt
A 170 m-s long transport is really huge, bigger than some cruisers.



It should carry a lot if it is that big, think how many people you could get standing in a 170X100 m area.  Sure, there would be other stuff in the ship, but it would easily get more than one floor on it.
I'd say a good guess is about 2000, and thats pretty conservative.
Title: Transport size
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on December 16, 2002, 08:21:34 am
But then there's the Isis, with all its tininess.
Title: Transport size
Post by: Grunt on December 16, 2002, 10:04:27 am
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Originally posted by CP5670
Try the information in the following thread; the same subject came up there.

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,8606.0.html


Yeah, the good old "search" button. :wink:
Thanks, it's useful !

But really, some transports have only the size of a a fighter,
and the Argo could not land on a football field (if it could land at all).
Considering that a much thinner airliner can take up some 200, an Argo sized wessel should easily take thousands.

I'll stay at 500 and a length of about 70-80 m.
Title: Transport size
Post by: SayWhatNow? on December 19, 2002, 09:50:49 am
I guess it jes depends on the capacity in which the ship in question is serving. Compare it to the size and compliment of the destroyers. Take that into consideration and 1000 seems reasonable. But soldiers heading into combat with the requsite equipment consume far more sapce than troops being ferried between theatres.
Title: Transport size
Post by: Grunt on December 19, 2002, 10:27:53 am
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Originally posted by SayWhatNow?
I guess it jes depends on the capacity in which the ship in question is serving. Compare it to the size and compliment of the destroyers. Take that into consideration and 1000 seems reasonable. But soldiers heading into combat with the requsite equipment consume far more sapce than troops being ferried between theatres.

Sure.
But the men/space ratio on transports can be much higher than that on a destroyer.
The later has room for huge weapon systems, hangars, repair shops and may give a more convenient space for the long term living. I mean the personnel of a destroyer spends months on the ship.
While a transport may have only a seat for each man, carrying them from ship to land or from planet to planet.
Considering the size of the FS universe and the way of travelling between systems (fast jumps and short periods between them), one can get from one end to the other within a day.
Which means that a transport has to hold only a really small space for each man and his bag, like an airplane does.
Or at least that's how I imagine a transport. :)
Title: Transport size
Post by: SayWhatNow? on December 22, 2002, 04:20:52 am
Fair enough. That makes sense :yes:
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Post by: adwight on December 24, 2002, 12:16:19 am
Nevermind this post...
Title: Transport size
Post by: Mishakuz on December 24, 2002, 03:02:59 pm
Dunno,

I always thought they would transport troops all standing in rows, may be put bars on the sides for them to hold on to. Who knows how many you could fit that way.
Title: Transport size
Post by: Grunt on December 27, 2002, 10:08:28 am
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Originally posted by Mishakuz
Dunno,

I always thought they would transport troops all standing in rows, may be put bars on the sides for them to hold on to. Who knows how many you could fit that way.


Just like on a bus he ? ;)
It may work on a ship to ship transport, or on a landing craft.
Though I wouldn't cross the half galaxy, or go through a rough landing that way. :)

The question is somewhat similar that:
How many butterflies can be carried by an open train carriage ?
The right answer is also a question:
Are they tied together ?