yeah, i know dozens of people that were indifferent to the books/movie, until they saw the movie...
the movie 0wns, even if you didn't like the books... they're action movies, and this one is going to be so good!
*makes use of Sandwich's spoiler tag:*
i mean... c'mon... who doesn't want to see the fire-swamps, gollum, and best of all Shelob, the massive man-eating spider, who encases her victims in webs and sucks them dry... who doesn't want to see Frodo beaten to a pulp with a whip by orcs when he's captured at the end of the TT (if they even show that in the movie... :blah: ) i mean, this is going to be almost as good if not better than the last of the trilogy
that tag 0wns Sandwich :D
No Shelob for you, my pedigree chum. Apparently it was decided that they ending couldn't be left on such a cliff hanger as the book, as those to lazy to read would only complain.
Apparently, there were people who complained because they thought the end of Fellowship was rubbish. To those people, I say "all you base are belong to Tolkien!"
And my money says Return of the King will be the best.
I really want to see Minas Morgul, and Minas Tirith will be simply beautiful, I'm certain (from the glimpse we got last time). Gollum is going to be fantastic - that guy has issues... but I'm waiting for RotK, cos that's got Mordor, and the massive battle on the Morannon. And I'm hoping like hell they do the end properly, with the scouring of the Shire and Frodo and Bilbo going off with the Elves... ye gods, I can't wait!
Originally posted by diamondgeezer
No Shelob for you, my pedigree chum. Apparently it was decided that they ending couldn't be left on such a cliff hanger as the book, as those to lazy to read would only complain.
Apparently, there were people who complained because they thought the end of Fellowship was rubbish. To those people, I say "all you base are belong to Tolkien!"
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then that'll be in the 3rd movie? mmh...
good point: they will have other scenes longer in TTT
bad point: opposite in tRotK :-/
Originally posted by diamondgeezer
And I'm hoping like hell they do the end properly, with the scouring of the Shire
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Sorry, they've already said that part won't be in the movies.
Right, I've just gotten back from seeing it (a day late, I know... I don't want to talk about it :sigh: ). The verdict:
Vea, verily! They screwed that one up worse than the last one. Here come the spoilers:
Right, what as all that about Faramir taking the hobbits to Osgiliath? Peter Jackson just plain MADE THAT UP! In doing so, he screwed up Faramir's character and made the film a good twenty minutes longer than if he'd have done it properly. Presumably, he just wanted to give Faramir more screen time, or summat.
Helm's Deep... impressive as it was, it was, for me, tainted by putting Eomer elsewhere (he made a great partnership with Aragorn in the book) and by having Theoden give up so easily. Bah.
The Ents. Why did Jackson put in the stuff with the Ents deciding against war, but then changing their minds? Again, it seems, he just needed to give Merry and Pippin more screen time. And the time they did have was a bit pants, to be honest.
Haldir and his boys - since when were the elves of Lorien at Helm's Deep? OH. MY. GOD. This competes with the whole Osgiliath bit for biggest **** up of the lot. Why not have the dunedain and Elrond's sons come to Aragorn's aid? Would have had the same effect on the plot, but now Jackson will go down as the man who killed Haldir. Boo!
And my *****ing aobut what the did to Elrond has reached new heights. There is no way he would have tried to keep Arwen with him like that. Elrond has the gift of foresight - why doesn't he forsee that Aragorn will win? Gah, they've screwed Elrond up completely, so they have.
All that bollocks with Aragorn falling off the cliff and washing up down the river. Ye gods, that was a load of pointless drivel. Which brings me back to Elrond. He's portrayed like a troubled, single father whose daughter has chosen a boyfriend from the wrong side of town. He's going to look like a right twit when Aragorn is crowned king and marries Arwen, isn't he?
Why did Jackson feel he should have Legolas tell Aragorn that the Rohirrim would all die at Helm's Deep? I understand that he needed to drop stuff (like the Old Forest), but why did he add stuff like that?
Oh... and shouldn't the Haradrim have been black or arabic?
And now, the good stuff:
Gollum. Very well done, especially the arguments he has with himself. I liked the way the CGI character can look funny or pitiable one moment, but in a flash he's become a snarling beast, ready to kill the hobbits. Nicely.
Mumakil! And wargs! Woo!
Beautiful scenery and what have you... as always...
Er... that's about it, really :nervous:... oh well :sigh: