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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Stealth on December 16, 2002, 09:06:43 pm
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Dune 1:
(http://www.arrakis.co.uk/jpg/duneamega.jpg)(http://www.arrakis.co.uk/jpg/dunecasefront.jpg)
Dune 2:
(http://www.arrakis.co.uk/jpg/d2logo.jpg)
Dune 2000:
(http://www.arrakis.co.uk/jpg/dn2000.jpg)(http://www.arrakis.co.uk/jpg/dune2k.jpg)
Dune Emperor: Battle for Dune
(http://www.arrakis.co.uk/jpg/emporer.jpg)
I vote Dune 1... the original, the one that spawned so many other 'rpg's... such as warcraft, command and conquer, starcraft, age of empires, etc... where a person controls other troops, villagers, etc. and can tell them to mine minerals, attack, build, etc.
I apparently have the "Amiga" version of Dune 1
This guy's Dune 1 site is awesome... downloads, info, everything you need:
http://www.terravista.pt/nazare/4347/dune.html
These are the Dune 1 official MP3s from the "Spice Opera" album which is worth hundreds of dollars, it's incredibly rare... only a few of these MP3s were featured in-game, and they were in MIDI form. My favorite are Chani's Eyes and Dune Theme and various others:
http://www.swooh.com/lorenzo/dune/
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I see you forgot Tiberian Dawn.
The first book is good so far, but i've never played any of the games. Music is a little techno-ie.
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
I see you forgot Tiberian Dawn.
The first book is good so far, but i've never played any of the games. Music is a little techno-ie.
Music is meant for in-game... if you play the game the music's very fitting :nod: :)
Ahhh yes, the "Command and Conquer" series... i'll edit my post to include that :D
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Weird. Just noticed there's a copy of Dune 1 standing right here, and yet I've never bothered to install it. Oh well, what can I do.
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Send it to me?;7
Pfeh, with games, give me the old **** any day. Particularly now that I've got my old-**** computer up and running.
Played Dune II once, in a cheap BW takeoff mode. Loved it. Got Dune2k, 'cos it was cheaper and easier than getting a copy of 2, and I figured it was about the same. It was pretty much like every other Westwood game that way. Ah well- at least I get to run over Sardukar in tanks.
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
Send it to me?;7
Sure, just give me your street adress so I can mail it. [insert evil smilie here]
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Serious? Cool!
I'll PM you.
Where you live, though? Shipping costs run up...
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hmmm
perhaps I'll buy Emperor sometime.. I think i've seen it for $10 - $20 bucks at best buy. Gotta Fit in with the crowd!!
unless somebody wants to send me their copy too :D
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
Serious? Cool!
I'll PM you.
Where you live, though? Shipping costs run up...
Sorry, I don't know how to use PMs. Post your full adress and telephone number here, please.
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...And telephone number?
...Don't know how to use PMs?
I don't know if you're kidding, but I think I'll have to eat you just to be safe anyhow.
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wow.. this is ... entertaining at the least..
I was going to point out the Private messaging system and give a fully patronizing explaination as to how to use it, but I want to see where this goes.
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Dune 2 was the first computer game i ever played, back when i barely knew they existed ;)
I like emperor better than Dune 2/2k though. More variety, makes you think a little more...
Dune 2k was a nice upgrade to 2, but it couldn't hold my interest enough for me to even finish the campaign...
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only played dune2. dune1, I just sat there and watched my bro play it, it was more entertaining just watching at it than playing it it seems ( well, a cryo game, who would expect anything else? )
Dune2 was cool, but would have been better if there wasn't the unavoidable spoce shortage in the end of the mission, that forced you to attack before you're ready ( and resulted in loading the mission again and trying to attack with 5 more tanks, then, etc, etc, etc )
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dune2. but only considerating the other games that were out at the same time. dune2k didn't have the same feeling at all.
dune1 wasn't made by westwood, and isn't an RTS either... however, it's a little more true to the book(s), I must say (that is, no ordos)...
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Dune 2, without a doubt. This game was to RTS what Doom was to FPS. :nod:
Dune2 was cool, but would have been better if there wasn't the unavoidable spoce shortage in the end of the mission, that forced you to attack before you're ready ( and resulted in loading the mission again and trying to attack with 5 more tanks, then, etc, etc, etc )
eh? When I played there was a crapload of spice on the map for the last missions for all three sides, enough to go well beyond the unit limit. (btw it is actually possible to capture enemy stuff in this, so I had a combination of devastators and sonic tanks while playing harkonnen :D)
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wichone of the dune games was the one where u only could move 1 unit at a time ?
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Originally posted by Levyathan
Sure, just give me your street adress so I can mail it. [insert evil smilie here]
Hey, that's MY game!
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Originally posted by Fetty
wichone of the dune games was the one where u only could move 1 unit at a time ?
that'd be dune2.
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Originally posted by CP5670
Dune 2, without a doubt. This game was to RTS what Doom was to FPS. :nod:
eh? When I played there was a crapload of spice on the map for the last missions for all three sides, enough to go well beyond the unit limit. (btw it is actually possible to capture enemy stuff in this, so I had a combination of devastators and sonic tanks while playing harkonnen :D)
But I like to put missile turrets everywhere :p
I don't think you can capture units with harkonen, that'd be a bit unfair to the ordos which had that as their special weapon... I did have devastators and sonic tanks with ordos tho :p
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I voted Emperor because I feel the graphics and gameplay beats the rest hands down. I don't have the patience to play Dune. Dune 2 was a hit at its time but having to select units one by one was very tedious. Also, missle turrets around the perimeter of your base and nothing, not even sandworms can survive.
Dune 2000 to me was jjust Dune 2 but with slightly better graphics and the ability to select multiple units a la Command & Conquer. But somehow, I feel the rocks and the sand seem to blend too much until it is kind of the same colour.
Emperor is best because they allow you to ally with various factions to boast your armies. New weapons, new units and the ability to recieve reinforcements. Reminds me of Risk board game.
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I've only played Dune 2 and Dune 2000. And, I've not played Dune 2 for years, but I've played 2k just a year ago.
So, my option might be biased, but I'd say 2k. I can't remember the Dune 2 too well, anyway.
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Also voted emperor.
I just don't think the original Dune is that good.
Dune 2 is hard, because the graphics maybe. Dune 2k is just boring and aged...
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Originally posted by Styxx
Hey, that's MY game!
Ah, now it's all ruined! He was about to post his telephone number and his street adress in a public forum.
See, this bolding thing can get annoying sometimes.
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Originally posted by Levyathan
Ah, now it's all ruined! He was about to post his telephone number and his street adress in a public forum.
See, this bolding thing can get annoying sometimes.
You'll have another chance... Someday. ;)
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Of the Dune games I'd have to say Emperor seeing it's the only one I've played... :p But in terms of graphcis/units it seems to beat the rest anyway.
However Emperor has incredibly shoddy pathfinding AI...
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Originally posted by Kamikaze
Of the Dune games I'd have to say Emperor seeing it's the only one I've played... :p But in terms of graphcis/units it seems to beat the rest anyway.
However Emperor has incredibly shoddy pathfinding AI...
they all had...almost
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Well, think of what the games were at their time. Sure, you couldn't select multiple units in Dune 2 and the AI was an idiot, but at the time nobody gave a second thought to that since you could do so much other stuff that nobody had seen before. (same thing like in Doom; you couldn't look up or down, but nobody cared about that back then :D) Although regarding the AI, even now after a decade, the game world still has not come very far... :p
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Originally posted by Styxx
Hey, that's MY game!
sibling rivalry ;)
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Emperor was good, but got real old real fast.
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Dune 1 0wned... anyone listen to the music?
http://swooh.com/lorenzo/dune/
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Originally posted by CP5670
Dune 2, without a doubt. This game was to RTS what Doom was to FPS. :nod:
Eh? No. Dune 2 was to RTS what Wolfenstien was to FPS... C&C: Tib. Dawn was the Doom equivalent.
I voted Emperor: BFD (Note: It's not Dune Emperor - it's just plain Emperor), because I love having 3 different and varied sides. The extra alliances just make it even cooler.
