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Title: English
Post by: Grunt on December 15, 2002, 10:03:56 am

Please anyone !
What's the good word for the place where obsolete ships are dismantled and reusable parts removed ?
I would hate to write "ship dismantling facility". :D
I would be interested in both slang words and which can be used in official text.

Sorry but I did not find it in any dictionaries. :)

Title: English
Post by: Wesmunly on December 15, 2002, 10:33:12 am

Salvage Dock
Scrap Yard
Recycling Plant
Refit Station

Just what comes to mind right off the bat

Title: More possible terms
Post by: Star Dragon on December 15, 2002, 10:56:27 am

Decomissioning plant

   Mothball facility

Title: English
Post by: ZylonBane on December 15, 2002, 11:19:55 am

Boneyard (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=%22air+force%22+boneyard).

Title: English
Post by: vyper on December 15, 2002, 11:55:38 am

Knackers Yard

Title: English
Post by: Shrike on December 15, 2002, 12:16:18 pm

Boneyard, definately, although that's slang and generally suggests that they're being left to rot as opposed to actively dismantled.  Considering they're stripping them and cutting them, chop-shop would be amusingly innacurate but could fit pilot slang. ;)

Title: English
Post by: silverwolf on December 15, 2002, 12:48:34 pm

how about dearming facility

Title: English
Post by: Stealth on December 15, 2002, 12:58:00 pm

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Originally posted by ZylonBane
Boneyard (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=%22air+force%22+boneyard).

YES!

Where's that place (is it Arizona) in the desert, where there's hundreds and hundreds of planes just sitting in the desert, lined up, left to rot.

Title: English
Post by: Unknown Target on December 15, 2002, 01:11:14 pm

Is it legal to take the planes?
Or "salvage" them?


Ohpleaseohpleaseohpleaseohplease!!!!

Title: English
Post by: diamondgeezer on December 15, 2002, 01:23:27 pm

No. They're there so the Russians can satellite-photgraph them, and make sure the Americans aren't playing silly buggers with their declared numbers of aircraft. It's part of some dis-armament program or other. The Americans also canibalise them for spares. They also pulled an F1-11 out of the boneyard and sold it to Australia, who added it to their fleet... just glad I'm not the one flying it :nod:

Title: English
Post by: vyper on December 15, 2002, 04:09:56 pm

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Originally posted by diamondgeezer
No. They're there so the Russians can satellite-photgraph them, and make sure the Americans aren't playing silly buggers with their declared numbers of aircraft. It's part of some dis-armament program or other. The Americans also canibalise them for spares. They also pulled an F1-11 out of the boneyard and sold it to Australia, who added it to their fleet... just glad I'm not the one flying it :nod:

Typical cold war fallout there, oh well.

Title: English
Post by: Knight Templar on December 15, 2002, 04:12:03 pm

You could just call it an Old Fashoined junkyard.. make sure you get some surly on man running the place though. :nod:

Title: Re: English
Post by: mikhael on December 15, 2002, 05:57:12 pm

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Originally posted by Grunt
Please anyone !
What's the good word for the place where obsolete ships are dismantled and reusable parts removed ?
I would hate to write "ship dismantling facility". :D
I would be interested in both slang words and which can be used in official text.

Sorry but I did not find it in any dictionaries. :)

In the Navy we just called it "decom". Any ship that wasn't getting mothballed was "decommed" or "going to decom". if it was going to be completely destroyed, it was "scuttled" or "scrapped". If it was just going into storage it was "mothballed".

The suggestion for "chopshop" for ships going to decom prior to be scuttled is a good one.

Title: English
Post by: Nuclear1 on December 15, 2002, 07:24:55 pm

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Originally posted by Knight Templar
Old Fashoined junkyard

Ya beat me to it, KT :mad:

:p

Title: English
Post by: Grunt on December 16, 2002, 09:36:26 am

Wow, there's much more than I expected. :D

Don't want to be too slangish though, because most players wouldn't get it.
Boneyard sounds good to me. :)

Thanks a lot ! :yes:

Title: English
Post by: Grunt on December 16, 2002, 09:44:34 am

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Originally posted by diamondgeezer
They also pulled an F1-11 out of the boneyard and sold it to Australia, who added it to their fleet... just glad I'm not the one flying it :nod:

No problem. Lots of second hand F16s are sold to "small" countries all over the world. ;)

Dust blown.
Engines repaired.
Electronics replaced.
The rest is just aluminium, does not rot.  :)

Title: English
Post by: Nico on December 16, 2002, 10:31:16 am

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Originally posted by Shrike
Boneyard, definately, although that's slang and generally suggests that they're being left to rot as opposed to actively dismantled.  Considering they're stripping them and cutting them, chop-shop would be amusingly innacurate but could fit pilot slang. ;)

:D[warcraft peasant voice] shop chop![/warcraft peasant voice] :D

Title: English
Post by: ZylonBane on December 17, 2002, 08:16:09 am

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Originally posted by Grunt
Don't want to be too slangish though, because most players wouldn't get it.