But I must say that Dune 2 was probably the game I played the most - ever. Originally on a 386SX 25mhz laptop with a greyscale screen (no color!!), and then on a full color, 14" ViewSonic connected to a 486DX2-66! Wow, that was sooooo awesome! :nod:
*looks at Levyathan, looks at Styxx, and then back at Levyathan*
Hmm, I wonder what would happen if I IP banned Levyathan... :devil: :drevil:
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Originally posted by Sandwich
(Note: It's not Dune Emperor - it's just plain Emperor)
I thought so... but it's still a "Dune" game... and on the 'poll' i didn't want to have all the "Dune" games starting with "Dune" except for Emperor... cause that would've looked weird :)
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Originally posted by Sandwich
*looks at Levyathan, looks at Styxx, and then back at Levyathan*
Hmm, I wonder what would happen if I IP banned Levyathan... :devil: :drevil:
Erm... my brother wouldn't be able to access the forums anymore? :p
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Originally posted by Stealth
Dune 1 0wned... anyone listen to the music?
http://swooh.com/lorenzo/dune/
Very cool. I can download them and replace the wavs I have from the amiga version (assuming the PC music is better of course :) )
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Originally posted by Styxx
Erm... my brother wouldn't be able to access the forums anymore? :p
Right, but would you?
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Originally posted by Sandwich
Eh? No. Dune 2 was to RTS what Wolfenstien was to FPS... C&C: Tib. Dawn was the Doom equivalent.[/size]
no it's not coz wolfenstein was actually the first FPS.
Dune2 is not the first RTS, there was siege before, and even before one console game ( tho I don't even want to imagine a RTS on a console of that "era"... )
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Originally posted by Stealth
Dune 1 0wned... anyone listen to the music?
http://swooh.com/lorenzo/dune/
yes, I do. cryogenia is my fav of them.
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they would have been great w/o those stupid techno-crap lyrics.
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Originally posted by Sandwich
Hmm, I wonder what would happen if I IP banned Levyathan... :devil: :drevil:
I'd create another login from a friend's house and then proceed to post every single Machina Terra file I have on this HD. I don't know how that'd help it, but Styxx wouldn't be very happy.
And then I'd move to Hong Kong.
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Originally posted by Levyathan
I'd create another login from a friend's house and then proceed to post every single Machina Terra file I have on this HD. I don't know how that'd help it, but Styxx wouldn't be very happy.
And then I'd move to Hong Kong.
Oh great. Now he'll ban you. :p
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Originally posted by venom2506
no it's not coz wolfenstein was actually the first FPS.
Dune2 is not the first RTS, there was siege before, and even before one console game ( tho I don't even want to imagine a RTS on a console of that "era"... )
I'm not talking about "who was first", I'm talking about the impact each game had on gamers' interest in that particular genre. Wolfenstein introduced the FPS genre and was a hit because of it's originality; Doom popularized the genre and added a few crucial innovations.
Same with the Dune 2 / C&C games: Dune 2 was the game that intoduced RTS gaming to the masses, and C&C carried that banner further on with innovative features such as unit grouping, controllable air units, and multi-selections.
Originally posted by Styxx
Oh great. Now he'll ban you. :p
No, I was just wondering if you two shared the same IP or not.... ;7 :drevil:
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Originally posted by Sandwich
I'm not talking about "who was first", I'm talking about the impact each game had on gamers' interest in that particular genre. Wolfenstein introduced the FPS genre and was a hit because of it's originality; Doom popularized the genre and added a few crucial innovations.
Same with the Dune 2 / C&C games: Dune 2 was the game that intoduced RTS gaming to the masses, and C&C carried that banner further on with innovative features such as unit grouping, controllable air units, and multi-selections.
ah. the way it was said, it was easy to understand "first one done".
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Originally posted by Sandwich
No, I was just wondering if you two shared the same IP or not.... ;7 :drevil:
Most of the time, no. We live in different cities. But I'm often at my mom's place on the weekends (where my brother lives), and sometimes I check HLP through his comp.
:p
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Originally posted by Styxx
Most of the time, no. We live in different cities. But I'm often at my mom's place on the weekends (where my brother lives), and sometimes I check HLP through his comp.
:p
Ahh.
Drat!
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Levythan: Maybe THOUGHT you were about to.
Sandwich: Go ahead, ban him, just for insulting my intelligence.;)
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Originally posted by venom2506
they would have been great w/o those stupid techno-crap lyrics.
yeah, i agree 100%
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
Levythan: Maybe THOUGHT you were about to.
So you're telling me this post of yours wasn't serious?
Originally posted by Stryke 9
Serious? Cool!
I'll PM you.