The official name of the facility is worse than slang-- Aerospace Maintenance and Regeneration Center (www.dm.af.mil/AMARC/aerial_gallery.html). :ick

Bird's-Eye View (http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=11&x=1290&y=8892&z=12&w=2)

Title: English
Post by: Goober5000 on December 17, 2002, 11:26:21 am

Regeneration? :lol:

Title: English
Post by: Grunt on December 17, 2002, 02:39:09 pm

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Originally posted by ZylonBane
The official name of the facility is worse than slang-- Aerospace Maintenance and Regeneration Center (www.dm.af.mil/AMARC/aerial_gallery.html). :ick

Easy to translate to pilot slang: AMRC

Not worse than doing a CFG. :)

Birds' eye:
Not bad. An endless source of realistic target drones. ;)

Title: English
Post by: Stealth on December 17, 2002, 07:19:53 pm

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Originally posted by diamondgeezer
No. They're there so the Russians can satellite-photgraph them, and make sure the Americans aren't playing silly buggers with their declared numbers of aircraft. It's part of some dis-armament program or other. The Americans also canibalise them for spares. They also pulled an F1-11 out of the boneyard and sold it to Australia, who added it to their fleet... just glad I'm not the one flying it :nod:

are we talking about the right place?

these planes are OLD... no F16s and stuff there... old boeings and stuff, but most of them are apparently in very good condition (of course they won't just start, you need to fix them) but they're just sitting in the desert and no one uses them.

i also heard they're in the desert because they don't rust.

you can go take pictures of them or something, and i THINK you can buy certain ones... i'm going to do some more information on them, put some pictures up here and stuff... you guys will flip, i remember, they're all lined up, "decomissioned" aircraft... it's awesome, somewhat spooky

Title: English
Post by: Anaz on December 17, 2002, 07:38:31 pm

that microsoft terraserver thing is scary....I put my adress in, and it found it...

Title: English
Post by: karajorma on December 18, 2002, 03:20:03 am

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Originally posted by Analazon
that microsoft terraserver thing is scary....I put my adress in, and it found it...

That's cause it's a deliberate misspelling. In internal memos they refer to it as the terror server

Title: English
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on December 18, 2002, 04:54:56 am

For a ship scrap yard, think of that episode of TNG, where the Enterprise goes to some Fed yard, run by a Mr. Dockachin. He is very irritating. There are ships all over it, just drifting, or being used as floating cupboards.

Title: English
Post by: ZylonBane on December 18, 2002, 06:15:36 pm

Umm... yeah. We're trying to come up with names. Not descriptions. Naaaaaammmeeeess.

gives Petrarch a lolly

Title: English
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on December 19, 2002, 01:17:45 pm

Fine, "Vessel Dismemberment and Disfiguration facility."

Title: English
Post by: Stealth on December 19, 2002, 06:30:08 pm

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Originally posted by ZylonBane
Umm... yeah. We're trying to come up with names. Not descriptions. Naaaaaammmeeeess.

gives Petrarch a lolly

but we're done coming up with "names"...

we're going for descriptions now!


(remember, this is HLP, and HLP is known to move off-topic :) )

Title: English
Post by: Grunt on December 20, 2002, 12:40:25 am

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Originally posted by Stealth



(remember, this is HLP, and HLP is known to move off-topic :) )

Yes. And it is also a place where Freespacers just come to ... hmmm ... chat.
So come on with those scrapyard stories:D

Or may we go on with pilot jargon ?
http://vweb1.hiway.co.uk/aviation/pterms2.html

Title: English
Post by: Shrike on December 20, 2002, 12:45:01 am

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Originally posted by Stealth
(remember, this is HLP, and HLP is known to move off-topic :) )

That doesn't mean you have to help it go off-topic.