Where you live, though? Shipping costs run up...
It seems to me that just then you realized my intention, as this post shows:
Originally posted by Stryke 9
I don't know if you're kidding, but I think I'll have to eat you just to be safe anyhow.
... But who cares, anyway.
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No, you had me until you started going on about not knowing how to use PMs. I've had impromptu trades and **** happen to me before- almost got MOO and X-COM for a copy of BroodWar once... not a shabby trade, if you ask me.
Trick was, of course, the dude lived in Norway, and neither of us had cash for shipping.:D
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I have not had that happen with games but have done it with lego parts several times. :D
Hmm, I wonder what would happen if I IP banned Levyathan...
Do it! do it! :D
Eh? No. Dune 2 was to RTS what Wolfenstien was to FPS... C&C: Tib. Dawn was the Doom equivalent.
Yeah, that sounds like a better comparison when you take into account the popularity, but then what would be the RTS equivalent of Quake? ;)
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
No, you had me until you started going on about not knowing how to use PMs.
Exactly, as that last quote shows.
Originally posted by CP5670
Do it! do it! :D
Oh, you'd like that, wouldn't you. :p
Something tells me this thread is about to get so very closed.
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Originally posted by CP5670
Yeah, that sounds like a better comparison when you take into account the popularity, but then what would be the RTS equivalent of Quake? ;)
I haven't the foggiest - never played it. :p
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Starcraft?
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True true.
Then I guess the RTS equivalent of Quake 2 would be Warcraft 3 then.:D
But back to the topic on Dune games.
I think the one thing Emperor suffers from is the ease with which buildings can be destroyed.
And the lack of very beautiful actresses in skimpy outfits. A very good example would be the one Carrie Fisher a.k.a Leia wore in Return of the Jedi.:p
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Originally posted by NeoHunter
And the lack of very beautiful actresses in skimpy outfits. A very good example would be the one Carrie Fisher a.k.a Leia wore in Return of the Jedi.:p
Yeah but the world in general suffers from a lack of those. I mean I look out of my window and I can`t even see one!
As far as the original topic goes I`ve played Dune 1 & 2 a lot and dune 2000 briefly.
I think dune 1 was a little to easy but had a great plotline and was fun to play. As for dune 2 I absolutely loved it.
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Seriously speaking, I would like to see a next Dune game in the same format as Dune 1. But this time, the story would be set in the aftermath of Emperor. Alliances can be made and there are territories. It would be something like Rommance of the Three Kingdoms line of game series. It would be fun and addictive I think.:)
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Originally posted by NeoHunter
Seriously speaking, I would like to see a next Dune game in the same format as Dune 1. But this time, the story would be set in the aftermath of Emperor. Alliances can be made and there are territories. It would be something like Rommance of the Three Kingdoms line of game series. It would be fun and addictive I think.:)
heh... if there was a sequel, I would want it to follow the books. Like the story in Dune Messiah or something. But that's a fairly short book. Children of Dune'd do fine too.
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Did anybody remember thhe mission in Dune 2 where you suddenly had hordes of Sardukars dropping behind your base and then you went "WTF?!"?
I was totally caught by surprise by that one because all my turrets were facing the other side.:D
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Originally posted by NeoHunter
Did anybody remember thhe mission in Dune 2 where you suddenly had hordes of Sardukars dropping behind your base and then you went "WTF?!"?
I was totally caught by surprise by that one because all my turrets were facing the other side.:D
UNfortunately for them I happened to have my harvester in the area at the time. *Squish*
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Better for me. Unfortunately for them, I had a whole lot of tanks so I either blasted them to oblivion or squished them into the Arrakian sand.:D
In Emperor, I think the Sardukar are uncrushable is it? And also, why am I unable to make veteran units return to the factory or barracks?
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Just had a thought strike me... *rubs bump on forehead*... wouldn't a SW: EP II MOD for Emperor be cool? It's the perfect engine! :p
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Cool indeed.
I was working with Dune MOD for Freespace (don't ask) but...drat, I don't even remember what happened with it ;)
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that would be awesome
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Originally posted by Sandwich
Just had a thought strike me... *rubs bump on forehead*... wouldn't a SW: EP II MOD for Emperor be cool? It's the perfect engine! :p
Well, I believe they have a game like that called Battlegrounds: Clone wars on shelves now...